Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

I don't know what some of you are talking about atm.
I draw the line at Kardashians and ET.

originally posted by: coursecatalog
Grant Cameron today:

As Sherlock Holmes once declared "The game is afoot." It appears the open public phase of managing magic is about to begin. One of the two camps is about to make an announcement. In days, not weeks, if I am getting the straight goods. Skeptics should now start working up some new lines.

He went on to say this will be a scientific announcement that somehow ties in with aliens.

What exactly are the two camps? TTSA and Firmage?

is there a source for this comment?

a reply to: pigsy2400

Source for the quote is Grant Cameron's Facebook. I think it might also be on Twitter and Instagram.

His source? I have no idea. Here is his follow-up post:

a reply to: coursecatalog

Hmmmmm...depends on who GC is referring to really, there were one or two things a certain young gun posted and pulled pretty quick a while back....I wonder if that's the new acronym?

It won't be TTSA from what grant is implying on some of the replies which is interesting as the young guns have been predominantly pro-TTSA , the war for "disclosure" *coighBScough* and control of the narrative that we have talked about for a while is ramping up so it seems...

Disappearing Object Phenomenon and The Tale of Missing Contraceptive Pills



a reply to: ctj83

All the monsters from under the beds will gather around the cot late each night and say to each other "awww, look at that, isn't she adorable". The children will have interesting invisible friends and heaven help any kid that wrongfully picks on them in primary school.

Jewelry??

originally posted by: AlanHenderson
Disappearing Object Phenomenon and The Tale of Missing Contraceptive Pills

Thanks to modern technology, people have an option when things go missing on a regular basis like that. They can set up a hidden camera that can be disguised as anything, a clock on the wall, or whatever. They are commonly used in nanny cams to monitor how the children are being treated but they can be used for monitoring anything in your home.

Then when you find something went missing you review the recording, and see who took it.

But I agree with Mirageman, this doesn't seem like the topic of this thread which is TTSA.
(Unless TTSA is also missing contraceptives.)

a reply to: Arbitrageur
But I agree with Mirageman, this doesn't seem like the topic of this thread which is TTSA.

Agreed.

Interesting discussion with Kevin Knuth on the relativistic challenges of interstellar exploration with a few TTSA/Nimitz reference points:



Would have thought Knuth might have been an ideal person for Safratti to bounce his Tic Tac decoupling of G tensors theory off - yet it was not mentioned.

Hmm.

a reply to: Baablacksheep

Well bringing it back on topic somewhat, in regard to what Grant Cameron is hinting and it being "more scientific" it's probably more along the lines of something in regards to Nolan and kit green and their data etc.

Possibly.... when GC was asked if it was TTSA - it was quite telling when he said something along the lines of their being "two groups" - I dont think Firmage as the mileage left in him anymore, so it has to be Nolan and Green...

Possibly...

a reply to: pigsy2400
You could be right. Although I always put those guys in the TTSA camp. They are certainly honorary members along with people like Pasulka and Vallee.


Edit: Here's Nolan's response last night to a tweet asking if his group is the one making an announcement:

Nothing from anything I am involved with. Lots going on but going to be months or longer. Peer review is never pretty. 🤓🤨

a reply to: coursecatalog



Makes me think of.....

George Knapp on the warpath against Ufology/Debunkers and Keyboard Warriors again;

You gotta deal with character assassination and recriminations. And it’s kind of amped up in the last year or two. We have a new, recent wrinkle: The wrath of the spurned Ufologists. The debunkers. The jilted, scornful warriors of the Internet, who bravely and courageously joust with and spite, perceived dragons. who are dishing out mighty insults in attempts to intimidate people who are trying to understand what’s going on with them. Or, who wanna share their stories with the world. But they pop their head up on any of these various social media platforms and get pummeled right off the bat. It’s sort of a microcosm, I think, of our times. The anger and hostility that sort of exploded into all aspects of public life. Ufology, of course, has always been contentious.

We’ve always had turf wars and back biting and arguments and accusations about who’s a CIA agent and who’s a disinformation agent and things of that sort. But it’s never been quite like it is right now. On Twitter? The Twit-fologists will jump all over somebody who wants to tell their story. They’re fearsome and mighty. You tangle with them at your own peril. They pounce on anything or anyone who strays beyond the standards that they’ve carved in their dictatel, stone tablets. And along with Twit-fology, there are the Pod-fologists and the Blog-fologists. And the all-around, quintessentially, pissed off, mostly young men, the Shank-fologists. Shank as in a knife, you know? Happy to stick a dictatel shiv in your kidneys when you’re not looking, if you disagree with them on some social platform. So, I think everybody in this room has probably faced that to one degree or another. My personal feeling is that most of these folks would benefit greatly if they got a girlfriend. Or boyfriend.

www.ufojoe.net...

In regards to this;

accusations about who’s a CIA agent and who’s a disinformation agent and things of that sort. But it’s never been quite like it is right now

I know this is going over old ground here....but this is directly from TTSA website

Jim Semivan - CIA
Hal Puthoff - CIA, NSA, DOD
Steve Justice - Lockheed - Private DOD contractor
Luis Elizondo - DOD,DIA,DNI,NPSM
Chris Mellon - DIA,DOD
Dr. Paul Rapp - CIA
Dr. Norm Kahn - CIA
Dr. Colm Kelleher - DOD,NIDS
Dr. Adele Gilpin - DOD

We've never really had a "disclosure" program that is full of alphabet agencies before, not to this level at least. The very people that George appears to have teamed up with BUT for years has stated and still states that the government lies... I find that rather odd, are these not the same people?

Am I missing something here George?

a reply to: pigsy2400
Ha. Yes, try to find someone who is *not* a CIA agent involved in this. You can't throw an orange in the TTSA cafeteria without hitting a CIA agent. Who is Knapp kidding?

And does he really think Twitter trolls are more "fearsome and mighty" than millionaire rock stars and their high level intelligence, aerospace and senate pals?

As for Cameron's hints - maybe he is referring to CBS's 60 Minutes with his post of the clock? I see they have a new episode and not a rerun scheduled for Sunday night. That would be pretty major media.

a reply to: pigsy2400

Twit-fologists?

Classic!


Some pertinent points raised in this recent interview with John Greenland Junior:

See 59:50 + 1:14:00

Video link

a reply to: pigsy2400

Ouch he musta hit some nerves out there lol.

There is not one thing I disagree with in his statement.
I've been called a CIA shill more times than I can count for over 10 years here. lol

And most twiteroligists DO need a girlfriend.

a reply to: karl 12

Hey you!

How are you mate!
I laughed at that as well, I'm gonna steal it for realz.

Did everyone miss the big announcement?

'Proof' of life on Mars

.....They concluded that the microscopic filaments inside could point to the presence of bacteria that survive by eating iron rust. Writing in the paper, its authors said: 'Comparing recent results and interpretation with other meteorites, it can be raised, that on these similarities the microbially mediated biosignatures can be proposed microbial mediation by [iron oxidising bacteria] on Mars.'

Still a way to go yet to have this confirmed...but you don't need to watch a 6 part documentary or read science fiction books for this one....

originally posted by: mirageman
Did everyone miss the big announcement?

No, I remember it being made several years ago.



Glad to see the Daily Mail is keeping it's readership up to date.

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

Well I am no fan of that paper either. But just to clarify the announcement.

It does actually confirm in the first line of the report this an entirely different discovery relating to meteorite ALH-77005.

A second Martian meteorite that shows 'signs of microbial life' has been found, Hungarian researchers say, 20 years after scientists first made a similar claim.

Even though it does digress into the 23 year old announcement about ALH 84001.

Somehow I don't think they will be sending Zondo and Tom to Mars to find more samples! Sadly.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Hola amiga - very well indeed, how's you (I've been called a schill too).



Don't think JGJ is cointelpro but do think he raised some mighty fine points in the interview above - maybe AATIP is all weather baloney misdirection and the CIA journalists at the New York Times are having a right laugh.



a reply to: mirageman

Great thread MM, haven't had time to read through it all (yet) but hats off to you on the research mate!

When it comes to the claims made by AATIP and classified UFO investigation channels has there ever been any mention of military UFO reporting procedure 'OPREP-3'?

'OPREP-3'