Progressive groups plan nationwide protests over Mueller report release

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: DBCowboy

Im saying that Barr is using selective partial sentences to convey a message that the agents who worked on the investigation claim is inadequate.
But I wont know until the report is released but it sure seems to be concerning them.

Why would he knowingly lie when the full report would eventually be released?

There's nothing to gain.

Plus Rosenstein also co-authored the memo about the report and he's also no fan of Trump.

a reply to: projectvxn

I cant back up garbage claims because I didnt make any.

www.vox.com...

We now have a clearer picture of why the FBI was watching former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page, after the Justice Department released previously classified documents related to the FBI’s request to conduct surveillance on him. House Republicans had said the FBI abused its power and misled judges in these surveillance applications, but the documents show the FBI had multiple reasons to believe Page was the subject of “targeted recruitment” by Russia in its efforts to undermine the 2016 presidential election and that he had been “collaborating and conspiring with the Russian government.”

I think its a matter of w hat you want to believe but they looked at it and didnt find anything wrong.

Read it but no date. Oh well.

First of all. Not everyone in the House may or may not have the security clearances to read the whole report so things may or may not be heavily redacted. Those redactions may or may not form the basis of continued probing and proving by those that are disenfranchised. I can think of many in the House that have zero business knowing whether my first dog was a male or female, which has zero to do with national security or undercover intelligence assets in the field. In fact, a will say no one in the House needs to know that information period.

Second. If a person is accused of wrongdoing to the point an investigation needed then that person does retain certain rights to privacy especially if there is a determination of no punishable wrongdoing. For those unaware, that policy is very common and happens even here on ATS all the time. We do not discuss a post removal that violated Terms and Conditions with anyone other than the member at hand. And in cases of investigations that result in no wrongdoing, the particular member may or may not even know about it.

I would say that it is sad that an Internet forum conducts itself with far more ethics and principles than the Federal Government, but I realize that we wouldn’t have the membership that we have if we did conduct ourselves like the Federal Government.

a reply to: Krakatoa

We dont have the results Whats to accept? The letter said Mueller didnt exonerate trump. You want to leave it at that?
Cuz thats gonna cost him votes.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: rickymouse

That didn't seem to be a problem when it came to the disastrous Nunes Memo but now its an issue?

The rules just keep changing to suit the situation huh?

I never said that they should not have gone over Nune's memo to make sure it did not disclose anything that might jeopardize national security. If it had classified material in it it should have been deleted. Did it have any classified material in it?

originally posted by: odzeandennz
Transparency in the government? No?
Trump wants it released as well doesn't he?

We should also release the fisa warrant fraud as well. Release it all.

Let people decide which of the lesser of the evils they are willing to accept.

This^^

a reply to: Waterglass

I thought I would add this from Dr. Paul Craig Roberts.

www.paulcraigroberts.org...

Where Is The World Headed? Paul Craig Roberts

Since 2016 the United States has been in the Russiagate box, a hoax created by the US military/security complex to prevent President Trump from normalizing relations with Russia. Normalized relations would devalue THE RUSSIAN THREAT, an orchestration that protects the $1,000 billion annual budget of the military/security complex.

The Democratic Party, which most certainly is not democratic, supported the hoax hoping to do Trump in for their own reasons and pulled the presstitute media into the conspiracy against Trump.

Now that all the assurances from the Establishment that Trump was a traitor to America who conspired with Russian President Putin to steal the election from the killer-bitch in order that America could serve Russian interests have been exposed as lies by the Mueller report, American attention is free to take up some other nonsensical campaign. The succession of these stupidities is destroying America’s reputation.

a reply to: rickymouse

But trump declassified it so that it could be published because it sounded sooooo good.
when it suits we can declassify anything right? When it doesnt we can hide behind the claim that its classified.
I had a cousin who used to change the rules of Monopoly when we were kids when ever she was losing. This is a lot like that.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: rickymouse

We just want to know about trump. Not our under cover agents.

It would have been better if Mueller got with the Department of Justice and brought out a statement that clearly stated everything instead of leaving the obstruction of Justice open for improper interpretation by the media. The media was trying to put a spin on anything it could to save face, even calling Muellers determination of no willingful collusion an opinion

I am leaning way over to conservative now, I am disgusted with the way that liberals are doing things these days, I am ashamed to say I was a moderate liberal for over forty years.

a reply to: xuenchen

Well they can look for it all they want but they arent gonna find it. If they havent yet where is it?

In the secret hall of records under the Sphinx?

a reply to: xuenchen

Meadows? May as well be Nunes... these are trump sycophants dont make me laugh.
That is their wish... its bullschitte.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Nah at the NSA!

a reply to: Waterglass

You made me laugh.... Good one. Thanks.
Gotta go to the grocery store.
Be back later.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Because there's nothing to go after that's why. 

We all know that isn't true.

But dangling it in front of a rally mob sure is a a crowd pleaser ( lock her up even now they say it) so he keeps pretending that its going to happen..... some day....

Trump doesn't dangle it. His supporters however, want justice.

They will probably never get it but that doesn't mean that these Demorats are innocent by any stretch of the imagination...

Trump doesn't do anything without his lawyers looking it over first on things like that. Also, the lawyers would get ahold of someone to find if it was classified or not if Trump wanted to declassify it in whole.

This article is huge and it has names in it that could be sensitive, it is a very classified document that needs to be treated as such. Also, I mentioned that if Trump declassified this whole summary without actually having it gone over, I would be against it and that might be a good reason for impeachment if some people or national security investigations were jeopardized. I also think that Any Senators that try to force the release and succeed without it being redacted properly should be removed from office.. That could possibly put some people in danger or cause a loss of intelligence for this country.

I do not know for sure what is in there, I just know that the information needs to be properly vetted before it is released to the public or Senators without security clearance that are qualified to see the information.

a reply to: Wide-Eyes

Trump doesn't dangle it.

Huh? I read that Trump owns a mini me or is that more fake news

a reply to: xuenchen

Say it ain't so!

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: DBCowboy

Im saying that Barr is using selective partial sentences to convey a message that the agents who worked on the investigation claim is inadequate.
But I wont know until the report is released but it sure seems to be concerning them.

You heard that from Jessica Tarlov 😎