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Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

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posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: celltypespecific

When were UFOs not real?



Since you are being a little dense today Mick West address this exact question today:




Really the headline should be: "Navy Confirms Unidentified Flying Objects are Unidentified." It's an old conflation of meanings. Of course "UFO's" are "real". But "real" here means that there are objects that people sometimes see that they can't identify. Maybe they are planes, bird, or ballons, maybe they are alien spaceships or ghosts. But to the UFO enthusiast who thinks that UFO = Aliens, then "UFO's are real" has a very different meaning.


www.metabunk.org...
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posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 04:52 PM
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a reply to: celltypespecific

I see. But you didn't actually answer the question did you?



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: ConfusedBrit


Shall I put the kettle on...?


Yes please CB.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 05:01 PM
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a reply to: celltypespecific


That would be another misrepresentation. When the Navy states the vid wasn't approved for public use it doesn't mean they can't identify the craft. They'll sit on more data regarding such incidents and thus should be able to share more information. There was the term UAV thrown around as well, and this still could be a Freudian Slip of sorts. Amirite?

ATS, the metabunk for metabunk.




posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 05:11 PM
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Just want to say CONGRATS to John Greenewald !! Job well done sir!




posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 05:19 PM
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originally posted by: IMSAM
The prophet spake unbelieving heathens,the true revelation is more horrendous then any of us thought,aliens eat pizza with kiwi!







By the way,ttsa seems a master at capitalizing on any publicity it gets(in this case from greenwald) and claim it as they own it while "reminding" everyone to invest because wonderful things will come. Good work Mr Knapp



I knew he would start blabbering self-praise over this non-event event.



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 05:32 PM
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TTS Academy is excited to announce our team will be back on HISTORY for a second season of the docuseries, UNIDENTIFIED: Inside America's UFO Investigation. Watch the full announcement from Co-founder, Tom DeLonge:



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So this is the big news


Maybe in the next two years, TTSA will do another one thing. The only thing they’ve done in two years is released these recycled videos. Maybe the next two years they’ll do another one thing, or maybe two things.


It does one UFO-related action every two years.

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posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 06:11 PM
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a reply to: celltypespecific

You must have gotten more out of that Jeremy Angleton Dulles Tenet Corbell video than I did.

He seemed to be hinting that maybe the entities behind these UFOs were from another dimension or from the future and were here to guide us or something?




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posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 06:22 PM
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a reply to: coursecatalog

That's part of it.... I am trying to gleam just how much info he actually knows.

He did "leak" that Gimbal and go fast occurred off the east coast (location not officially confirmed by the Navy).

He also mention that either Flir or Gimbal ( I was not clear on which video) was leaked to him before going on some interview. If its the FLIR that was "leaked" to him then he is not truly in the "know". If it was Gimbal that was leaked to him then things get very interesting....

TTSA has there hands on alot of data



According to Mick West:


I think that could be simply a dump of data, not four different videos. A CD can hold 700MB though, and the files in total were only about 22MB total, so if that's all there was then they would very easily have fitted on one disk.


So they have a ton more videos/material for SEASON 2
www.metabunk.org...

Ohh my.... I just noticed you can clearly see the person that's taking the photo of the CDs...their hand and camera is overlayed on CD 4.

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posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 06:23 PM
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a reply to: Willtell

Shouldn't they actually face legal action for all their false claims and financial investigation for their misleading public pronouncements?

1) I mean surely you can't put company logos on DoD video material? But TTSA didn't just flout one rule did they?


Even though you have left Government service, you still may not use non-public information to further your own private interests

ogc.osd.mil...


2) Surely you can't claim that the US Govt. approved public release of videos to you and the media when they didn't.

But TTSA did!



3) Surely you can't claim that the US Navy (TTSA deal with only the Navy) changed their UFO policies to something slightly different to what it was in the first place due to TTSA's intervention?

But TTSA did!


The US Navy is not working with any other entities outside of the US government...







After you leave Government service, you may not represent someone else to the Government regarding particular matters that you worked on while in Government service....

ogc.osd.mil...


Now we have no idea if TTSA is actually all part of government op. Which would actually explain a lot of things.

Or maybe Tom, Zondo and Rogers are Moscow bound?



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posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 06:51 PM
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Now we have no idea if TTSA is actually all part of government op. Which would actually explain a lot of things.

How many times do we have to go over this........

On multiple occasions Big Lue has stated that he and TTSA or happy to work with the government. Additionally, half their board members are former GOV. and some even current GOV.

So yes TTSA is considered a private/industry partner of the GOV.
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posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 07:00 PM
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a reply to: celltypespecific

Where is your proof of this?



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 07:00 PM
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posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 07:04 PM
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a reply to: celltypespecific

So you're saying TTSA is basically a UFO QUANGO?



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 07:08 PM
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originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: celltypespecific

Where is your proof of this?



The proof is right here take a look at the board/advisory panel.... all former Gov. affiliates...
dpo.tothestarsacademy.com...

Big Lue in one of his interviews definetely made it clear that its for the best that they are working with the GOV.

ALSO this might be NEW.... I just noticed a SECOND member of AATIP (besides Lue) is in the public domain...right there on TTSA's website....

Dr. Colm Kelleher... on his bio it states "3 years on AATIP"



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 07:13 PM
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originally posted by: coursecatalog
a reply to: celltypespecific

So you're saying TTSA is basically a UFO QUANGO?




YES.... this directly addresses MM's earlier comments...




2) Surely you can't claim that the US Govt. approved public release of videos to you and the media when they didn't. But TTSA did! 3) Surely you can't claim that the US Navy (TTSA deal with only the Navy) changed their UFO policies to something slightly different to what it was in the first place due to TTSA's intervention? But TTSA did!


TTSA did!
Because TTSA can.....

Big Lue and TTSA will not be shut down anytime soon as their actions are 100% sanctioned by the GOV.


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posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 08:27 PM
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originally posted by: celltypespecific

originally posted by: mirageman
a reply to: celltypespecific

Where is your proof of this?



The proof is right here take a look at the board/advisory panel.... all former Gov. affiliates...
dpo.tothestarsacademy.com...

Big Lue in one of his interviews definetely made it clear that its for the best that they are working with the GOV.

ALSO this might be NEW.... I just noticed a SECOND member of AATIP (besides Lue) is in the public domain...right there on TTSA's website....

Dr. Colm Kelleher... on his bio it states "3 years on AATIP"
I thought this post you made of a post by Tom DeLonge was interesting too!


originally posted by: celltypespecific


IN PLAIN SIGHT...

I wonder if TDL thought he was in charge of what was going on at TTSA, then woke up one day and realized he was "along for the ride", doesn't it sort of read that way?



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 08:39 PM
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a reply to: celltypespecific




TTSA did!
Because TTSA can.....


Plausible deniability reaches for the stars, and why waste a great opportunity to get all Doty when you can bamboozle the mere mortals with limited hangouts and threats?


“I very much expected that when the U.S. military addressed the videos, they would coincide with language we see on official documents that have now been released, and they would label them as ‘drones’ or ‘balloons,’” Greenwald told Motherboard. “However, they did not. They went on the record stating the ‘phenomena’ depicted in those videos, is ‘unidentified.’ That really made me surprised, intrigued, excited and motivated to push harder for the truth.”

U.S. Navy confirms Tom DeLonge of Blink-182 was right about UFOs

The Information Warrior in fatigues told us so, I totally forgot about the weird UAV Balloon line in that clearance request as well now. It's UAPs, obviously.
Who cares anyway? New new threats, new old threats, threats for everyone!



Indeed, the Navy's confirmation makes you wonder what else DeLonge is right about. As he explained once to Paper magazine:

To give you an example, one time I remember bringing up a very specific craft that I believe we're building, in secret, to emulate the phenomenon that our government has been observing for decades. So I started talking about the craft, and its magnetic slide system and how it displaces over 89% of the mass of the ship, how it ionizes the engine, how it glows -- I went through the whole thing, and this engineer looks at me, this guy is 70 years old, and he goes, "You better be real f--king careful about what you're talking about." And I go, "Okay, so I'm close." And he goes, "I'm not f--king kidding with you. You better be really #ing careful." And he calls me up the next day and he goes, "I've had calls about you. If someone comes and asks you to get in their car, don't f--king get in the car." [laughs] And that's the s--t I'm dealing with.


Who knows. That's what Greenewald would be dealing with as well, one way or another. Innit?



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 09:03 PM
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U.S. Navy confirms Tom DeLonge of Blink-182 was right about UFOs
www.salon.com...

This article from Salon is absurd and almost laughable




Indeed, the Navy's confirmation makes you wonder what else DeLonge is right about. As he explained once to


So maybe the Greek gods will appear next

I will make a prediction right here and now

The Navy will find out absolutely NOTHING about this so-called unidentified flying object

WE ALREADY KNEW IT WAS UNIDENTIFIED

This FAKE group TTSA with its FAKE prophet is jerking the public off

Revelations or disclosures WITH NO SUBSTANCE



posted on Sep, 19 2019 @ 09:12 PM
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a reply to: Arbitrageur


No, it proves he’s a government sycophant who needs to get Grammarly or learn how to spell



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