Would you survive what Venezuela is going through?

If the US faced what is happening in Venezuela, I don't think it would be pretty for most Americans.

The number one thing is clean water. Where would you get yours?

I also think about how many people are on medications. How long have you gone without electricity? I've
gone a little over 2 weeks. People are also so far removed from their food. How many people could catch, and kill a squirrel, a bird, a frog etc.
How many people can forage?


I can't even imagine living in a city if that happened. First looting and craziness. Then desperation and probably relocation?


www.npr.org...

"My daughter that is now living here, she has a kid. And she's pregnant. ... She's always worried. Now we don't have light. We don't have water. So it's very hard to live here with all these, you know, situations."

a reply to: JAGStorm

Until factions of the US government decide to topple their own government instead of shooting their president I doubt Americans have much to be worried about.

ETA As for survival in such a situation, the city folk will find it very hard.

I don’t know that I would want to survive what Venezuela is going through. What would be the point of living in a liberal hellhole?

Yeah, a country boy can survive. Got fresh water from wells and stream, livestock and wildlife, greenhouse and fields. Most importantly got guns. It would be hell on city folks after a couple days.

a reply to: Metallicus

I’m guessing that the liberals will not survive.

a reply to: JAGStorm

i have two wells, plentiful wildlife on my property (turkeys,deer, occasional moose,grouse) that if it came down to shortage of food id absolutely shoot to survive ,its below freezing for most of the year so i dont need a fridge in winter, and have fire places and good deal of firewood as well as trees on property but id be more worried about cold then anything else ,also near a medium sized lake so ice fishing is on the menu

i dont take any medication but i do smoke cigarettes. snows not a problem due to having a snow plow as long as gas holds, neighbor has horses and i have a "decorative plow" from ye old times and copious amounts of guns and ammo including BP fire arms . we dont have a zoo though so couldn't eat them but pretty sure we have more animals then people (my town is roughly 30k ppl)

a reply to: JAGStorm

US sanctions certainly ain't helping

Let's invest in weapons of destruction and bully other country's through sanctions while throwing back bread crumbs as "aid", what stupid is this?

Id go find a rich country with poor border security to sneak into.

Puerto Rico done it for a very long time and not many cared.

Seems like they should have at least figured out what is the issue by now.

You forget...

the US is much larger, and has had a technological headstart

We have crews of hundreds for each city to manage the power grid.

We are also lucky in that we have plentiful fresh water everywhere.

We also have stockpiles of food and FEMA that can help.

Our national guard can keep the peace as well if need be.

Venezuela hasnt gotten there yet, but they will. It just takes time with the system they have. The problem in Venezual and a lot of these central/south American countries is that they are much "closer " in time to having had war on their soil, or had their lands run by cartels/ drug lords. Its not a far stretch for them to grab a rifle an use it to get their way vs their neighbor or the government. That and they have shown to be very vulnerable to propaganda.

Once they can finally achieve about 50 years of peace on their soil, things will get better. Cant have people who have resorted to violence in the past... continue to perpetuate solving things with violence in the future.

The rebels need to stand down, and stop being sore losers. The US needs to but out of it and stop trying to put their man in power to combat socialism.

right now I am in the city so the odds are deeply against me, but if I have managed to get out of the city before things got out of hands I would give me even odds.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I am on the outskirts of a big city. I have access to two roads out next to my house. So if it seemed really bad I would pack my months worth of food and water. Plus my gear and head into the desert.
But if it was only going to last a week or so I think I would be just fine. Plenty of board games and some solar power to help.
I would def take that time and sky watch at night

Till the meds ran out.. NO

originally posted by: JAGStorm
If the US faced what is happening in Venezuela, I don't think it would be pretty for most Americans.

The number one thing is clean water. Where would you get yours?

I'd collect rain if they turned the pipes off. I live in an above average rainfall area near the coast. While I waited for that, I have two normal sized freezers caked with ice and an old industrial sized freezer caked with ice. When the electricity went, I'd have to devise a way to catch the melting water until enough rain fell for me which would take a few days to one week tops.

How long have you gone without electricity? I've gone a little over 2 weeks.

A week on two occasions because of hurricanes.

I can't even imagine living in a city if that happened. First looting and craziness. Then desperation and probably relocation?

Depends how "city" your city and nearby area is. My city has 200,000 people and plenty of what you'd call regular neighborhoods with cookie cutter two story houses with driveways and sizeable yards. There's apartments and urban blocked up areas like downtown. The greater metro area has 1.7 million people dispersed into 7 cities and outlying areas including several military bases. Each person has a different situation. I could say that the military presence would help us get fed, maybe.

"My daughter that is now living here, she has a kid. And she's pregnant. ... She's always worried. Now we don't have light. We don't have water. So it's very hard to live here with all these, you know, situations."

She earned a few days worth of food for herself, daughter and grandchild by making that statement to the journalists. I'm sure she was telling the truth but anyway. They didn't plant crops because they weren't expecting U.S. and European backed revolution this year. You're right though, in the urban areas people would have to line up for free food.

Remember this: wherever there is money to be made through business or industry, wherever there's exposure to global media, these are areas that will never completely starve.

I wouldn't know because I have no idea what life is like in Venezuela right now.

I have 1000 lbs of food stockpiled. Barrels of water and multiple carbon filtration systems, and rivers nearby to replenish. Stand alone solar/ battery bank with multiple converters, Many guns and hundreds of lbs of ammo. Plywood to baracade windows. many lbs of grain to grind with my electric bread flour mill for bread. Massive gardens year round. many lbs of gold and silver. A 20 gallon brewery in my shop, and ability to destill spirits. 3 types of medicinal plants. pounds of tea, and grean unroasted coffee beans on hand at all times. my chest freezer and boiler runs off of solar. I have many trees, firewood and a fireplace insert to heat my home in winter, and can run 2 or 3 of my ACs off my generators. 70 +gallons of preserved fuel to run my generators. The small gen will run up to 13 hours on a gallon... I have a good chance of comfortable survival, and can insure that many others will be taken care of as well

a reply to: JAGStorm

I am 20 miles from the closest city (under a thousand people), a 100 miles from one bigger than 30k people.

Have two springs, a pond stocked with fish and a river on my property border.

My only neighbors are Veterans... one is a doctor, one a nurse.

I've a 1/4 acre garden, fruit trees, lots of berries and an overabundance of wildlife.

Root cellar for the winter, outside kitchen with a wood stove for canning.

A medicinal garden and the skills to use it.

Plenty of guns and ammo, but am proficient with a bow and have made my own.

I make my own moccasins.

Have no medications to take, live offgrid so my power would probably last about 15 years.

Burn wood for heat and have about 40 cord or so cut and stacked.

I make my own wine and am already bartering, the goats provide milk and butter, the chickens eggs, the rabbits fertilizer and meat.

To get to my home you would have to be rather proficient at mountain climbing and have a month or so or you could try the one highway through my valley.

On one side, you would have to go 80 miles and make your way through a few hundred farmers who have been there for generations.

On the other side, you would have to go through the Militia of Montana.

I'm putting my odds at better than most.

a reply to: visitedbythem

I see we think alike...

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: visitedbythem

I see we think alike...

Yes.

PS I like you. Always have.

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: Lumenari
a reply to: visitedbythem

I see we think alike...

Yes.

PS I like you. Always have.

Probably since we've both had visitors.. ~wink~