Justice Department sides with court ruling Obamacare invalid

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: shooterbrody

He still needs a plan to pitch, and he doesn't have one.

Yeah well with half the country threatening to impeach him over outrageous lies, I can see why.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

Good. It's about time.

But we'll see the usual dems and republicans try to maintain control of healthcare.

a reply to: TrueAmerican

His DOJ has had plenty of time to attack the ACA. He's had plenty of time to develop an Health Care plan. "Nobody knew how complicated health care is!"

He ran on the promise of "better health care", but he didn't have a replacement plan when the ACA repeal went to the Senate, and he still doesn't have a plan now.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

He's had plenty of time to develop an Health Care plan.

that is not unreasonable.

if only he were the only one to decide these things.....

a reply to: shooterbrody

if only he were the only one to decide these things.....

At least President Obama used Mitt Romney's Republican "Heritage Foundation" health care model for the ACA.

But, Trump's a stable genius. Only he knows how, and can fix health care....but who knew it was sooooo complicated?!!

a reply to: Sookiechacha

The failure on your part and on the part of others is that you are expecting a government-run healthcare plan to replace the current government-run healthcare plan.

Government should not have to replace Obamacare.

Government has no business in healthcare. Healthcare is not a right. It is a purchased service.

Government should just repeal the Obamacare plan in its entirety.

originally posted by: TrueAmerican
Not all Americans can afford health care, and it places an undue burden, and for many an UNATTAINABLE burden, on many Americans- to REQUIRE by law, that one must carry health insurance. Especially considering its ridiculous costs. And especially considering that so many people can barely pay rent with outrageous real estate prices in many parts of the country, with absurdly low-paying jobs, and the untenable situation many people are in.

The ACA was about getting freeloaders to pay their fair share. Why should freeloaders get to use emergency rooms at people who pay healthcare premiums expense? Your way of thinking makes no sense. Just because people can't afford it doesn't mean they are NOT going to use it!!!

And then the ACA got rid of fly-by-night companies with sub-standard policies that never paid out to the hospital. Thereby again forcing the hospital to pass the overhead costs onto other paying customers.

I find it just ludicrous to think given all the productivity gains over the last 30 years the American people are not capable of producing enough to meet our own needs several times over. Instead, everyone is broke, in debt, and one or two paychecks missing away from being homeless. America is weak because the people are weak financially.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Thanks for bringing us all back down to truth. Point duly noted. Mods, that one worthy of applause, please.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Government has no business in healthcare. Healthcare is not a right. It is a purchased service.

I disagree with you, and that's not a "failure" on my part. It's a failure of capitalism, that places profit above life.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DBCowboy

Government has no business in healthcare. Healthcare is not a right. It is a purchased service.

I disagree with you, and that's not a "failure" on my part. It's a failure of capitalism, that places profit above life.

I agree with you. Healthcare is a failure of laissez faire capitalism. Profit is more important than quality. The people who own the hospitals also own the healthcare providers allowing the system to gouge the American consumer at-will.

Government is the ONLY solution powerful enough to fight the large corporations who have unlimited power.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: Sookiechacha

but no collusion or obstruction
muller got squat

and that promise still has time to be fulfilled

They were squawking the same words 2 days into his presidency.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: shooterbrody

Deflection....sigh. You're so predictable.

Trump promised, again and again, to protect those with pre-existing conditions.

First post claims president broke a promise
Second post calls another poster predictable

You can't make this up...

oh puhleeeease. Free market competition without the threat of incessant malpractice lawsuits would achieve vastly greater effect on pricing than any government could. If the average American were to sue McD's for every time they got a substandard lameburger, and all the other fast food joints as well.... lameburgers would also cost a grand a piece due to insane insurance rates.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DBCowboy

Government has no business in healthcare. Healthcare is not a right. It is a purchased service.

I disagree with you, and that's not a "failure" on my part. It's a failure of capitalism, that places profit above life.

Obamacare placed government control "above" life when 30 million lost their coverage with the enactment of Obamacare.

Personal responsibility should be paramount.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Personal responsibility should be paramount.

No average, middle class, tax paying American family can afford or financially survive a catastrophic health crisis of a primary wage earner without government assistance in America.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Middleoftheroad

Tell it to the hundreds of thousands of people who claim that the ACA saved their lives.

I know more people who couldn't afford it. Instead of paying $450 a month plus $7,500 out of pocket (IF I'm in network) every year, I pay a total of $160.00 once a year for a check up and blood work. Lots of doctors have deals with pharmacies and third party companies so you can pay less as an uninsured American. I pay $4.00 for blood psi pills, $60.00 for blood work at a third party company that reports results back to my doctor, and he gets $96.00 for my visit.

$160.00 a year or $5,400.00 a year? Hmm, decisions decisions.

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: shooterbrody

Deflection....sigh. You're so predictable.

Trump promised, again and again, to protect those with pre-existing conditions.

First post claims president broke a promise

He did.

Second post calls another poster predictable

His, as well as your deflection is quite predictable. Yep!

You can't make this up...

Thanks Captain Obvious!

How you know the medical system is #

I have a cash doctor I can visit my cash doctor 4 times a month and it still will be cheaper than 1 month of paying insurance premiums

Somethings wrong when your monthly premium is more than 4 visits and the copay on your already 4x the cost insurance is half the cost of a cash visit

a reply to: LSU2018

Your personal antidotes mean nothing to me.

We're here talking about Trump's efforts to unilaterally remove protection for people who have pre-existing conditions, many of whom will die without medical care, after he campaigned on the promise to protect those very individuals.

a reply to: dfnj2015

Freeloaders benefited the most from obamacare while the Middle Class suffered and couldn't afford it.

You didn't think that post through.