Tommy Robinson going back to prison?

a reply to: gallop

"Because YOU'RE the people assuming racism at every turn. And it's your side who is attacking his family."

With Tommy that's a given, his family well not so much.

I think you might be assuming quite a bit yourself.

Where/when have i attacked Tommy 10 names family?

"But it's Tommy.. ha. he deserves it. Denounce it then, strike out at those who do.. they're on your side. he's only Stevie.. the liar, the racist, who once headed the worst group on the planet, the EDL."

You just summed the dude up in spades, well done!

Hat and a balloon for you there.

"Smash some more racists.. Yarr, they're just monsters.. Look, there is one, he's wearing a polo neck shirt... that's how we know them these days."

Naw mate, but when they start to bump there gums and spout religious intolerant inflammatory bull crap that could quite possibly have lead to the dismissal of two trials involving nefarious paedophiles besting little girls, that's a hint as to how to spot them.

You don't just look you also have to listen. LoL

a reply to: SocratesJohnson

Maybe the NRA could send some guns to the UK, like they did when they Nazis were a threat

Yes. Just like those nice Americans did when they funded arms and explosives for the IRA back in the day. That helped a lot. Thanks for that.

a reply to: gallop

Those valid points are all for Tommy's personal gain.

And he did not bring up nor uncover these horrendous acts of depravity.

He simply used them to promote his own nefarious religious intolerant agenda!

There's rather a difference by orders of magnitude.

The Paedophiles responsible for these horrible acts of depravity are now in gaol, off our street, and away from vulnerable people, for the time being, no thanks to Tommy, that's a given.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: gallop

"Because YOU'RE the people assuming racism at every turn. And it's your side who is attacking his family."

With Tommy that's a given, his family well not so much.

I think you might be assuming quite a bit yourself.

Where/when have i attacked Tommy 10 names family?

Do you distance yourself from your own kin, and denounce this tactic? Where innocent people are assumed guilty by association?

Why do we not see this from people then, and instead, it is ignored and wholly accepted because of your perceived assumption of guilt?

I don't just, but from the fruit that falls from the tree.

"But it's Tommy.. ha. he deserves it. Denounce it then, strike out at those who do.. they're on your side. he's only Stevie.. the liar, the racist, who once headed the worst group on the planet, the EDL."

You just summed the dude up in spades, well done!

Hat and a balloon for you there.

So, you admit not to seeing how things are now, but base your opinion of things from 6 or more years ago. This is justification for your ire. Despite everything, you don't care, and no everything that occurs is okey dokey?

No hat or balloon for you.. They're still bald under the hat.. Obvious racists.

Well done, indeed. It doesn't take much to reveal things. Perhaps get out of the past, and look at what is happening now.

"Smash some more racists.. Yarr, they're just monsters.. Look, there is one, he's wearing a polo neck shirt... that's how we know them these days."

Naw mate, but when they start to bump there gums and spout religious intolerant inflammatory bull crap that could quite possibly have lead to the dismissal of two trials involving nefarious paedophiles besting little girls, that a hint as to how to spot them.

You don't just look you also have to listen. LoL

What lol? Who is laughing about child rape gangs? Where gangs of men, orchestrate the procurement and debasement of young girls? No #ing me...

Who is being persecuted for bringing it up. Who is being targeted for simply raising the issue? Where certain groups are time and time again, seen to be perpetrators above anyone else? Who is trying to minimalise the issue?

You're sick. Go laugh some more, at the facts. Arrest and persecute everyone who brings the issue up. Some people are a protected species, you know.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: gallop

Those valid points are all for Tommy's personal gain.

In your opinion.

And he did not bring up nor uncover these horrendous acts of depravity.

Again, in your opinion. Where else are they raised with impunity? No where.

He simply used them to promote his own nefarious religious intolerant agenda!

There's rather a difference by orders of magnitude.

The Paedophiles responsible for these horrible acts of depravity are now in gaol, off our street, and away from vulnerable people, for the time being, no thanks to Tommy, that's a given.

Mate, you're obviously not followed along. Certainly not followed his posts/videos/sentiments.

You are ill informed, and just another one in the line of those who also do not. Ignore the past, look at RIGHT NOW. Huge difference, and you look at right now, and can still satisfy yourself in the belief he's a rotten pos, and keep on being as you believe, then.. no hope.

What I see, and what you must see, are vastly different ends of the spectrum.

I'm out before I get pinged for letting myself grab the anger I feel at the inability of others to see.

All it all, we're not enemies.. we're just two people, with opposing views.

a reply to: gallop

I'm sick indeed little bit.

Sick and tired of nonsensical racist Muslim hating retarded halfwits that refuse to see further than the silly nose on there puss.

Sick of listening to the likes of Tommy and his ilk lark on about Muslims being the problem when real issues and culprits responsible and behind the socioeconomic dilemmas, austerity, and the division amongst our population, are staring us in the face.

Sick indeed.

a reply to: gallop

"In your opinion."

Its a fact Tommy uncovered nothing. LoL

Simply presenting other peoples homework as his own, once again.

Tell you what i don't see, i don't see the so-called social justice warrior that you do, but then again i dont have rose coloured spectacles superglued to my face neither.

If you wish to be angry at anyone, i suggest you direct it toward the idiot who could quite possibly have gotten pedos off down to unsafe convictions.

Opposing views, or otherwise, the beasts went down, they deserve far worse.

a reply to: gallop

Certainly not followed his posts/videos/sentiments.

Actually, neither have I. That's because i don't spend my time going onto extreme right wing hatemongering sites on social media. But that's just me. Each to his own.

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: ScepticScot

originally posted by: Wardaddy454

originally posted by: Subaeruginosa
a reply to: Asktheanimals

Ok, I just read a few news articles on the case and am left kinda wondering about what exactly he was trying to accomplish by interfering with a criminal trial like that?

I mean, fair enough if the trial was already over and the men were found not guilty.

But as far as I can see, all he did was put the prosecution's case at risk, for the pure purpose of self promotion.

Do you think jurors aren't swayed by outside influences as it is? Do you not think they would be influenced by the prosecution showing pictures of the victims? That would negate a fair trial in my mind, so how would someone reporting it, whether they show bias or not, do any worse? I guess we're just acknowledging ceremony at that point.

The jury are meant to reach a decision based on the evidence presented, which has to done in way consistent with a fair trial.

Meant to, being the operative phrase here. Most people go in with their minds already made up, depending on how heinous the crime, and its up to the defense to change their minds. If the defense can't do that, then it doesn't really matter what influenced the jury.

In a high profile or more disturbing case it's probably impossible for a jury to be completely objective. However the aim of the legal system should be to ensure as fair a trial as possible.

As a potential juror, if a case was basically summed up as "A bunch of middle-eastern men were caught raping kids", that would throw my objectivity off before someone with YouTube videos would.

I think its a weak charge, and I also think its also in relation to the previous UK government VIP pedophile ring stuff.

I have to imagine anyone involved would want to clamp down on any investigations.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

Well, I think this just goes to show that it doesn't matter what you speak out against, because you will be punished, because … because: you are not supposed to be speaking out against any things that rock the wrong boat(s).

a reply to: Wardaddy454

"As a potential juror, if a case was basically summed up as "A bunch of middle-eastern men were caught raping kids", that would throw my objectivity off before someone with YouTube videos would."

Have to say i would probably fall in to that category also, regarding men caught raping kids, which is why we would probobly not be selected for jury duty. LoL

Don't matter where they are from through, as a beast is a beast.

As to our beloved gooberments past and present VIP pedophile ring connections.

That's been going on since time immemorial and simply swept under the carpet.

Its is a stain on this nation, the aristocracy, and any other nefarious bastard politicians and/or civil servants, complicit enough to attempt to hide such debauchery away form public light.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Wardaddy454

"As a potential juror, if a case was basically summed up as "A bunch of middle-eastern men were caught raping kids", that would throw my objectivity off before someone with YouTube videos would."

Have to say i would probably fall in to that category also, regarding men caught raping kids, which is why we would probobly not be selected for jury duty. LoL

Don't matter where they are from through, as a beast is a beast.

As to our beloved gooberments past and present VIP pedophile ring connections.

That's been going on since time immemorial and simply swept under the carpet.

Its is a stain on this nation, the aristocracy, and any other nefarious bastard politicians and/or civil servants, complicit enough to attempt to hide such debauchery away form public light.

That's my point. Every time it comes up, we're told how much of a bad person TR is. I don't care what TR's real name is, theres a lot of people that use pseudonyms. I don't care that he has an imperfect past. What I care about is why he's reporting something, and why everyone here on ATS and the UK government is seemingly trying to suppress it. It only makes me more curious about what he's trying to report.

Its the same with Sweden. Why is that also being suppressed?

ETA: And it kind of does matter where they are from, as Muslims have suddenly become a new protected class. Protected from scrutiny. Protected from crime stats. And potentially protected because "culture".

a reply to: Wardaddy454

Canny be that well protected quite a few just went to gaol for beasting those poor wee girls.

End of the day thats a win, the real tragedy lies in the fact that it took social work and Police so long to prosecute.

Adding race on to any crime through can somewhat diminish the actual act by way of detracting from the actual criminal act.

Like i said a beast is a beast.

What does it matter as to the race or religious orientations of the bastards in question?

If it had been white christian pedophiles who committed these horrendous acts would we label them as such, or would the simple be pedophiles?

a reply to: Asktheanimals



This guy highlighted in the red circle is apparently Tommy 10 names security guard. LoL

Hes also pictured standing with a notorious EDL leader.

Kind of says quite a bit really when you have to resort to Nazi Muppet's like this for protection.

Just saying.

originally posted by: andy06shake
Have to say i would probably fall in to that category also, regarding men caught raping kids, which is why we would probobly not be selected for jury duty.

Surely, as a member of a jury you would listen to evidence and have an open mind, but hey ho.

Anyway, it's clearly difficult for some people to understand how legal processes work, specifically how trials work in England. However, running around filming, and attempting to film the accused (who were found guilty by the way), the jury, the witnesses and all that would be disruptive, and is therefore contemptuous of court proceedings. Robinson was told not to do so, but he continued. He knew what he was doing. Here, read up the original hearing. Go on... read it.

Ruling 2017

originally posted by: paraphi

originally posted by: andy06shake
Have to say i would probably fall in to that category also, regarding men caught raping kids, which is why we would probobly not be selected for jury duty.

Surely, as a member of a jury you would listen to evidence and have an open mind, but hey ho.

Anyway, it's clearly difficult for some people to understand how legal processes work, specifically how trials work in England. However, running around filming, and attempting to film the accused (who were found guilty by the way), the jury, the witnesses and all that would be disruptive, and is therefore contemptuous of court proceedings. Robinson was told not to do so, but he continued. He knew what he was doing. Here, read up the original hearing. Go on... read it.

Ruling 2017

The accused in a rape trial have no privacy rights in UK law. That's why a specific gag order (or 'postponement order') is required and is initiated by the judge for certain trials. As yet I have not seen anyone post the specifics of the postponement order... mainly because the mob doesn't care, they are just running around with pitch forks driven by pure hatred whipped up by the media.

The process the judge followed to imprison Robinson was wholly inappropriate and he was forced to rescind the additional gag order he placed on even talking about Robinson's imprisonment and Robinson was freed on bail. There is no place for kangaroo courts aimed at jailing political enemies in this country. That is far more dangerous than Robinson listing names of accused child rapists who had already been listed by the BBC.

a reply to: paraphi

With guys besting weans paraphi i dont think i could be very objective, that's just the truth, and why i would not be selected, i would tell them that when questioned.

I ken what he done just fine, judges hands were tied, you simply cannot piss in there pocket and claim that its raining.

When they instruct you not to do something or repeat your actions, and you disregard there advice in such a manner, it's a custodial sentence 9 time out of 10.

originally posted by: andy06shake
a reply to: Wardaddy454

Canny be that well protected quite a few just went to gaol for beasting those poor wee girls.

End of the day thats a win, the real tragedy lies in the fact that it took social work and Police so long to prosecute.

Adding race on to any crime through can somewhat diminish the actual act by way of detracting from the actual criminal act.

Like i said a beast is a beast.

What does it matter as to the race or religious orientations of the bastards in question?

If it had been white christian pedophiles who committed these horrendous acts would we label them as such, or would the simple be pedophiles?

What does it matter? Well lets use your beast analogy:

You don't let a wild animal in your house, or anywhere near it do you? No, because you know there is the potential for danger.

We know that in certain cultures child sex and marriage (which leads to consummation obviously) is acceptable, or at the very least, happens enough that people turn a blind eye to it. People will give away their daughters to men with more stuff in exchange for that stuff. Yes, even in the year 2019.

Is that acceptable in your culture?

a reply to: Wardaddy454

Beast has somewhat of a different connotation where i hail from.

I'm not condoning there actions.

But we done the same or very similar not to long ago, the hypocrisy needs to be recognized and addressed.

They dont practice such debauchery and go unpunished in the UK.

Social work and Police, all the same, could indeed do a far better job, detecting and prosecuting the pedophiles and beasts, of all colours shape size and creed, that's a given.

It's acceptable in Sharia law following nations, as deplorable and horrendous as that may seem, its simply not our bag of spanners to be carrying.