Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

a reply to: coursecatalog

Lets not get in to that please........it was removed for a reason.
Thank-you. Its such a lovely day.

a reply to: celltypespecific

a reply to: celltypespecific

Then you should not post such things if you dont wish for things to be known. People are not blind, especially on here.

Sounds juicy.

Chill out... Let's get back to the gentlemen ufo thread this use to be.

Disagree in the best manner… there’s no need to be insulting and belittling each other—were all looking for the same thing…the elusive truth.

When sober and objective we can find some truth and transcend the ufo establishment that has become fossilized.

We’ve become addicted to the idea that only some government scientific endeavor can find the truth about ufos.

But the problem with that is the US government is not scientific nor particularly smart.

originally posted by: coursecatalog
What exactly is the endgame here?

It's becoming more apparent every day that TTSA has nothing up their sleeve.

Edit: Maybe this is like the magicians in Hansen's Trickster book: fake it till you make it. They hope to conjure interstellar spaceships into being through role play.

Reading that made me do a reverse psychology on that which led me to thinking that is exactly what counter intelligence forces have been doing for 70 plus years, except they have been trying to Un-conjure interstellar spaceships out of existence through role play.

INTERVIEW: Nimitz's Sean Cahill on 'Unidentified' experience , struggles of UFO crowd

Q: What do you say to those who downplay the professional opinions of yourself, and other military personnel?

CAHILL: “I take a deep breath and then I don’t say anything. It’s tough man; I’m not The Buddha, try as I might I’m still affected by fear just like anyone, and I get mad sometimes at some of these folks... Folks who have never left their chair, their lab, their garage, and in some cases their own mind. They rely on research they did years ago in subjects that have evolved so much that they no longer resemble anything like the cutting edge that inspired them. I can dig what it feels like to think you know something you can't, that you think you should.

The fact is these folks are fearful and wrong; fearful they will lose the esteem they enjoy, or fear the loss of their livelihood. Worse yet, their reputations are on the line. It’s unfortunate. There is room for everyone. The world will move on. I can’t remember any of the Wright Brother’s critics either so...

Q:What was the experience like on “Unidentified” and what would you like to see shows like it cover in the future?

CAHILL:” Surreal doesn't come close. From my point of view, the show is a painting, each of us in front of the camera makes up the paint with the storytellers as the brushes. I had to come to terms with the idea that there are possibly hundreds of hours of footage,and details that may never come to light, but the overarching message is far stronger than the details.

When I asked Lue in July of 2018 to take me with him, to solve this... I didn't realize that the team would take a shared ‘Jungian Hero’s Journey,’ and distill it down to an hour arch in between commercials, but at the same time while they filmed these little vignettes around people like me, Kev, Gary and the fellas on the east coast, the world happened around Lue, Tom, Chris, Steve and TTSA as a whole. They made the U.S. Navy change course. I have a framed cover of the Navy Times that says so on the wall of my office. That's mic-drop territory right there.

Q: As a meditation specialist, do you see the connections to consciousness and the UFO question?
Personally, a theory I have is we can only communicate through levels of our consciousness and not in our current state.

CAHILL: “My semi-informed opinion is that the field that we access via deep meditation (and some faster techniques) utilizes some of the same infrastructure (frequency, substrate) that ‘they’ do (mentally), and the craft does (by serendipitous manipulation the local field). But no matter how informed, it’s still just an opinion. Resonance, frequency, harmony and vibration, this is how our reality operates. Opinion or not, that is a fact.

ETA: That took nearly 15 mins to upload this post. Seems there is a down time around 7.30 - 8.00 am EDT everyday.

Anyway, it made me lose my train of thought.

It was something along the lines of, does this add any credibility to the sightings or just more hyperbole from the Nimitz witnesses?
Personally, i think it's more of the latter.

a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowed

Reading that made me do a reverse psychology on that which led me to thinking that is exactly what counter intelligence forces have been doing for 70 plus years, except they have been trying to Un-conjure interstellar spaceships out of existence through role play.

Explain SERPO and Dulce in the Bennewitz case?

a reply to: Diaspar

I wanna know if it's "that" Q asking those questions...

The LARP within the LARP. Geez, gimme a fcking break!

But no matter how informed, it’s still just an opinion. Resonance, frequency, harmony and vibration, this is how our reality operates. Opinion or not, that is a fact.

Wha?

a reply to: Diaspar

Seems there is a down time around 7.30 - 8.00 am EDT everyday.

Same problem in this timezone.

The Nimitz case is TTSA's signature case. They've invested heavily in promoting it and don't really seem to have much else to talke about. I guess Zondo will argue that everything else is classified. But there are still far too many loose ends left. I don't doubt that some of these guys witnessed something they couldn't explain.

But then there's stuff that seems confusing to me

When I asked Lue in July of 2018 to take me with him, to solve this... the world happened around Lue, Tom, Chris, Steve and TTSA as a whole. They made the U.S. Navy change course. I have a framed cover of the Navy Times that says so on the wall of my office.

Well there is an online column from the Navy Times discussing the change of UFO policy. Which doesn't mention those guys at TTSA at all.

I also couldn't find the cover he's talking about here (where digital copies are available) : navytimes.va.newsmemory.com...

Now maybe he wasn't referring to this specific "Navy Times"? I could be looking in the wrong place. But I just don't trust any of these guys.

a reply to: coursecatalog

String-theory, essentially.

In the attempt to tie all the four forces together a lot of interesting ideas and new theories have been proposed. One of the most promising of these new theories is string theory. In attempting to unite gravity with the three other forces, string theory requires us to change the way we view the universe.

According to the theory all particles are actually tiny vibrating strings and each type of vibration corresponds to a different particle. The different particles are like the different notes that can be played by bowing a violin string. However, the strings of string theory almost certainly would not look like violin strings.

String theory also requires us to accept the existence of extra dimensions in the universe. We are familiar with the four usual dimensions: up-down, forwards-backwards, left-right and time, but string theory requires seven more dimensions!
A universe of eleven dimensions seems strange to us but many physicists think these extra dimensions are possible and are looking for ways to detect them.

What is string theory?

a reply to: mirageman

They made the U.S. Navy change course. I have a framed cover of the Navy Times that says so on the wall of my office.

Well, this paragraph from the NT article would actually go against that view...

What has changed? Is the U.S. military finally coming around to the idea that alien spacecraft are visiting our planet?
The answer to that question is almost certainly no. Humans’ misinterpretation of observations of natural phenomena are as old as time and include examples such as manatees being seen as mermaids and driftwood in a Scottish loch being interpreted as a monster.

It would suggest to me, as it says in the article, they are looking to remove the U from UFO, not because they believe or have some instinct that they are not man-made, from this world etc, but because they continue to believe that most, if not all, are just further mis-interpretations of natural phenomena or explainable man made objects...

Now maybe he wasn't referring to this specific "Navy Times"? I could be looking in the wrong place.

I couldn't find anything either, but perhaps it's because we're looking at a different point in spacetime to NT, which seems to think today is Monday 29th July...



And this section from the Cahill interview might even have TDL saying...

“My semi-informed opinion is that the field that we access via deep meditation (and some faster techniques) utilizes some of the same infrastructure (frequency, substrate) that ‘they’ do (mentally), and the craft does (by serendipitous manipulation the local field). But no matter how informed, it’s still just an opinion. Resonance, frequency, harmony and vibration, this is how our reality operates. Opinion or not, that is a fact.

a reply to: PublicOpinion

I've said it before this isn't new, we live in the universe, uni-one verse-song
Plain site

a reply to: PublicOpinion


I was referring more to his discussion of science that ends with "opinion or not, that is a fact."

a reply to: coursecatalog

String theory is a fact, his personal combination of a fairly well working hypothesis with "meditation" the (more or less) informed opinion. That's how I'd look at this comment.

a reply to: PublicOpinion

String Theory is a theory.

originally posted by: Diaspar
And this section from the Cahill interview might even have TDL saying...

Yeah, I don't really take anything he says too seriously, but he did mention something of interest in this interview:

www.youtube.com...

I mean the part of them having a "very laid-back exercise" where Princeton was ordered to remain within a certain area and "look for the USS Louisville", "looking for periscopes or other things like that".

That interview wasn't coherent enough to make sense when exactly that happened, but apparently at night, so probably some time before the visual Tic Tac encounter. Has anyone seen him or anyone else stating what Princeton was doing before they re-vectored Fravor and co. towards it? The F-18s were controlled by the E-2C, so Princeton wasn't doing that (originally). It would be interesting to hear if they were playing some games with Louisville at the time, since that sub is the most likely explanation for that faint radar target E-2C detected on the surface and the disturbance in water.

a reply to: coursecatalog

That's an interesting debate. Many things are just a working hypothesis due to our lack of understanding.

However. Physics beyond the Standard Model are a fact. Our old Standard Model is the non-working hypothesis by now, which renders your point moot. At least in my book.

New from Tucker 7/26/19

He was clearly briefed by AATIP...TTSA....

Smart play by TTSA to work with Fox News and idiot republicans....

Congressman Mark Walker will be requesting info from the Pentagon about debris/metamaterials mentioned in the 2017 NYT article and will see additional info regarding AATIP.

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