America, the BBC is constantly muck-spreading about you

www.bbc.co.uk...

One thing Americans find hard to talk about

A US psychologist who specialises in conflict resolution overseas is now turning her attention to race at home.

Ever since Trump came into office they have been doing this. It stinks. If you go to the YouTube hosting channel for this news video you will see how ALL the comments from the British communicate contempt for what the BBC is doing relating to race.

It is the BBC who are baiting us with race. They are talking about it FAR TOO MUCH for my liking. They do the same with gender and sexuality too. The other British news media outfit doing EXACTLY the same thing is "The Guardian". They only have one acceptable definition of America and that is Democrat. They are extremely politically biased and often smear America like this, making up news, fake news and telling lies about the national American character.

I have read on ATS since 2010 and I KNOW how much you guys here deal with race issues. I think you all have a reasonably balanced and thought provoking stance relating to race. I think you have a a good conscious understanding of race - MUCH BETTER THAN THE BRITISH. It is we who are the idiot in that department.

I feel I must apologize and I want you to know that the BBC has very low credibility now in the UK for doing what they do. The Guardian is the least popular of the intellectual media by far and both are tin pot dictators of an extreme liberal agenda that is having a terrible and destructive influence on our societies.

LOOK at ALL the comments on the YouTube channel. They are ALL angry at the BBC. I will not even pay my license fee to these hypocrites. I want them to be dismantled because they are not fit for purpose. They have never been investigated properly for all the CHILD ABUSE CRIMES. The monster Saville was only the tip of the iceberg. Essentially we have an organisation with a corrupt past of covering up the worst kind of child abuse in its ranks for decades trying to tell us that it knows all about race consciousness.

They disgust me to the core. You know I am in many ways opposing Tommy Robinson, as a friend and supporter of the Jewisih community, but he is right about the BBC. They are vile.

They are race baiting us and generally minority baiting us. They are making the problem. Don't let these extreme liberals destroy our societies. MLK would have condemned them for what they do, undoing all the good work that he did. Bob Marley, well you know what he thought about them and it would be ten times the power now for sure.

We have a right to make up our own attitudes in our lives. As long as we do not break the law we can believe what we wish. Fight them at every opportunity for your freedom. It must stop at hate though of course.

I do not hate the BBC. I hate what they have done and I believe they are so damaged and ruined that they need to be completely dismantled. Who needs a state TV station in this day and age for goodness sake? It is like something out of China or Russia. Diversity of opinion is what we need. That will show we are doing well with diversity and individuality.

I don't believe a word they say about America. I believe what you guys say about America as you are the real America. I know you well and it is a very dynamic society, very intelligent and lateral minded. You make the UK look very lame and tired, believe it. I have actually learned so much from America in a healthy way. That is how you won my respect. You are a good influence to me, that is the REAL AMERICA and not some fake news propaganda illusion conjured up by this ugly media outfit.

Personal ranking of Media:

ATS - 99% cool!

BBC - Nil Point!

Guardian - Nil Point!

Times - 50 %

Reuters - 70%

J Post - 67%.

Just to give you an idea of what I am trying to trust right now. I think ATS people fed media platforms and such like have a great future as information media. The people are telling the story and the people are dissecting it. There is no agenda or lobbying and buying of influence then, other than our own agendas and interests at work and it is very heavily analysed to boot. That is healthy. If the MSM are going to fail us so then we must find another way of informing ourselves that is healthy. The MSM are so corrupt and infiltrated it is hard to believce a word they say now. They have near zero credibility of journalism.

a reply to: Malak777

Educated people do not get any respect in the US. Everyone here is an expert in their own mind.

no worse than our own media
we don't have news, we have leftist propaganda

The Australian ABC news hates Trump and his supporters as well, given up reading their news reports, all opinion pieces

originally posted by: ElGoobero
no worse than our own media
we don't have news, we have leftist propaganda

I never understand the "leftist" comment. The corporate media never says anything bad about advertisers. The corporate media never organizes workers strikes. I think the corporate media will say BS having nothing to do with anything important to generate outrage and anger by the right because outrage equals ratings. And ratings equals money.

If you want true left wing media go to this site: truthout.org...

I just love videos like that one.

Let's gather a bunch of people together that insist on being different and let them be upset when someone notices they're different.

Did you catch the part where they said America had 400 years of racism?
The country isnt even 250 years old yet so isnt that first 150 years on the European countries that governed the colonies?

I find it very hard to take any news media seriously anymore especially foreign news media.
We as a people can only control ourselves and I for one get tired of being told what I think.

originally posted by: Raggedyman
The Australian ABC news hates Trump and his supporters as well, given up reading their news reports, all opinion pieces

It’s funny how people that live on islands like to criticize our handling of the open Southern Border we have with Mexico. Britain and Australia have much greater control of their immigration than we do here in the States not to mention you don’t have a major party actively trying to undermine your country by encouraging illegal immigration.

We have a number of difficult issues here in our country that don’t apply to other places in the world. We are the great melting pot experiment and it creates a lot of friction and tension that comes with that kind of unique situation.

the Guardian: Wrong about everything. All the time.

Seriously folks, if I was an independent business advisor right now I would be warning the BBC and MSM that the dogs have had their day unless they revolutionize. It is not we who need to have a revolution - it is THEM.

They need to get real and "down with the people". Instead of dictating to us they need to represent us. They need to do what they are meant to do, that is reflect us - to mirror us.

At present they are taking info and twisting it to fit with an elite inner circle prescribed agenda and objective. I bet it is all handed down through the hierarchy, essentially as dogmatic as anything China does. People are being ordered through a chain of command to hit us with all this minority obsessed media. It is not information. It is disinformation when that happens. It is ordered control of what attitudes are allowed and what are not. We have law already. This is not law. It is control by the state and by elitist interests that are forced upon people like the fences on a sheep pen.

They are treading where they should never have trodden. We can not allow ourselves to let the state decide how we express ourselves racially, religiously, sexually. They are treating all these like some kind of auditing operation. That is what they are doing. We have laws for this. When in obvious question our behaviours go to court. We can't allow lobbyists, business and the state to control us so intimately. Now that really is Orwellian. The BBC and Guardian are it right now.

I have my own attitudes about race. I feel a particular way about Japanese people, another about African people that I have decided for me only, but most of all I have my attitudes about other individuals. I want my individuality. It is just another prison to be labelled as this or that race, gender or sexuality and have a million protocols pinning me to a state and business decided identity and not my own.

People knows this instinctively and that is why just about EVERYONE has had enough of them. It will show in the loss of their support financially. In the finish they will destroy themselves. How long will a billionaire keep pouring millions in to something that eats it up just as fast and can't stand on its own two feet because it utterly alienated the vast majority of its customers except for an extreme clique? Think about that, BBC and Guardian! The whole reason they are wealthy is because they back only the kinds businesses that give a return on investments.

MSM, you have big competition now and you may be found to be a dinosaur that the world has outgrown. Might it be best to at least try and keep up or face extinction? Face the future that it is free and not state/industry dictated. Stop running scared from your own inanity and irrelevance.

Out here on the perimeter we are all stars (deliberate allusion to Jim Morrison). We are all valid or none of us are.

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Malak777

Educated people do not get any respect in the US. Everyone here is an expert in their own mind.

Ummm...oh...you mean all those people who read what other minds had produced...then regurgitated it back on command...all while sitting through indoctrination lectures that extolled tolerance and multiculturalism...until of course said tolerance ran up against a separate...unindoctrinated thought train...

That’s when tolerance became intolerant...and multiculturism meant everything...except...white western culture...

Thus proving that this much vaunted and in your face...educated people...you speak so lovingly about...were not better...or enlightened...or progressive...

They are merely bigoted...narrow minded and ideocratic...

Anytime an individual or group thinks they’re elevated above the norm...or part of the chosen...or elite...then they’ve simply swallowed indoctrination and proven that they are much further from any enlightened state than when they began...

True elevation in thought and practice...comes from equation...from equanimity...from allowance and considered acceptance of perspectives unthought, un-held, and non-considered...

You don’t practice equality...nor do you practice tolerance...therefore this education you speak to...is non inclusive and discriminatory...

You champion segregation and bondage...your love for labeling...for attempting to bind others into catchphrase in order to shame and denigrate so that you can hold over them some imagined high ground...is both pathetic and childish...and should have no place in halls of learning...yet there it festers...

Imagine that...





YouSir

originally posted by: Malak777
People knows this instinctively and that is why just about EVERYONE has had enough of them. It will show in the loss of their support financially. In the finish they will destroy themselves. How long will a billionaire keep pouring millions in to something that eats it up just as fast and can't stand on its own two feet because it utterly alienated the vast majority of its customers except for an extreme clique? Think about that, BBC and Guardian! The whole reason they are wealthy is because they back only the kinds businesses that give a return on investments.

To be exact, the BBC has a state-guaranteed income in the form of the licence fee, which cushions it against commercial pressure.
The BBC has always been the organ of the middle-class establishment. The difference now is that the middle-class establishment has gone politically correct.

a reply to: YouSir

Who is gonna keep up with you, eh! That is some mighty fine commentary right there! I really liked that.

a reply to: Malak777

Us Brits do have other news sources, you know. We are not stupid.

originally posted by: DISRAELI

originally posted by: Malak777
People knows this instinctively and that is why just about EVERYONE has had enough of them. It will show in the loss of their support financially. In the finish they will destroy themselves. How long will a billionaire keep pouring millions in to something that eats it up just as fast and can't stand on its own two feet because it utterly alienated the vast majority of its customers except for an extreme clique? Think about that, BBC and Guardian! The whole reason they are wealthy is because they back only the kinds businesses that give a return on investments.

To be exact, the BBC has a state-guaranteed income in the form of the licence fee, which cushions it against commercial pressure.
The BBC has always been the organ of the middle-class establishment. The difference now is that the middle-class establishment has gone politically correct.

Yes, that is a valid point. I wonder if coc aine turns you into a politically correct liberal extremist, ho ho!



The middle class are just wiping themselves and all their institutions out through fear of the digital age. They'll cause a blooming civil war if they carry on like this much longer. May be that is what their "handlers" want? Couldn't do a better job if they tried. How covert! They have their bosses and they are being told what to do too. They are less free than we are for their "bit of extra". How horribly controlled they all are. They can't be happy living like that? Well they are their own jailors. Let them believe their own political correctness. The majority don't. I am free and no amount of MSM narrative will convert me into a believer in the god of political correctness!



I am actually better educated than most of the middle class and the upper crust too. While they bathe in hedonism I have been studying and observing hard all these years. I have torn them to pieces in arguments many times. We need to just inform ourselves. Remember, they are controlled and run away from honesty and facts, heads in the sand of political correctness world. They are not informing themselves. They are digging ever deeper holes for their political correctness. Soon it will look so pathetic and outdated and so will they. Take over with information and education of ourselves and expand our consciousness beyond theirs and they lose all relevance. We have the very world of information at our finger tips now.

Yep, they have more cash and posh houses, but I have got my informed mind and consciousness. That is the most important thing.

They are their own worst enemy. However, they will ruin our lives too along the way. They have become very corrupted as the child abuse in all their institutions and general social mayhem is demonstrating. Time to wise up, middle class liberals. You better start competing again if you wanna keep your edge. I can run rings around you intellectually. Who is the real middle class then? Is it determined only about how much cash and real estate you have and what career you landed because you went to all the right schools and have all the contacts of entitlement?

a reply to: Malak777

So, who are the BBC and the Guardian "not allowed to criticise"?

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: Malak777

So, who are the BBC and the Guardian "not allowed to criticise"?

They can criticise anybody they like just as I can. They are welcome and encouraged to criticise me as you are. However, they criticise while telling us it is not politically correct for us to criticise. Do you see their hypocrisy? That is not the point of this thread. You are starting to try and twist my thread into your suspicion that I am like them and trying to shut down my opponent. They are not even my opponent because if they dropped this insanity I would be back like a shot.

It is the fact they are MUCK SPREADING about America. They are making stuff up about it that is not true. There is a huge disparity between what they keep saying America is and what it really is. They are doing this to serve a particular agenda and standard set by the dreaded political correctness ideology.

They measure up to their political correctness least of all. My own parents are like this. They have become selfish vain hedonists who think they know everything when their behaviour is blinkered and ignorant. They abuse children (metaphorically and in a subtle way) while pontificating about what amazing parents they are. Their priests and vicars, their politicians and media are all a big mess of corruption and they dare to criticise others when they have that stack on their rap sheet. Lol, no wonder they love rap music these days. Suits their coc aine brain, wine drunk, gang promoting lifestyle corrupted delusion.

Every day I wake up, I'll check the news once and get to work and on with my day. I'll check BBC and then ATS.
I'm rather fed up looking at BBC, I'm not sure why I bother doing it. Professionalism seems to be a lot worse than it used to be and all I see is breaking headlines about Brexit or Global warming, then followed after is weight loss and drug addiction stories... waste of time, then I'll just check the weather.

I come on ATS to find better headlines around the world and people have constructive comments/arguments to add to stories, usually things that are actually important and are worth concerning about.

I'm not bothered by what Trump does since I'm not american + I'm not leftist, in fact every time he does something that could really help America it seems like the left fight against it.
I'm sure there are more supporters over here than it seems but they are silent about it for good reasons.

Fox doesn't say anything bad about Trump because they are getting good ratings for supporting.

a reply to: Malak777

You are starting to try and twist my thread into your suspicion that I am like them and trying to shut down my opponent

What, just by asking you a simple straightforward question? Bit touchy, aren't we?

So, the BBC and the Guardian are politically correct? Who would have thought it?

originally posted by: Metallicus

originally posted by: Raggedyman
The Australian ABC news hates Trump and his supporters as well, given up reading their news reports, all opinion pieces

It’s funny how people that live on islands like to criticize our handling of the open Southern Border we have with Mexico. Britain and Australia have much greater control of their immigration than we do here in the States not to mention you don’t have a major party actively trying to undermine your country by encouraging illegal immigration.

We have a number of difficult issues here in our country that don’t apply to other places in the world. We are the great melting pot experiment and it creates a lot of friction and tension that comes with that kind of unique situation.

Oh contrare
Our public broadcaster is very much controlled by our " democrat" equivelant and smearing Trump is smearing what some in Australians stand for.
As for our boarders, yeah, mostly fixed by the tyrany of distance, still I am in Western Australia and we have problems with people in the Eastern Stares trying to get in.

a reply to: SpaghettiHero

I'm rather fed up looking at BBC, I'm not sure why I bother doing it.

I do too. I check them several times a day. I go as many places as I can - Reuters, J Post, BBC, Guardian, Telegraph, Times, Daily Mail. I find ATS to be far more informative about the news. Here we can take them to pieces. On their own sites they don't allow it and the commentary there is so awful and low grade generally. The Guardian was great before it went insane with political correctness and the liberal agenda. I never had much time for the BBC though. I guess I go to so places to gather intelligence like a spy, ho ho.

I think they tried to exploit the digital age with "opinion" when they should have stuck to "journalism". I highly respect acurate quality journalism, but anyone can write opinion. I come to ATS for my opinion.

The big question is who should I trust for the facts?

The Guardian and the BBC have descended into biased opinionating. Even their so called facts are becoming opinion, used as artillery from the "Lockheed Political Correctness Industries" factories, lol.

I used to read a lot on the American News Sites, but they have become far too bhiased now. With all their Trump bashing they have ruined their credibility. I like to come to ATS to get an idea of real America. I think it gives me a very constantly up to date idea. I think I do that because it is not fair game to avoid the real America and only accept the MSM version as they are not my culture and I want to give a fair chance. The JPost is very good like that as they hardly cesnor their comments and I get a real idea about how the Israelis are feeling. They act like journalists generally too. There is opinion there, but it is not the whole. Very good quality actually. In my own culture I know it well enoughh already and can safely read the MSM with my own informed understanding already.

I am constantly updating myself too. I never stop updating. That is why we need information media of all sorts.