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Originally posted by pepsi78
The intensity of gamma from the moon shown in gamma spectrum light
is way above just when you lok at it.
it does not compare to earth , mars and many other places.
He sais that nuclear reactions hapen all the time.
The earth does not alow particles to hit the grownd and not just any how at near the speed of light.
Unfortunate for him he does not know what speed has to do with the procces of a cosmic ray hiting the moon.
If the particles would travel at the speed of light in the x-ray machine
it would generate radiation levels that the human body cant resist.
What is a solar storm?
Charged comic rays
You said none of the images have a scale on them, so then how do you know the scale between the Moon, Earth, Mars, etc is the same? That doesn't make much sense!
Get a Geiger Counter. Turn it on. The clicks you hear every so often, do you know what they are? Cosmic background radiation! So it does hit the ground, and it is moving at the speed of light. Not to mention there are particles called neutrinos that can blast directly through you, the Earth, several meters of lead, and someone else for good measure and keep on moving like it's nothing at all! Now I be THAT blows your mind, doesn't it?
X-rays are a wavelength of light. What speed does that mean they travel at? Why, the speed of light! Amazing, isn't it?
HAHA! I seriously am beginning to think you're just here to spite us all. Really now, at least put in some research!
Originally posted by pepsi78
Okay
Just simply compare them to earths and to mars
If particles that contains nucleus the cosmic ray particle would pass within the atmosere and hit the ground we would all die
You can say gamma is x-ray with a single difrence, the energy level.
The x ray machine produces x-rays simply cause the particles in the machine dont travel very fast so it produces a lower energy level.
I welcome you to go study it.
I cant wait for you to give me the detail so i can prove you rong
So please provide details.
You can't! You said yourself that on the images there is no scale. So who are you to say that the scale between the images is the same?
Some make it down to Earth. Despite the density of the atmosphere, to some extent something is making it down. What else would make the Geiger Counter click then, eh? It's the Cosmic Background Radiation!
Gamma rays are a type of light. X-rays are a type of light. Yes, they may have different energies, but they are still travelling at the same speed. What speed is that? The speed of light. It's a constant for a reason!
I'll provide details just as soon as you do, bucko. And trust me, I actually have them!
Yes, all electromagnetic radiation -- from radio waves to x-rays -- travel at the speed of light. In empty space this speed is approximately 300,000 kilometers per second!
X-rays are very high frequency waves, and carry a lot of energy. They will pass through most substances, and this makes them useful in medicine and industry to see inside things.
X-rays are given off by stars, and strongly by some types of nebula.
An X-ray machine works by firing a beam of electrons at a "target". If we fire the electrons with enough energy, X-rays will be produced.
X-rays are used by doctors to see inside people. They pass easily through soft tissues, but not so easily through bones. We send a beam of X-Rays through the patient and onto a piece of film, which goes dark where X-Rays hit it. This leaves white patches on the film where the bones were in the way.
www.darvill.clara.net...
Background Radiation: Naturally occurring radiation is always present, it includes high energy gamma rays from the sun and outer space and alpha, beta, and gamma radiation emitted from elements in the earth
www.seintl.com...
The applications of gamma radiation are much the same as those of X rays, both in medicine and in industry. In medicine, gamma ray sources are used for cancer treatment and for diagnostic purposes. Some gamma-emitting radioisotopes are also used as tracers (see radioactive isotope).www.infoplease.com...
Zond 5 was launched from a Tyazheliy Sputnik (68-076B) in earth parking orbit to make scientific studies during a lunar flyby and to return to Earth. En route to the Moon the main stellar attitude control optical surface became contaminated and was rendered unusable. Backup sensors were used to guide the spacecraft. On September 18, 1968, the spacecraft flew around the Moon. The closest distance was 1,950 km. High quality photographs of the Earth were taken at a distance of 90,000 km. A biological payload of turtles, wine flies, meal worms, plants, seeds, bacteria, and other living matter was included in the flight. Additionally, according to the Russian Academy of Sciences, in the pilot's seat was a 175 cm tall, 70 kg mannequin containing radiation detectors. Returning to Earth another attitude control sensor failed, making the planned guided entry impossible and forcing the spacecraft controllers to use a direct ballistic entry. On September 21, 1968, the reentry capsule entered the Earth's atmosphere, braked aerodynamically, and deployed parachutes at 7 km. The capsule splashed down in the backup area in the Indian Ocean at 32.63 degrees S, 65.55 degrees E and was successfully recovered, safely returning the biological payload. It was announced that the turtles (steppe tortoises) had lost about 10% of their body weight but remained active and showed no loss of appetite. The spacecraft was planned as a precursor to crewed lunar spacecraft. It represented the first successful Soviet circumlunar mission.
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LLRV no. 1, piloted by Neil Armstrong, crashed in May 1968 when the helium pressurization system for the steering jets failed, leaving Armstrong no way to control the vehicle. This was not because the vehicle was too unstable to control, or because Armstrong was a poor pilot. This is like driving your car down the freeway and having the steering wheel come off in your hands. You will crash in that situation, and it's not because cars (in general) can't be steered -- it's because a mechanical failure caused your car to lose control in that particular instance.
There were two other crashes: two of the LLTVs crashed, one in December 1968 and the other in January 1971. These too were caused by technical failures. They used state-of-the-art fly-by-wire technology, and it did not always work perfectly. This is why the vehicles were equipped with ejection seats.
By April 1966 the LLRV had already performed more than 100 successful flights (Fig. 2). Conspiracists generally refer only to Armstrong's crash and imply that this was the typical outcome of an LLRV flight. On the contrary, the typical outcome was a safe, successful landing. A fleet of experimental aircraft that can perform hundreds of times over several years with only three serious crashes is not inherently dangerous, unstable, or unflyable. To imply otherwise is to ignore a great deal of fact.
It is important to understand that these vehicles were not built as prototypes for the lunar module. A prototype is built to test the technology that will go into the final version, whether everything fits together, and to determine how it can be built on an assembly line. The LLTVs and LLRVs were built to reproduce for the pilot, as best as could be determined in advance, the "feel" of flying the lunar module using whatever ad hoc technology had to be included to do that in an earth environment.
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When the LLRVs arrived at Houston, where research pilots would learn how to become LLTV instructor pilots, No. 2 had been flown just 7 times while No. 1, the veteran, had a total of 198 flights. In December 1967, the first of the LLTVs joined the FRC's LLRVs to eventually make up the five-vehicle training and simulator fleet.
Three of the five vehicles were later destroyed in crashes at Houston—LLRV No. 1 in May 1968 and two LLTVs, in December 1968 and January 1971.
The two accidents in 1968, before the first lunar landing, did not deter Apollo program managers who enthusiastically relied on the vehicles for simulation and training.
Donald "Deke" Slayton, then NASA's astronaut chief, said there was no other way to simulate a moon landing except by flying the LLTV.
www.nasa.gov...
Originally posted by 4for4
Not really adding much to the thread, just saying that I admire the patience of AgentSmith, Halfofone and the others. I couldn't even read the whole thread!
Originally posted by pepsi78
That the faster the particle moves the biger the efect would be .
Particles made here in acelerators are far lamer than the one's out there
and are difrent go see it if you dont belive me.
And this site explains you some facts
Cosmic Rays
A gamma ray is a gamma ray is a gamma ray. My point? It doesn't matter how they're made, they're still the same!
Originally posted by pepsi78
How difrent they are in energy will only be established by the particle that creates them.
I know i am right, but if you dont accept it that is realy okay.
Originally posted by pepsi78
But at the production level a x-ray will never beat a gamma ray at the point where it is produced.
so you can have a x-ray stronger than gamma only after it has passed a wall shielding and not before
Below is a quote from Wiki, with Bold for emphesis
Gamma rays form the highest-energy end of the electromagnetic spectrum. They are often defined to begin at an energy of 10 keV, a frequency of/ 2.42 EHz, or a wavelength of/ 124 pm, although electromagnetic radiation from around 10 keV to several hundred keV is also referred to as hard X rays. It is important to note that there is no physical difference between gamma rays and X rays of the same energy — they are two names for the same electromagnetic radiation, just as sunlight and moonlight are two names for visible light. Rather, gamma rays are distinguished from X rays by their origin. Gamma ray is a term for high-energy electromagnetic radiation produced by nuclear transitions, while X ray is a term for high-energy electromagnetic radiation produced by energy transitions due to accelerating electrons. Because it is possible for some electron transitions to be of higher energy than some nuclear transitions, there is an overlap between what we call low energy gamma rays and high energy X-rays.
Originally posted by pepsi78
tecnical dificulties
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