Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

a reply to: PublicOpinion

What I find more interesting is how this witness Cahill said

“My semi-informed opinion is that the field that we access via deep meditation (and some faster techniques) utilizes some of the same infrastructure (frequency, substrate) that ‘they’ do (mentally), and the craft does (by serendipitous manipulation the local field). But no matter how informed, it’s still just an opinion. Resonance, frequency, harmony and vibration, this is how our reality operates.....

These are not the words of your everyday Joe or Jo. These are words of someone who has been wooed by woosters and believes in woo.

a reply to: mirageman

wooed by woosters and believes in woo

That's some triple woo action going on there

serendipitous manipulation

Seems like a contradiction in terms to me...

TTSA has not much left to offer, it seems. The tdlLEVENDA book is out in October, Gods Man and War II.
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But after their TV junket, I don’t know what else they’ve got. Oh, the ADAM material. Well, I would bet that won't amount to much.

a reply to: mirageman

These are not the words of your everyday Joe or Jo. These are words of someone who has been wooed by woosters and believes in woo.

Depending on the perspective, one could say your everyday Joe and Joan have been wooed by woosters to make them believe in woo. Watch more Tucker Carlson in case of doubt.



Not gonna lie, I enjoy the cubistic 4th dimension at play. Can't wait for our "serendipitous" 'coincidences' to release the synchronicity, but I'm under the impression we'll wait forever. In the meantime... Forever Wars, anyone?

a reply to: PublicOpinion

TTSA is not likely going to go into any woo. The only woo guy they got is Levenda and maybe TDL’s new age woo. But if you listened to Steve Justice in the TV series he said he didn’t want to even hear about any aliens, let alone any woo.

..And Zondo is a nut & bolts guy to the bone.

a reply to: Willtell

But if you listened to Steve Justice in the TV series he said he didn’t want to even hear about any aliens, let alone any woo.

The woo can only be the woo until it aint. And we deserve more than this SAP National Security State Bollox, do we not?

"Mr. Gobbleup, tear down this wall (of silence)!"

Not sure if this was covered at the time, but back on 3rd May the was a little bit of a Twitter spat between John Greenewald (The BlackVault) and Mick West (Metabunk) surrounding the request by TTSA for the release of the 3 videos (FLIR, Go Fast, Gimbal)

Since I joined ATS after this time, I've only had a quick look back around that date and couldn't see anything.

In a nutshell, JG doesn't think TTSA were cleared for publishing those videos, MW does

Twitter discussion

JG: The #Pentagon has now OFFICIALLY confirmed to me -- the "DD Form 1910" reported this week does NOT clear the 3 @TTSAcademy videos relating to #AATIP for public release. Attached is the full story, and the Pentagon statement, all too big for tweets.

Metabunk thread

I only picked this up because i see that Mick is going on The Black Vault LIVE tomorrow and might discuss it

I've had a look and i can't see that this was ever resolved since they discussed it on 3rd May?

However, since then we've had the 1st Season of Unidentified (where they've been shown numerous times) and clips of these have also been shown in the MSM quite a few times. Not to mention the FLIR video was effectively in the public domain since 2007, albeit not in the mainstream. So i have to believe there isn't any issue with these videos being shown.

If so, why then did the Pentagon send this email to JG, which he is partly basing his belief on that these videos can't be shown...?



(and i'm assuming this is a genuine email)

Unless perhaps the restriction relates to the extended versions that we've heard TTSA has??
Maybe that's why we haven't seen them as yet?

ETA: Was trying to provide link only to YT, not embed, but didn't work so posting the YT video if anyone's interested...

a reply to: Diaspar

Thanks for the hint about the podcast.

The DD1910 form was discussed at various points in the thread although I don't think we mentioned the 'debate' with Greenwald and West.

I think the jury is still out over it. There are a number of discrepancies with that form. It was also not issued via means of a FOI request. I am not saying it's forgery but anyone could just go to the relevant web page and download a blank copy for themselves. then alter it to say whatever they wanted. It doesn't actually mean it was ever submitted.

Whilst we've pointed out problems with TTSA. Then, to be fair, it also looks like the Pentagon are being less than truthful.

originally posted by: PublicOpinion
a reply to: Willtell

But if you listened to Steve Justice in the TV series he said he didn’t want to even hear about any aliens, let alone any woo.

The woo can only be the woo until it aint. And we deserve more than this SAP National Security State Bollox, do we not?

"Mr. Gobbleup, tear down this wall (of silence)!"

Yeah, I imagine we do deserve more, but unfortunately, it may be every man and woman for themselves in this regard.

One has to take advantage of their own critical thinking, reason, experience, intuition and personal beliefs and tread for themselves.

I believe there is at the end of the Tunnell. We just have to learn the road to the end

For those interested in ‘Art’s Parts’, later transferred to Linda Moulton Howe and now probably rebooted by TTSA, there’s a wayback page with pictures of the parts and letters from the Mysterious Person who sent the parts to Art Bell.

URL: (replace ** by //) https:**web.archive.org/web/20010614020521/http:**www.artbell.com/roscrash.html

The Mysterious Person claims his grandfather was involved in the Roswell crash, as a member of the Retrieval Team, and kept some parts to himself which he later gave to his grandson.

His grandfather apparently also telepathically communicated with the only surviving Alien.

The Mysterious Person first sent Art Bell some unremarkable stuff and later sent him the “scrapings from the exterior underside of the Disc itself”.

Some excerpts from the Mysterious Person's letters:

The Disc was a "probeship" dispatched from a "launchship" that was stationed at the dimensional gateway to the Terran Solar System, 32 light years from Terra. They had been conducting operations on Terra for over 100 years. Another group were exploring Mars, and Io.

The Disc had collided with a meteor and because of the collision, the inter-atmospheric propulsion system malfunctioned. At the same time, the inter-atmospheric propulsion system had a massive electrical burn-out, and the Disc was soon virtually helpless and had to attempt a soft landing.

There was another option available to the occupants, but it involved activating the Dimensional powerplant for deep space travel. However, it opens an energy vortex around the Disc for 1,500 miles in all directions. Activating the Dimensional powerplant, would have resulted in the annihilation of the states of New Mexico, Arizona, California and portions of Mexico. Possibly even further states would have been affected.

Thus, the occupants, chose to ride the ship down, and hope for the best. They literally sacrificed their lives, rather than destroy the populations within their proximity.

The Dimensional powerplant was self-destructed, and the inter-atmospheric propulsion system was also deactivated, to prevent the technology from falling into the hands of the Terrans.

Sounds like a prank to me, unless we have some hard proof.

But alas … the debris was deliberately made indistinguishable from Earth metals by the Aliens:

what came to light was that the metal was virtually indiscernable to Earth metals.
According to Grandad's notations: "this was to insure that in the event of crash or capture, that no verification as to the alien network or the homeworld confederation could be proven, and a compromise of the Alien directives transpired".

Apparantly, "the probeships were constructed with metallic base metals, indistinguishable from Terran metals, as a protective measure & security safeguard".

(Thanks to Robert Sheaffer for digging up this information)

originally posted by: Guest101

"But alas … the debris was deliberately made indistinguishable from Earth metals by the Aliens:
what came to light was that the metal was virtually indiscernable to Earth metals.
According to Grandad's notations: "this was to insure that in the event of crash or capture, that no verification as to the alien network or the homeworld confederation could be proven, and a compromise of the Alien directives transpired".

While observing the migratory patterns of the Camaroon gorillas, we would often blanket the helicopter in banana peels and palm fronds. Should we ever crash, we didn't want the gorillas to suspect they were being observed or worst case, one day build their own helicopter.

Well George Knapp has reached down the back of his sofa and low and behold...pulled out another DIRD that was commissioned in the AAWSAP era;



Contents;


Link to File

a reply to: pigsy2400

Knapp has obviously been holding back stuff to keep the TTS social media campaign moving.

But this appears to be a strange move. It would seem to cement the fact that AAWSAP was in fact exactly what it's official name implies. It was an "Advanced Aerospace Weapon System Applications" project.

So far very little has been released to prove whether AATIP actually was something official. We don't even know if Elizondo was the Director as claimed. Nor whether any of his official role at the Pentagon involved studying UFOs.

Congressman Walker - Letter to the Navy;

a reply to: pigsy2400

Interesting. I think we know now why the IC and military wanted to hide ufos. We always knew the real reason, now these characters bugging the military to come clean-or hasten to get us some real answers are stepping in a minefield, or going where few dared to go in the past


And they might get answers they won't like!

This goes to what the motive behind the creation of TTSA might have been. Just keep in mind the only interesting thing about TTSA is now and always has been the government backing and positive press.

They may have been told to try to jinn up as much interest as you can so we can justify spending money on this.

What other motivation can there be in creating TTSA?

This basically will put pressure on the military. You wonder why they would want that.

Wowzers!


Source



Sources 1 & 2

Very strong claims indeed. Not sure what proof is forthcoming.

a reply to: mirageman

Wowzers indeed!

I think he's pretty upset...



There's a string of scathing posts on that Twitter feed about a number of people in the Ufology community over the past few days.

I wonder who those "sources" (plural) are?
And if these tweets remain up and don't get deleted in the next few days...

a reply to: mirageman

I got it now…TTSA is a mole hunt! :roll

...Operating on the premise of the first Mission Impossible movie. en.wikipedia.org...:_Impossible_(film) If you saw the movie and can remember….That didn’t turn out too well…

Neither will TTSA
TDL is Tom Cruise (Ethan Hunt) and Zondo is Jim Phelps (Jon Voight)

originally posted by: Diaspar
a reply to: mirageman

Wowzers indeed!

I think he's pretty upset...

There's a string of scathing posts on that Twitter feed about a number of people in the Ufology community over the past few days.

I wonder who those "sources" (plural) are?
And if these tweets remain up and don't get deleted in the next few days...

I noticed this as well. Former TTSA supporter, Elizondo friend and MuFON director Teresa Tindal also slamming Delonge and secrecy. Claims exposure to a UFO causing her hair to fall out. Seems to be some trouble in UAPland: