12,980 years ago when TSHTF Big time.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: one4all

We are breaking new ground here Carpy.You should be proud to be connected to the disclosure even in an oppositionally defiant way..

Wow. That's quite some ego you've got there.

It is called generosity. If I was ego driven I would have been chipping away on Y.T a decade ago...I would have written ten books.....joined the "alternative community" and been on the "circuit" …...lol.

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

originally posted by: Box of Rain

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

Our Oceans are only 70 million years old, give or take.

So what's the deal with the fossils of sea creatures that are older than 70 million years? For example, shark fossils and other fish fossils from 300+ million years ago, or fossils of other undersea creatures from early in the dinosaur era.

There were 3 somewhat large bodies of water before 70 million years age. You can imagine aquatic life filled them. And, at times in the deep past there were other continent based seas that dried up.

Another possibility is that some of those ancient water beds may have been thrust upwards during the mountain building process's.

Later fossils found in Mountains could also be present in mountain areas due to the flood of 12,000 years ago. Because of the way the flood was produced, great amounts of mud and debris were pushed inland, that also contained ocean life forms.

You might want to learn a little about basic geological processes

a reply to: punkinworks10

You might want to learn a little about basic geological processes

Oh, you mean the highly controlled "Version" put out by the good old boy network, The Keepers of the Royal Goat Secrets??

Oh, I have studied their Version of science when it comes to Geology and decided to consider other options. If it works for you, keep it.

I would suggest Face Palm, at least then you might get the chance to open your eyes, and think for yourself.

Beginning @1:25:05......they discuss a VGCDW.....the VGCDW Model clearly illustrates where Antarctica came from ...what happened...and where it is going next. www.youtube.com...

a reply to: one4all

A David Wilcock video on Youtube. You can carry on gullibly believing snake oil salesman and their shonky Youtube fantasies if you like but no, thanks.

a reply to: All Seeing Eye

How is the science of Geology "highly controlled"? By whom and why?

a reply to: one4all

It is called generosity.

That's one word for it. Not the one I'd use, though.

You accused me of being a lazy poster. What is really lazy is you posting shonky Youtube videos in a lame attempt to back up your shonky claims which are actually just "beliefs".

Your "beliefs" are pretty much on a par with Flat Earth theories, but with even less "theory" to back them up. Which is quite an achievement.

a reply to: one4all

.I would have written ten books.....joined the "alternative community" and been on the "circuit" …...lol.

In order to write ten books you would need to have quite a bit of evidence to back up your claims. So far you have provided no evidence and what little you have managed to string together once the gibberish is filtered out probably would not fill up the back of a packet of fags.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: one4all

.I would have written ten books.....joined the "alternative community" and been on the "circuit" …...lol.

In order to write ten books you would need to have quite a bit of evidence to back up your claims. So far you have provided no evidence and what little you have managed to string together once the gibberish is filtered out probably would not fill up the back of a packet of fags.

Carpy ...if others are trying to find answers but you are trying to find problems what does that make you?...you might want to hedge your bets a little....because you wear your intentions on your sleeve....in another time and place skeptics who go far over the line are called something else.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: one4all

It is called generosity.

That's one word for it. Not the one I'd use, though.

You accused me of being a lazy poster. What is really lazy is you posting shonky Youtube videos in a lame attempt to back up your shonky claims which are actually just "beliefs".

Your "beliefs" are pretty much on a par with Flat Earth theories, but with even less "theory" to back them up. Which is quite an achievement.

Carpy are you one of those people who come to ATS to get ideas?...you know to write books and do videos and try to make you way?....because you act like someone is stepping on your grass pal.....lol....you ride far beyond healthy skepticisim .

a reply to: one4all

The motto of this site is "Deny ignorance", which is all that I am doing with you.

Got anything other than shonky Youtube videos?

Well done for completing one whole post without a single irritating "lol" at yourself, though. Credit where it's due. Keep it up.

a reply to: one4all

.in another time and place skeptics who go far over the line are called something else.

Like what, exactly?

a reply to: one4all

Do you really think that simply asking you to back up your wild claims that fly in the face of established scientific knowledge with some evidence makes me some sort of super skeptic? Is that really crossing a line?

You don't get to draw those lines on here, by the way.

Still waiting for anything to back up your claims and as I said at the outset, shonky Youtube videos do not really count.

10 pages in and that's all you've got. That, and laughably lame excuses.

originally posted by: one4all
Beginning @1:25:05......they discuss a VGCDW.....the VGCDW Model clearly illustrates where Antarctica came from ...what happened...and where it is going next. www.youtube.com...

Putting David and Linda aside, because they seem to be selling something with no foundation. Hearsay, rumors, insiders, is not very convincing. And in the same breath, I can not rule out what they share. By this time we should be seeing first hand videos of structures and technology would be expected.

What I have noticed is that Antarctica was actually connected to South America, so the part about the Antarctic ruins looked more Inca than Egyptian does make sense. I haven't watched the entire video, yet.

At one time in the past, and I suspect prior to the flood, you could walk to Antarctica from South America. It is possible that Isolating Antarctica from South America was done at the same time, during the initiation of the flood. Two Birds with one stone.

a reply to: All Seeing Eye

Would you mind answering my earlier question?

How is the science of Geology "highly controlled"? By whom and why?

Thanks.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: All Seeing Eye

Would you mind answering my earlier question?

How is the science of Geology "highly controlled"? By whom and why?

Thanks.

If you have done nothing but "study" the Status Que Geology, and History, and believe "Their" Version of it, and believe their are no other explanations to explain the world we live on, then you might be inclined, to follow that belief system.

So, what good will it do in exposing history, documented history, that contradicts today's Geological Belief system?? And yes, it is a system.

Again, a fatal flaw in our Education System is it is taught, one way. It is not explored intellectually, and open mindedly. Students are not allowed to challenge those beliefs. That mindset keeps new discoveries locked up and hidden in secret archives such as the Vatican Vaults. Do not rock the boat.

By whom and why??

Shaky Ground here, for sure.

Lets start with, say, "Enki's lost Book". Lets say it is actually Real. It predates the bible by some 10000 years. Now to get a more accurate reading of our ancient history, would we not want the oldest recorded version??

In this book, Enkis version, he states the Secrets of heaven and earth will be kept from mankind. Enlil, Enki's Brother has his own scribe,I suspect to be Enoch. And it was Enlil who initiated the Great Flood, who wanted to destroy mankind.

At any rate, that seems to be the oldest mention of "Keeping Secrets" from mankind. For what the "Secrets" are, that, is the beginning of the "Rabbit's Hole".

At this point its all about the "THEORY" of Subduction. What function does this theory actually accomplish? It, the "theory", that keeps the planet from expanding! And whats so important about keeping the planet the same size? A solid planet, can not expand, think ball bearing.

But Subduction, as a theory, is not based on observations. No one has ever seen the earths crust slide under another continent. The Theory of subduction is not just bad science, its science fiction. Its fiction that "They" go to great lengths to enforce. Science must start with the observation, not the "theory".........

Now, if you are of a mind to do your own research into the subject, and stop believing the real fairy tales, study the real observational science at the bottom of the oceans. Specifically, study the ages of those beds, before they are removed from the history books. It exposes the expansion of our planet, and as I said, solid planets, can not expand.

The conclusion of this research will expose Enki's secrets...........

But if you choose to consider Enki's book to be nothing but fiction, carry on.....................

You can chooses to deny ignorance, or, you can choose to defy, ignorance, the choice is yours.......................................

a reply to: All Seeing Eye

So, to summarise, you know better than the whole sum of geological scientific knowledge. You are right and everyone else are ignorant sheep.

Can you explain the Pacific Ring of Fire according to your beliefs?

originally posted by: All Seeing Eye

originally posted by: one4all
Beginning @1:25:05......they discuss a VGCDW.....the VGCDW Model clearly illustrates where Antarctica came from ...what happened...and where it is going next. www.youtube.com...

Putting David and Linda aside, because they seem to be selling something with no foundation. Hearsay, rumors, insiders, is not very convincing. And in the same breath, I can not rule out what they share. By this time we should be seeing first hand videos of structures and technology would be expected.

What I have noticed is that Antarctica was actually connected to South America, so the part about the Antarctic ruins looked more Inca than Egyptian does make sense. I haven't watched the entire video, yet.

At one time in the past, and I suspect prior to the flood, you could walk to Antarctica from South America. It is possible that Isolating Antarctica from South America was done at the same time, during the initiation of the flood. Two Birds with one stone.

I believe they are simply outlets for TPTB...passionate....involved...but dupes....and IMHO they know it but realise its how things must be done right now,plus I am sure they make a few sheckles along their ways .

Google Earth has changed everything,melting ice now reveals things we can SEE....without Satellite imagery being in the public domain we would remain ignorant for as long as TPTB want .... in this case they have no choice....simply because Antarctica is VIRTUALLY PERFECT IN ITS FROZEN STATE and is being revealed more and more daily.....everything was inundated then flash frozen so you can probably still eat the steaks .... I expected videos sooner but there is already a lot of so-called "whistleblowers"(TPTB intentional releases) leaking their stories out as is the usual process.

Canada used to be where Antarctica is now....and we can see by looking at Canadas landscape what happens when the ice suddenly melts...and believe me it SUDDENLY MELTS when the Continent is slid to the Equatorial warmth.

Soon Antarctica will be in a more temperate zone.Man if I could tell you about the gold and minerals that are waiting to be collected....jeezuz....an because everything is frozen insitu and erosion has not had a chance to re-arrange things.....you can literally simply go to the already sorted and classified PILES.....its redonkulous....the sheer volumes in such small areas.

But then again,Canada is also covered in ruins that can be found JUST BELOW the surface...and the volume of available insitu under-exploited resources located there is also staggering.

Personally there is IMHO no time to waste in preparing for the survival of others... I have devoted 110% of my time and resources to doing just that.....not really for myself but for SOMEONE who will ultimately be much more important to the human races future than I am.....their battle will be epic and survival level.....I consider most of us who are breathing today to be CONDUITS to an uncertain future ...nothing more...and if I had one wish it would be that more people realised this and lived their lives accordingly. Situational Dynamics say that I am now allowed to acess these resources with current intentions....so I am doing so....I requested 10 lbs of gold from the Universe to accomplish my tasks....I didn't receive any gold....just the location of thousands of tonnes of it.....the ten pounds is now a non-issue....only time is and logistics are an issue.I cannot acess it but what I believe is the worlds single largest classified and deposited volume of gold is located in Canada and it has been intentionally hidden from the masses....it simply could not be hidden from my VGCDW Model.Looks to me like no one will be seeing that Gold till next time round...but whoever knows where it is will likely rule the Planet if they can get the next cycle of Humanity to learn what mono-atomic gold does for us and if they can somehow prevent the off-Planet trade in it....both things we failed to accomplish this time around.

originally posted by: oldcarpy
a reply to: All Seeing Eye

So, to summarise, you know better than the whole sum of geological scientific knowledge. You are right and everyone else are ignorant sheep.

Can you explain the Pacific Ring of Fire according to your beliefs?

NOPE he can not

I happen to live where I can see the results of long term geological processes in action. I can go thirty miles west and look at 70 million year old sea floor, in situ where it has been uplifted and folded, then I can go thirty miles east and see 3 million year old lava flows over the top of ancient seafloor and I can go to the top of an 10,000' foot tall mountain(Spanish Mtn0, there is a 4wd trail to the top that cuts through tens of millions of years of fossil deposits laid down in ancient(200-300 million years old sea beds, before being up lifted by the Sierra batholith(giant granite block 400 miles long x 120 miles wide and 18? miles thick.
But i guess my own expewrience lies to me

The science of Geology LIKE ALL SCIENCES and most ARTS are controlled via the relationship between the Peer Approval Method of vetting data and the Publishing Houses that control data release to the public....TPTB own the Publishing Houses and the Companies that donate hundreds of billions of dollars to Learning Institutions GLOBALLY so they may influence curriculums ....this is a GLOBAL con-job.TPTB indirectly pay the salaries of every scientist alive today....they also CONTROL what is taught in places of higher learning.....so they are involved in manipulating Humanity LONG BEFORE THE PROFESSIONAL has even graduated and begun any research at all ,when they do they are graduated into an artificially machined globally bastardised process.....yes they do not all understand the dynamics surrounding how they get to where they end up.....but at the end of the day its the pay that drives them to where they need to be put by TPTB.

The majority of the data validating and substanciating the VGCDW Model is MAINSTREAM DATA...that has been bastardised...I use their data to validate my Model...get it...I learn their research at the highest levels then I simply pinpoint their departure points where they bastardise and intentionally misuse data...the DATA TELLS ME WHEN THEY DO IT BECAUSE I USE PATTERN RECOGNITION.So because most of the data is GENUINELY COLLECTED ..but then later Bastardised by TPTB...all I need to do is skim the current cutting edge data then reverse extrapolate... BINGO....every departure point for TPTB becomes a valid beginning for me.....they.....made it easy for me to basically auto-correct their misdirections to find their departure points from the TRUTH....yup....like a human lie detector....but its simply pattern recognition.