Strange Area In Photograph

Just trying to confirm Biosphere are real.

Humboldt crater was a Biosphere but was possibly destroyed during that cataclysm that occurred 65 million years ago?

files.abovetopsecret.com...

originally posted by: lunarrover
a reply to: ArMaP

Is that enough of a shift for it not to be in the image ? just a bit?

It's a question of perspective. How far away are those mountains in the background?
If the camera moved in the direction it was pointing on the first photo then the LEM would disappear to the left of the frame.

the images I posted came from a national news

I thought they came from NASA.

originally posted by: lunarrover
Humboldt crater was a Biosphere ...

Why? You spoke of evidence some posts ago, so it would be a good idea if you post your evidence for each claim you make.

So, is there any evidence? If there is, post it, if there is not then say it like it is, that you believe that it was a Biosphere, not that it was.

a reply to: ArMaP

They did come from NASA because I added the links in but sa it a while back in a news paper. I just found it mildly intriguing that's all.

I know part of the problem for me is scale because there are no landmarks that we can use as a reference point. I am sure I am not alone in that regard.

a reply to: ArMaP

Of course, because really I dont know what anything on the moon is, what else could a massive glass looking dome be? It reminds me of a super advanced eden project type structure but without the frame work. Anything arch or round like that would be incredibly strong because of the way weight distribution works. Humboldt looks like it has a jagged glass footing like it was smashed but thats just me

originally posted by: lunarrover
a reply to: ArMaP

Is that enough of a shift for it not to be in the image ? just a bit?
the images I posted came from a national news

If I look directly outside my front door, I see the house across the street with some mountains a few miles in the background.

If I instead look out of the front door of my neighbor who lives three houses down from me, I can still see the same mountains (they look virtually unchanged), but a the house across the street from me now is totally different than the one I can see out my front door.

a reply to: Soylent Green Is People
Sounds nice, I live in the city where anything that remotely resembles a mountain has been concreted over.

a reply to: lunarrover

Besides scale, there's another problem: we are looking at a 2D representation of a 3D landscape, so we are losing one dimension.

I found an interesting image on the Apollo Lunar Surface Journal, here:



The photo that shows the LM was taken near the LM, slightly to the northwest, some 120 metres away, on what was called "Station 8".

The photo without the LM was taken on "Station 9", that you can see to the west of the LM. I couldn't find the meaning of the "1.4" under the line representing the route from the LM to Station 9, but I think it's the distance between points in kilometres. If that's true then the second photo was taken some 2.2 (1.4 + 0.8) km away from the spot where the first photo was taken, but the most interesting part is the contour lines.

You can see that the legend says "contour interval 10 meters", and that the LM is at an altitude of approximately 4690. We can also see that Station 9 is at an altitude of almost 4700, but the area between Station 9 and the LM has an altitude of 4720, so there was a slight hill between Station 9, where the "no LM" photo was taken and the LM site, so it's no surprise the LM was not visible from that point.

a reply to: ArMaP

OK

Can you recommend an app to do the image flipping trick with because I want to use it on these 2 pictures and I think OBMT doesn't want to tell me.





That would look radical if I could get them to flip.

a reply to: lunarrover

I use GIMP for most of my image editing. It's open source and very good, although it may be a little difficult to understand in some aspects.

a reply to: ArMaP

I like GIMP, some of the plugins are great.

Good call.

Check it out.

a reply to: lunarrover

Is that supposed to mean something or did you post it just because you could?

a reply to: ArMaP

Not everything is a subliminal secret messages mate, there is no hidden meaning, it is blatantly obvious. I found a great way to do the comparison of images like our friend OBMT does to give the impression that I am adept image editor with expert knowledge, I refuse to post utter tripe and do the Jedi mind trick, that would be a step too far. I don't get why people start howling when pictures of the moon get posted? Also there is an insane level of hostility surrounding it? very odd, it does not make sense? what are people afraid of?

Am I allowed to question this or is this Ipcress territory as well?

originally posted by: lunarrover
Am I allowed to question this or is this Ipcress territory as well?

You can question any thing, it's not the questioning part that's the problem, it's the way it's done.

PS: what's an "Ipcress"?

Most likely because you make very long single threads covering multiple areas of the Moon, instead of creating a new thread for different areas.

After a while, member's here have their eyes glaze over. Call it "input overload".

A new thread about a different area would allow you to expand upon what area it is you're covering. What it is you think you've found. How you went about finding it, with each new OP.

That sort of happened with the Mars Rock threads. When the MSL first landed on Mars, we were getting all sorts of new threads by multiple members covering different "rocks" on Mars that people though were anything but rocks. Each new thread tended to generate a lot of disussion.

Over time however, the threads ended up being consolidated into one large Mars Rock thread.....which pretty much killed discussion, as most members here really don't want to sift through a really long (sometimes hundreds of pages) thread.

Mega threads on here tend to have a few dedicated followers and people that contribute new things to it, with the occasional comment by one or 2 others.

a reply to: lunarrover

Nobody is howling. Pointing out that there is nothing there is not a Jedi mind trick, it's pointing out that there is nothing there. Your image comparison doesn't show anything other than what happens to a photograph when it is badly processed. What gets people annoyed is insisting there is something there when every single piece of available evidence says otherwise.

a reply to: OneBigMonkeyToo

Until you recognise the blocks on Crooks and the nuts and bolts/pillars and gromets in the red spot you may as well stay out of it.

a reply to: ArMaP

It was a reference to a 1965 film where scientists would disappear then turn up a few days later not knowing very much about anything at all so they send in Harry "Not a lot of people know that?" Palmer to investigate.