Beyond Bigelow & BAASS, After AATIP and on To the Stars...

a reply to: moebius

Spy games indeed....I wonder how this ties back to TTSA...

a reply to: mirageman

Thanks MM! Very useful timeline.

I wonder who the spy games are for, though. If we're not falling for it, I feel pretty confident Chinese Intelligence or Russian Intelligence won't swallow it whole either.

Critical point....

If the storyline becomes one of “beware the Russian bear” (or Chinese dragon!) it screams 1980’s all over again. The public line back then was that Russia had immense arsenal of sophisticated weapons and Gov should spend more and more tax payer money on upgrading the capability of the West. Post USSR collapse it became apparent the story line was nonsense and the USSR was bankrupt. So perhaps that’s the game here, prime the pump with usual feet mongering, used to be nuclear weapons now it’s advanced technologies that you’re increased taxes will have to match!




a reply to: coursecatalog

a reply to: mirageman

The missing piece on that timeline is the start. 2007 the DOD investigates leaked footage from the Nimitz onto ATS.... Then hey presto ! (AAWSAP/AATIP) Begins 2007

Regarding Biggy Bobs, he became a billionaire yes, however big league property development will make you one if you grease the right palms, enter Harry Reid. The part that doesn't make sense is how do you get an aerospace contract with no forewarning of contract and no experience in aerospace contracting whatsoever, again enter Harry Reid....

In Vegas one thing for sure, people think its the Casinos who run the town, it's more so the big Property Developers in Summerlin, Henderson, Corporate buildings etc being a Land Baron takes constant palm greasing between politicians and their Donors.

On a side note of weirdness, so yesterday I mentioned Dr Bakers various patents for Gravitational wave propulsion from gravewave LLC...and lo and behold, yesterday evening on his Gravitational wave propulsion patent:

2019-06-29 Application status is Abandoned

patents.google.com...

Have we attracted a crowd ?
lol

Regarding these eerie patents, a few of us mentioned earlier they are about getting funding and geopolitics.
I stated yesterday the grants are to "build/not build" , meaning; no one is going to build this crap, it leads them to other aerospace contracts or biotech grants and contracts...
It matches the Bigelow model to an extent, hence the Skunks works dudes involvement and the Biotech/psych peoples involvement.... make the stuff for your own company not somebody else's.

There is no doubt several factions vying for funding and contracts, unlike lucky Bigelow who miraculously was the only team to apply for the 08 grant...
Let's remember that Silicone Valley (the Count Jaquesula crew to name one) has other teams working on 'exotic' tech.

It's a money grab in addition to a psy op. Am not sure on who the psy op is on, maybe the peeps (including congress) and/or our geo political foes/commie friends. TBH, I don't think there is a concerted effort between parties on the psy op/espionage side, they are all off doing their own thing and have no idea what team B or C are doing through sheer lack of departmental communications.

There is no DISCLOSURE coming, they will never ever ever release anything exotic if they have it, it's buried deeper than HR's head up RBs bottom. Podesta/Mellon trying to get at it but losing their chance served only to bury it deeper in 2017.

2020 will be ......

originally posted by: celltypespecific
I can't freaking believe this...

Pais has a science paper on the Tic-Tac in 2019..

Room Temperature Superconducting System for use on a Hybrid Aerospace-Undersea Craft

And further back in 1991
www.sae.org...

Interesting note from the timeline...

AATIP was formed the same year that the Tic-Tac video was released on ATS 2007

Of all the years that AATIP could have started it just happens to start the same year that a major leak of a UAP/UFO occurs on youtube and this site 2007..

originally posted by: celltypespecific
a reply to: coursecatalog

Yes coursecatalog as I have said a million times the TECH DOES EXIST and I have stated several times its not of ET origin.

I will have to repeat for the millionth time that I support the CORE of TTSA's message and have stated that some of individuals in TTSA are suspect..

Believe it or not an individual can hold complex subtle positions...not everything is black and white.

Same guy, Salvatore Paiz, quoted in US Navy patents also behind the below which, given one is in 1991,might lend more credence to the fact that the oft considered gravitational wave mechanism is reality ..... WOW!!!!!
profiles.sae.org...

IN PLAIN SIGHT...

Is this still going to happen...?

originally posted by: celltypespecific

IN PLAIN SIGHT...

It's hard to put that isolated message in context.

Is it a revelation that just dawned on him that he's the one along for the ride in TTSA?

Or he knew it all along and wanted to help the intelligence folks change the world?

Or it's a peek at the plot for his next fictional novel?

It must be the third one because I don't see how "covert" applies to the first two scenarios. Everybody knew they were intelligence people and they didn't try to hide it, so how is that covert?

originally posted by: Arbitrageur

originally posted by: celltypespecific

IN PLAIN SIGHT...

It's hard to put that isolated message in context.

Is it a revelation that just dawned on him that he's the one along for the ride in TTSA?

Or he knew it all along and wanted to help the intelligence folks change the world?

Or it's a peek at the plot for his next fictional novel?

It must be the third one because I don't see how "covert" applies to the first two scenarios. Everybody knew they were intelligence people and they didn't try to hide it, so how is that covert?

Should be noted that tweet is not recent - it's from October 2017

TDL mentions TFT's Video!!
This is before the NYT article in 2017...this is so interesting...

a reply to: Arbitrageur

Sorry about that...I am doing an analysis time line of his old tweets to determine if any statements in the past was predictive of future (our current present). The previous statement essentially states that TTSA is a GOV operation.
TDL has stated this repeated.

Ohh the irony ...

I am 95% convinced that TDL is lurking on this site....

I wish he would do a guess appearance and simply state exactly what his plans are.

a reply to: celltypespecific

LOL. You will have to use some of your skills .

originally posted by: celltypespecific
Interesting note from the timeline...

AATIP was formed the same year that the Tic-Tac video was released on ATS 2007
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Of all the years that AATIP could have started it just happens to start the same year that a major leak of a UAP/UFO occurs on youtube and this site 2007..

Or did it?

I've posted this back on p53. However I often find that many people are resistant to link clicking. So....

Here's what our hero Lue said at the MUFON conference last year....(this is one of his slides)



Please note it is says :

2007- DIA solicits contracts and BAASS is awarded the contract.

2008 - AAWSAP is formally changed to AATIP.

In August 2008 the AAWSAP Contract was put out to tender....

ADVANCED AEROSPACE WEAPON SYSTEM APPLICATIONS PROGRAM
Solicitation Number: HHM40208R0211
Agency: Other Defense Agencies
Office: Virginia Contracting Activity
Location: DIA Bolling AFB

Synopsis:
Added: Aug 18, 2008 1:53 am


Source

I would say that by the time formal bids were put in place and studied for suitability it would be 2009 before anything AAWSAP related could even begin.

So how could AATIP have began in 2007?

• Time Travel?
  
• A Parallel Universe was created by Hoff's consciousness
  
• Zondo Suffering Mandela Effect?
  
• Someone is telling lies
  

Occam products are probably the best for resolving these sort issues.

a reply to: jacksoo6

It's a complex & convoluted rabbit hole but there are some very interesting and apparently connected events when searching "Pandolphi" and "Gravitational Waves."

Everything from China to Stratfor to phenomenology to leaked emails to JASON to LIGO to CERN and even assertions that China may indeed be able to produce the kind of phenomena (not craft though) associated with the "tic tacs." Some Clinton stuff. Some Wikileaks publishing comes up separate from the most current "leaked emails" controversy. Spy vs Spy. Some of the dates seem to coincide with AAWSAP. Pandolphi vs Kit Green.

Here's another search:

Ten years later, China would be at the center of another technology
concern brought to Pandolfi's attention: the conversion of
electromagnetic microwaves to high frequency gravity waves.

Should anyone decide to accept that research mission...good luck in deciphering it and make of it what you will.

originally posted by: celltypespecific

IN PLAIN SIGHT...

When it seems too good to be true it’s usually because it’s horse #.

Leaning toward something akin to a ‘pump and dump’ scam per Wall Street but in this case it’s aimed at prompting fear to scalp more tax payer money for the MIC. Post the USSR demise and ISIS collapse they need another bogey man.

If they’ve hoxed the whole lot they should go to jail.

If it’s real but ours they should answer the court of public opinion as to why we’re still using fossil fuels and spending billions developing platforms that still use it.

Can’t help but recall words of former Skunk Works CEO .... didn’t he say we had the tech to ‘take ET home’?

Love this stuff to be off planet but it’s feeling a lot like ours and that pisses me off.