Venezuela National Guard OPEN FIRE on Aid Convoy

a reply to: pexx421

Right, and when we get our wall with automated machine gun turrets we won't have to worry about the caravans and the sleeper cells working for the communists and Islamic radicals embedded within.

I suppose with the news article provided above, this was a result of people trying to forcibly stop Maduro's loyalists from closing the border with Brazil.

Correct, this is the response I expect from many supporting the wall. And of course if you’re going to destabilize nation’s on your southern borders you need such walls to isolate you from the consequences of your actions. It amounts to this : “we don’t have to care about the nations and economies we are destroying, the millions of lives we end and ruin in our coups and wars for profit for the rich, because we will have a nice wall”.

I wonder how capable Venezuela's anti-air defence is?

a reply to: pexx421
Correct. Honestly we don't have to worry much even without the wall. Unless you want Russian bombers within strike range of our primary energy infrastructure, which from my understanding of the situation, is exactly what you want, Venezuela elected president Guido should be defended and supported.

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: pexx421
Correct. Honestly we don't have to worry much even without the wall. Unless you want Russian bombers within strike range of our primary energy infrastructure, which from my understanding of the situation, is exactly what you want, Venezuela elected president Guido should be defended and supported.

However you have to frame it to keep the idea of American exceptionalism.

We continue to make more enemies than friends by dictating agendas across the globe in areas that have done nothing to us.

Maybe Russia wouldn't have an interest in bombers there if we didn't push NATO right up to their border, alas, it doesn't matter. We know they are able to hit us without the Venezuela base, so your point doesn't carry much weight.

originally posted by: FlyingFox
I wonder how capable Venezuela's anti-air defence is?

The county is one of the few operators of the advanced S-300VM, the most capable Russian made specialised anti missile system relied on by Russian forces themselves as the best defence against enemy cruise missile attacks. This specialised S-300 variant was deployed to protect Russia's forces in Syria alongside the S-400, and exceeds the S-400 in its anti missile capabilities.

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The article lays out more platforms they possess, it wouldn't be an easy in and out though.

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Venezuelan Troops Kill One In First Bloodshed Linked To Aid Entry

February 22, 2019 By Carlos Suniaga and Nelson Bocanegra KUMARAKAPAY, Venezuela/CUCUTA, Colombia (Reuters) – Venezuelan troops killed at least one person and wounded several others on Friday near the Brazilian border, witnesses said, the first bloodshed linked to opposition efforts to bring aid into the South American country against the wishes of embattled President Nicolas Maduro. The killing came as fundraising concert for Venezuela – backed by British billionaire Richard Branson and featuring major Latin pop stars like Luis Fonsi and Maluma – kicked off in the Colombian frontier town of Cucuta, where the United States has been stockpiling aid to ship across the border this weekend.

Truly, from what I understand Russia already has diesel subs that are undetectable by our tech, and can be off our coast right now and we wouldn’t know.

a reply to: pexx421
We are talking conventional not nuclear strikes. I bet we could win the nuclear war too. There are no magic u detectable subs in the gulf of Mexico. Just more propaganda the Russians want our citizens to believe.

Buried at the end of this article on Zero Hedge is a claim I haven't heard before.

Apparently, the US government is now claiming that Cuba has deployed troops to Venezuela to support Maduro.

They've been claiming for a few weeks now that Russia has sent mercenaries to Venezuela to protect Maduro.

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: pexx421
We are talking conventional not nuclear strikes. I bet we could win the nuclear war too. There are no magic u detectable subs in the gulf of Mexico. Just more propaganda the Russians want our citizens to believe.

Quite possibly the stupidest comment I have Ever heard. You think we would win.... a nuclear war. I don’t think you have any clue at all what that means. You have just invalidated anything else you may have to say.

Double post

originally posted by: AndyFromMichigan
Buried at the end of this article on Zero Hedge is a claim I haven't heard before.

Apparently, the US government is now claiming that Cuba has deployed troops to Venezuela to support Maduro.

They've been claiming for a few weeks now that Russia has sent mercenaries to Venezuela to protect Maduro.

Yeah, that’s actually all true, I believe.

a reply to: pexx421


This is going to be interesting, Its too close to the American mainland. If the Cocaine prices remain stable it means that heaps of the stuff is easily getting into the US bypassing the people that are supposed to stop it. If Cocaine gets in then weapons can be got in as well. No matter that most of the governments in south America are patsies. Most of the South American population dislike the Gringos. So any invasion of Venezuela will be taken as a north American invasion of South America. Most of the South American population is poor and would have had socialist countries by now, and if any destabilisation occurs it could start of massive unrest in the whole hemisphere. Which could easily kick of a revolution of massive proportions.
The present set up of most South American military, requires poorly paid peasants obeying orders of well payed officers , good luck with that if things get hot.

Max blumenthall explores supermarket in Caracas to see devastating levels of deprivation of Venezuelan people

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a reply to: pexx421
I know we. Ould win a nuclear war. You think Russia is going to bomb cities?? The legit target are air Force bases, carrier strike groups, our refinery's, and maybe wall street. We have better anti ballistic missile. It does not matter that you do not take what I say with any worth, you know the Hawks in Washington, Virginia, and in the Rockies share this mindset.

a reply to: pexx421

Their diesel subs are older, and nowhere near undetectable. They have some really quiet nuclear subs, but still not up to our boats. The Akula II is about comparable to an LA class, which is quiet, but far from undetectable. They don't have any AIP boats, which are as close to undetectable as anything out there.

originally posted by: worldstarcountry
a reply to: pexx421
I know we. Ould win a nuclear war. You think Russia is going to bomb cities?? The legit target are air Force bases, carrier strike groups, our refinery's, and maybe wall street. We have better anti ballistic missile. It does not matter that you do not take what I say with any worth, you know the Hawks in Washington, Virginia, and in the Rockies share this mindset.

If there is a nuclear war we will all most likely die. Who wins? The group that does second???

a reply to: Zaphod58

You’re right, they’re not diesel. It’s the yasen-m and borey-a.

a reply to: pexx421

The Borei is their first boat that rivals a US nuclear sub in terms of noise. The Yasen is somewhere between an LA and a Seawolf. The Borei is the more dangerous, since it's an SSBN. Supposedly it's significantly quieter than a Virginia, but I have doubts about that.