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originally posted by: daskakik
a reply to: AgarthaSeed
I honestly don't know what to say. You asked for an example of digging dirt on opposing politicians by government bodies and Q fits that.
You trying to justify it is what I am calling out.
originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
For the 3rd time, thats not the example i was asking you for. Our disagreement is in the idea that the 2 situations are similar and that justification is even up for discussion in the vein of "what's good for the goose.."
Rig an election? They tried to dig up some dirt on Trump. That is politics as usual.
The cia doj and fbi under the direction of Obama?
Fine but it is not a coup.
It also isn't proof that it isn't SOP in DC.
originally posted by: dashen
a reply to: daskakik
It's a coup .
Even if it isnt it is still a coup
originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: FataMorgana
Is that just your interpretation or can you link me to more information that clearly defines the difference between a full and partial coup? It's seems that a full coup is more or less exactly what is overthrown that requires it to be successful.
There really are no hard definitions. If you look at wiki you see that it wasn't until 2016 that a study tried to establish 4 types.
A 2016 study categorizes coups into four possible outcomes:[17]
* Failed coup
* No regime change, such as when a leader is illegally shuffled out of power without changing the identity of the group in power or the rules for governing
* Replacement of incumbent dictatorship with another
* Ouster of the dictatorship followed by democratization (also called "democratic coups")[21]
Full or partial would just be adjectives invoking their common use.
Full or partial would just be adjectives invoking their common use.
originally posted by: FataMorgana
Sounds familiar.
Adjectives that serve no purpose in this case.
Sure does but that is just what that one study proposed.
Sure they do. It identifies the differences between a complete regime change and the outcome you pointed out above.
originally posted by: dashen
actually he said very high technology is being used to regulate her daily functions
originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: dashen
It's a coup .
Even if it isnt it is still a coup
even if it isn't?
You can have the mental gymnastics medal back
Should have just stuck with witch-hunt.
originally posted by: daskakik
originally posted by: AgarthaSeed
For the 3rd time, thats not the example i was asking you for. Our disagreement is in the idea that the 2 situations are similar and that justification is even up for discussion in the vein of "what's good for the goose.."
But that is what I said in the original post.
Rig an election? They tried to dig up some dirt on Trump. That is politics as usual.
To which dashen replied:
The cia doj and fbi under the direction of Obama?
I then said:
Fine but it is not a coup.
It also isn't proof that it isn't SOP in DC.
You then jumped in and asked for an example. Following the flow of the discussion it would be an example of a gov body digging dirt up on opposing politicians. Q fits that description.