ICE arrests 280 at Texas firm, biggest immigration bust in a decade

When I lived outside Atlanta I was speaking with an self employed independent painting contractor in 2016. He said he used to be able to quote with his labor at $25 per hour which would cover his cost of Health Care for him and his family. He, in 2016 said that he was only able to get the "illegal" immigrant going rate of $15 per hour. I asked him how they can get paid and he said that for $2000 they go into downtown Atlanta and buy a FAKE Social Security Card with a live SS number. And that it had been going on for years.

So while I am typing i just got a call from 504-[SNIP]. A ROBO just left a message that I committed Social Security Fraud and that if I dint call that number they will be coming from me. Well another one for the FEDS do not call list!

So where was James Comey and his FBI straight shooters? I also was told that later that year ICE did a sweep through Georgia and several other states so maybe they shut down that SS operation.

Just thinking about AOC. Is she owned by the Cabal? Hay Hay



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Is the company going to be charged with 280 counts of hiring illegal immigrants?

Of course not. Because that would actually discourage these companies from hiring them which would actually curb illegal immigration.

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a reply to: Xcalibur254


Whatever happened to ole Jeff Sessions? Heard hes working in a soup kitchen in BAMA with Roy Manure

a reply to: Xcalibur254

And they should. The one caveat to that is that they need to have a system in place that illegals can not easily manipulate to make businesses who do look get deceived.

280 people arrested. How many of them were

Owners of the business
Managers of the Business
Stock holders of the business.
Hiring supervisors of the business

Not one that was mentioned in the article. NOT ONE
The only people arrested according to the article were the people who were here illegally.

From the article

“Businesses that knowingly hire illegal aliens create an unfair advantage over their competing businesses," Berger said. “They take jobs away from U.S. citizens and legal residents, and they create an atmosphere poised for exploiting their illegal workforce.”

We all agree with this I think. But we will never solve this problem as long as we focus on the people who are here illegally because those who are here legally and then profit from those who are here illegally are almost NEVER arrested and processecuted.

Arrest the managers. Arrest the owners. Arrest all those who profit off the of the labor of slave labor that work for them illegally.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

Well that would imply that there was an actual desire to do something about illegal immigration and not just use the issue to distract petty people.

originally posted by: Waterglass
Just thinking about AOC. Is she owned by the Cabal? Hay Hay

Not for nothing but the CEO, Howard (Edward) Cho is a Republican donor.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
Is the company going to be charged with 280 counts of hiring illegal immigrants?

Of course not. Because that would actually discourage these companies from hiring them which would actually curb illegal immigration.

Ouch, don't hurt nobody.

This is supposed to be an AOC troll thread combined with anti-illegal immigrants who aren't gang members, drug smugglers, or homeless but actually have decent jobs and a place to live without government assistance.

Your inconvenient truths are edgy and will be met with counter arguments from Trump advocates.

a reply to: Waterglass

Do not call that number, I think that is a scam.

I'm pretty sure they only send letters.

A family member of mine tried to use my grandma's ss# after she died and they only sent a letter.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Did they work at a Trump hotel?

And I do agree. If you want to stop illegal immigration. Start putting companies that hire illegal immigrants in prison. Or figure out a better way to make visas available to those that want to work and get them in here the right way. Paying taxes and contributing to communities.

"They aren't all criminals...."

Sadly, it still counts with all the identity theft and fraud even "innocent" illegals need to commit to work here. Those are crimes, their are victims(especially with identity theft), they are then by definition criminals.

This is good news, process them and ship them out..BUT

God I wish they'd hose the crap out of that company, criminal charges for a few higher ups and/or massive fines(100K per employee or maybe just 50K, don't bankrupt them but give them a slap they won't forget).

Also would be nice if their business name could be dragged through the mud in public and put a nice dent in their revenue.

a reply to: TerryMcGuire

So who says that ICE and USDOJ doesn't prosecute. My wife works in a Processing Plant. ICE raided it in 2017 and seized all of the executives and others in Human Resources laptops, routers and servers. They were just back a month ago. The Executives do get prosecuted. Remember many US politicians and MSM is not our friend. Especially the know it all cheerleader from the Bronx.

""Many of the individuals employed at CVE were using fraudulent ID documents, ICE said.""

😎

This type of thing needs to be handled the same with every employer across the nation, from the sole proprietorship - one person business hiring a single illegal up to a company like this - the only difference should be the "counts" and fines against them. Hire 40 people, and you get 40x the fine. If there is jail sentences, there sholdn't be a life sentence b/c you hired 280 people and you get 1 year each.

There should be a minimum $10,000 fine per instance of hiring an illegal for every year they are "employed" (and an employee working for a day would get you the same fine). If records prove that you employed the person for 4 years, then they are fined $40,000 for that employee. The reason for this is because the financial penalty needs to be great enough to make it not worth the amount of money saved to hire them. By accumulating fines per year, this would also probably make employment more difficult for illegals b/c employers would be less likely to keep them on for over a year due to accumulating fines - which makes the illegals a MUCH less attractive prospect b/c you know they will be replaced in 12 months or risk a much greater fine if caught.

If the company gets caught a second time, they should get a steeper fine, possibly a loss of right to conduct business for XX amount of time (unless it is a "critical" infrastructure or manufacturing business - then it would be handled with different penalties). If they are a government contractor, they should loose the ability to bid on any new contracts for XX amount of time after being caught, and if a repeat offender, banned.

ICE and local, state or federal police also need to be more proactive in busting these businesses that do this. They can't sit on information that a business is employing 50+ illegals and wait 4-6+ years so they can fine them $10K/illegal for each year b/c during that time it hurts the local economy and the wages of the local businesses.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Oh I do call now because F it. Whaata they going to do kill me? The prior call that I called back on had a male, Asian Pacific answer. So I asked him whether he's working for the Russians or Chinese. He said Chinese several times then he told me to go F myself as I did likewise.

So much for these cheap no contract cell phone plans. The phone number comes with the prior owners baggage along with more bill collectors, johns and other junk. Jesus C...........

It remains to hopefully be seen if the administration and ICE's strongarm operation will eventually send chills down would-be illegal crossers minds, as well as the effect of reducing or "stopping" funding to those nations.

When it comes to what the President is doing within his own powers outside of Congressional approval, he doesn't have to word it transparently factual even in the slightest. He has full liberty on spinning it himself, making it seem better or worse, softer or harder, drastic or just increased/decreased by a margin.

If you miss sight of the nature of his personality and character as a person because you like and agree with almost everything that he says and does in his power as President, this might go on your back burner or you might mitigate it so much versus the results that are made which might fall well short of the goal or stated action being taken yet is definitely in the right direction in your fundamental opinion.

That's the best, cheapest, least dramatic and easiest solution to get real results asap instead of mulling about to slowly construct a wall, arguing over it at all levels from the internet to the highest courts and hauls of congress with new dramatic, overblown media articles stoking the fire of disagreement and contempt on both sides of our political system, thus the entire thing, for ratings. $$$

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

F ing LOCK HIM UP. Free prison sex fur life! Dont paint all pubs or all dems bad. Bad is Bad

Oh and whatever happened to the guy with the big mouth. Tray Goudy. RINO in a cheap suit?

a reply to: Waterglass

Get fired up man.

Coincidence the IRS called you?

No way. They are the first part of the government to strong arm people.

You're being too calm about this. Show some passion.

a reply to: Waterglass

As I said ''almost'' never arrested. In the case you mention apparently they were prosecuted.

My point though is where is the public focus. That focus is not on those who hire illegal workers but on the illegal workers themselves. For all the vitriol that is lavished on the workers, there seems little to not outrage on those that hire them. Over and over and over.

Trump wants to scare away illegal workers, or so he says. Conservatives want to stop illegal workers from working here.
But apparently the owners of American factories and construction firms and such do not want to stop hiring illegal workers. That would cut into their bottom line and they do not want that.

Maybe if the outrage of ''anti'' illegal workers was turned to ''anti'' companies that hire them, we could get a better handle on the problem.