Trump says Immigrants are the problem, How about greedy Real Estate Developers like him ?

What a argument there Op: On one hand you have individuals such as Trump paying taxes, and on the other millions using them!

Jeez... please don't take that argument say to a Political Science class or you will be eaten by lions and spit out like a gazelle!


Top 5 worst arguments ever!~

a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Oh, I know that they are completely separate issues; one being better phrased with the word "Illegal" in front of it, as another suggested.

I just got a little carried away and found myself in the midst of a rant with that one.

a reply to: olaru12

Pass it on to family members, use it to hunt and camp on, build a small cabin, literally anything except turn it into a strip mall or it's equivalent.

My family has acreage here in Michigan, had it for some time. We would never in a million years think of developing it.... Much better looking than a subdivision full of idiots.

Nah, immigrants are the problem.

a reply to: dothedew

I totally get that feeling. The UK is even worse. They sell off stuff to foreign investors before offering it to the public. To China and Russia mainly....for money laundering purposes no less.

originally posted by: thedigirati
everytime hear a complaint like this I think, "Gee this poor guy is working 65 hours a week and can't make ends meet"
You ARE working 65-70 hours a week aren't you? If you aren't workin that much you are just lazy. Anyone can work 40 hours heck that's easy, but if you are only working 40 hours a week and bitchin, you aint even trying.

So because you are unwilling to work more than 40 hours a week and other folks are willing to work more than 40 hours a week it's their fault they are rich, cause, reasons.

President Trump and many other rich folks didn't get there by working 40 hours a week. the problem is YOU ARE LAZY!

this is not an illegal immigrant problem, it's a problem of effort, you want a paycheck for 80 hours a week but only work 20 hours.

Don't complain because other folks are willing to work more than you!

My hours worked last few weeks. Granted I was making OT on anything past 40, my take home pay averaged about $3,000 a week after taxes, do the math. Earn it while you can is my motto.

Week ending 4/7/19 = 91 hours
Week ending 3/31/19 = 81.5 hours
Week ending 3/23/19 = 88 hours
Week ending 3/17/19 = 78 hours

originally posted by: dothedew
Look...... As someone working in the bankruptcy field, it's common knowledge that real estate developers are the scum of the earth, worthless pieces of little dog turds that represent everything about the human civilization that needs to be flushed down the toilet while their family watches.

Look, I understand that may have been a little harsh, but these a$$holes buy up all of the available vacant land as fast as they can and turn it all into condos, subdivisions and apartments as fast as they can; they don't want to build any actual HOMES, that would be too "buyer friendly"...... no...... they want to stuff everyone in condos that sell for twice the price as an actual home, where they can collect HOA fees of hundreds of dollars per month for doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and foreclose on people and kick them out of their $200k Condos over $1500 in missed HOA payments, and do the same with their $800k sub homes with the same HOA fees.... only difference is that they all remain empty because nobody can afford them.... Then, the housing market goes up because of these little spawns of Satan because of the high listing prices where everyone else gets drowned out of the market when they're looking to buy.

Should I even go into the homes that go for sale that people can actually afford which are bought up as soon as they hit the market, have 10k worth of remodeling and cleanup done, and the flipped within weeks for at least 50-60k more than they were listed at the previous month (which again, drive up markets and sit vacantly since nobody can afford them)?

All of this eventually and inevitably leading to the housing market bubble-pop (and being one of the primary factors in our crashing market, second only to predatory mortgage/equity lending).

Look, I'm all against illegal immigration, but I would take 100 illegals in my town before I'd let one scumbag, POS, Satans' little helper real estate developer come in.

its market driven. If people didn't want to be crammed into "lifestyle communities" (condo's built around various retail outlets) developers wouldn't build them.

I work for a developer. He does hotels, restaurants, and other businesses.

That said, being from West Texas I am all too familiar with investors preferring to build high end homes. Something you should remember: a businessman has no moral obligation to make less off their investment by building low income/moderate income housing. Those types of projects come about from local governments subsidizing the project to encourage development. If the local government isn't encouraging the types of homes the community needs through tax cuts and subsidies...then they aren't doing their job. They are the ones with a moral obligation.

originally posted by: TheConstruKctionofLight

So subsidized housing seams to get a pass; what about those who scream " we don't want universal health care - its communism "

Its the same old thing...as long as it is cheap or free to me I want it, but if I need to pay for it then it sucks... I keep saying be careful what you wish for... As to the woman on the streets, why was she there? Was it a greedy landlord that put her rent outside what she could pay and so threw her on the streets, or does she have mental problems and can't afford ANY rent? Who knows...

The be careful part is that when the Government takes over you are now just a number associated with acceptable loss as they manage the masses as the thought of the individual disappears. 200 to 300 sq ft per family and controlled diet that everyone eats in a cafeteria style environment is what the OP seems to want to keep the vampires away...lol

originally posted by: dothedew
a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

Oh, I know that they are completely separate issues; one being better phrased with the word "Illegal" in front of it, as another suggested.

I just got a little carried away and found myself in the midst of a rant with that one.

Fair enough

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan

If you enjoy urban life, thank a developer for putting in the effort to give you your urban life. And if you think displacing poor people to build commerce is bad...take that up with your local governments.

So in Portland they saw in the last 5 years or so huge rent increases. The State set into place a limit of 7% per year and eviction protection to prevent landlord from bypassing the 7% with uncalled for evictions. To offset this the State also needs to motivate builders to come here to build affordable housing for Families in the 50 to 70k range. To do this they need incentives such as tax relief for XX years and rent offset paid for by state taxes.

The biggest issue with the rent increase, building million dollar houses, existing housing values jumping like crazy etc is the flood of CA residence that come here after selling their 1.5 million dollar 2300 sq ft crappy house and they need to dump the capital gains into their next house, so if they come the builders will build and people will sell their existing houses at un-affordable levels for the local population.

originally posted by: lakenheath24
a reply to: AlienView

Trump...and me....have a problem with ILLEGAL immigrants. Not immigrants. Immigrants welcome. Illegal immigrants not. And i am not sure what either has to do with property development.

I agree with this, except I would hope immigrants are coming here because they want to be an American. I'd rather not have people coming that are fleeing a country like Venezuela, just to vote for AOC.

a reply to: dothedew

"Look...... As someone working in the bankruptcy field, it's common knowledge that real estate developers are the scum of the earth, worthless pieces of little dog turds that represent everything about the human civilization that needs to be flushed down the toilet while their family watches.

Look, I understand that may have been a little harsh, but these a$$holes buy up all of the available vacant land as fast as they can and turn it all into condos, subdivisions and apartments as fast as they can; they don't want to build any actual HOMES, that would be too "buyer friendly"...... no...... they want to stuff everyone in condos that sell for twice the price as an actual home, where they can collect HOA fees of hundreds of dollars per month for doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING and foreclose on people and kick them out of their $200k Condos over $1500 in missed HOA payments, and do the same with their $800k sub homes with the same HOA fees.... only difference is that they all remain empty because nobody can afford them.... Then, the housing market goes up because of these little spawns of Satan because of the high listing prices where everyone else gets drowned out of the market when they're looking to buy.

Should I even go into the homes that go for sale that people can actually afford which are bought up as soon as they hit the market, have 10k worth of remodeling and cleanup done, and the flipped within weeks for at least 50-60k more than they were listed at the previous month (which again, drive up markets and sit vacantly since nobody can afford them)?

All of this eventually and inevitably leading to the housing market bubble-pop (and being one of the primary factors in our crashing market, second only to predatory mortgage/equity lending).

Look, I'm all against illegal immigration, but I would take 100 illegals in my town before I'd let one scumbag, POS, Satans' little helper real estate developer come in".


I guess you didn't vote for Trump - I did, believed everything he said and thought the wall was only a metaphor
- No, in fact many of the things he said, like not cutting back benefits for lower income Ameicans were not true
and he seriously thinks he can close down borders and shut out the World's problems.

Maybe he doen't realize that the US is not only the predominant World power and often its enforcer and what
is happening in South America could, and will happen here if the situation isn't faced head on.
Walls can be tunneled under, flown over and bypassed in many ways - Trump was supposed to be a great businessman
- Still waiting for a business solution to problems that can not be swept under the rug - or walled off so as to
pretend they don't exist.

In my city there used to be many nicely run trailer and mobile home parks - Many of these places catered to lower
income people - Often Real Estate Demons buy them up - And then just leave them as vacant property, sometimes
for years.

I agree with what you said about real estate hustlers - Low lifes with a license to steal - And major contributors
to homelessness.

a reply to: AlienView

So you mean to tell me that someone came to your door, blamed trump for building a casino that caused them to be homeless 35 years ago, has been homeless for 35 years, and hasn’t died or fixed their life yet?

Then you end your post with predictable leftist rhetoric, praising illegal immigrants and attacking christians.

Sounds like a convenient story with a hard turn into commie-ville.

Yes millions of elementary school intelligence adults who dont speak English are less of a problem then capitalist who bring in millions in tax revenue.

Immigrants send cash out of the country, capitalist try and bring it in

Immigrants have led to an increase ms13 gang violence

Immigrants have over filled schools making schools bring in portable trailer park classrooms

Some immigrants are known for having more children then they could ever care for or what society could handle. Over populates, causing lack of jobs. Lack of resources

There are more consequences then benefits

The only benefit is showing compassionate to those less fortunate.

Not a good enough reason to destroy the moral fabric of a country

All those words just to conflate illegal immigrants with all immigrants.

Sad low energy attempt to slander the president.

a reply to: scolai

He doesnt seem to care that Chinese millionaire's and corporate entities have been buying up America for the last 20 years. Just the American developers get him riled up.

Thats because he's just pushing propaganda. He's not expressing or relating the genuine opinions of a pauper living in the slums of America. That's just a story, a vehicle to deliver his propaganda.

Typical sniveling leftist. No facts, only insults no substance and you're wrong to boot!

But hey you're the party of moral right. Let alone the non standards you apply to yourselves.
a reply to: AlienView

everyday illegals all over the country, murder, rape, steal in statistically huge numbers - like when 4% of the population commits 40% of the murder - I've never known a real estate developer to do these things at all let alone in statistically significant numbers.

Here's your reality check

www.lapdonline.org...

You're a fool and you know it. Why don't you just admit it. You hate Trump for no apparent reason other than to pick up on progressive dates. It's over, left leaner's like yourself know everything was a lie and by speaking in lies, people like you participated in treason against the Citizens of the United States of America. We know who you are and all liberal comments will be remembered, at least long enough till you open your veins because you can't think for yourself and have no where to go. An entire generation wasted. Enjoy.

As one of my favorite, and usually Conservative, news commentators, Paul Harvey used to say - And here is the
rest of the story:

How the Republican Party went from Lincoln to Trump


Granted Trump has mastered the game of politics well - And added the USA to his portfolio of assets.

But a statesman? - Ronald Reagan could pass as a statesman and even some on the left saw him that way
- The only real similarity between Trump and Reagan though - Is like Reagan - Trump is also lucky

And being born with a silver spoon in your mouth and millions of assets backing you from birth, helps doesn't it ?

But whatever is fair is all that counts, right?

But politics and laissez faire capitalism is like nature isn't it? Only the strong survive, that's Evolution isn't it?

So why is the so called Christian Right so supporiive of Republicans? - I'll say it again, even Jesus hated Hypocrites !

"The Republican Party will become the party of Healthcare"
- Donald Trump