What to expect if the 9/11 truth bomb does drop

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: InhaleExhale

If he or you were interested in further discussion on specific points, I would be happy to play along for the sake of discussion.

People are more than willing to engage you in discussing specific points. Just waiting for you to drop the hammer........

Seems you are here just to make snide remarks, then running? You avoid actual debate of evidence?

a reply to: firerescue

FBI and CIA were too wrapped up in their own agenda to care

exactly or that is how its painted for the public.

Yet these agencies still have free reign and have increased their power.

It almost seems like based on the on goings that are known about that there were intentional stops to try and investigate certain threats.

Now there is more co-operation to make the US safe but at what cost?

US citizens are allowed to be killed by their own military without trial.

To me, the image portrayed of the world via official and unofficial media has gone mad, more and more extremism and division that to me seems in a way manufactured from behind the scenes with real extremism and hate as the result with events like 9/11 playing a large roll to make that possible. It could be coincidental or just opportunistic plays by certain powers that has created where we are but with all the intelligence available to those that make the big moves when the chance arises there must be foresight, its a chess game that is a little more complex but still the likely outcomes are ignored because there is too much money to be made and too much power to be gained or held onto.

Its been US foreign policy to create on going war with large corporations backing this as those involved stay in power and those financing keep making money.

With enough of a delusional mindset one could argue its always been like this, nowadays its not as much for land or resources as it may have been in the past when the British were creating their empire but more to control minds of the populations of nations which could entail any number of things, one main one being consumerism in my opinion.

Massive corporations want to have every country in the world consume products like the US does.


Many poorer countries now do so compared to only a few decades ago.

The massive pushes to gather populations into cities can easily be shown to benefit the populations but in reality its more so those that are in control that gain from this.

Its easier to herd the sheep when they are in an enclosed environment.


To me, way too much deception has been put on the public from sources that tell us they are here to help, protect and give us truth.

If there are no shills on ATS and everybody that debates 9/11 or anything else on these boards then it shows how confused humanity or communities of like minded people are.

Yes there is always division, its human nature that maybe we cannot evolve past which I believe we can but are manipulated not to, what I am saying is over the millennia of us being able to reason with our growing intelligence, one would think more unity would be found when instead its more division.


NO wonder there so much confusion, look at my rambling post.

I guess the more we know, the more can be used to divide each other.

I lived outside Washington, DC in a smaller town at the time of these events. People were kept in constant chaos and panic so no one could think straight for the following year there. Anthrax and then sniper attacks.... Some Sterling VA postal worker who lived in my town got anthrax and was too poor to pay for the Cipro pills. We saw army guys in helicopters flying low over our property fifty miles out from DC with machine guns leaning out patrolling. Planes were grounded for three days. It was so creepy. Every time we went to orange alert in USA security all these police were in our town. A police lady with a gun was in Targets store during the Anthrax scares era. The mail lady daily had a face mask on with gloves putting mail in our mailbox. We just left the mail down there for two weeks. Then we opened it all out side and burned it off with the garbage. All the catalogues and magazines burnt off. Just insides of bills came in the house. People were flying American flags on their cars. We were all glued to the TV set for days and nights.

My child who has a master degree in civil engineering, said after the first tower fell the others fell due to the ground shaking like an earth quake. It's that simple. That plane in Pennslyvania was shot down by our air force most likely, the plane went down in the middle of now where and was strewn over 14 miles. I have driven through there to go back Ohio many times. It most likely blew up in the air. The plane that went into the pentagon does not look like a plane. No photographs ever seen of plane parts. Where did the missing melted gold go from the towers? Why was a truck stuck underneath it in the tunnels? Where is that three trillion missing dollars Donald Rumsfeld mentioned in his public speech?

That current Dick Cheney movie portrayed him as 100% human evil, and he worked for/with Bush. I couldn't stand to watch that film. So evil and gross. 911 was all unbelievable. Some people at the Pentagon like my third cousin who is 26 years older than me was not in his office or the building during the attacks. He retired and moved away to the opposite side of the country later. Then there was that phycist/ forensic lady who wrote a book on the energy directed at the building and the opposite side of vehicles facing the towers showed no damage. It was a weird thing to hear. She lost her job over that controversial book. There are so many things that were so disturbing we moved away on purpose right back to the Midwest, where people were acting like nothing happened much. Kentucky. Then we got to see all the army men leave the area for war. All kinds of Military planes flew over our house to land in the small private airport. The Presidents plane landed there during the 911 event that day. Two years later we moved away again, then my husband wanted to move back to Bowling Green, Kentucky. The first funeral happened for an army solider while I was house hunting. The procession went by and it was a hour wait to get moving in the car again. That was a huge historic American moment I witnessed live. I think we are all unaware of the whole larger event and all the ripple effects on everyone.

originally posted by: frugal


My child who has a master degree in civil engineering, said after the first tower fell the others fell due to the ground shaking like an earth quake. It's that simple.

Are they not aware that WTC7 was hit by the collapsing North tower and burned uncontrolled for 7 hours? That may have something to do with the collapse

No photographs ever seen of plane parts.

Apart from the photographs available to find online of course

Where is that three trillion missing dollars Donald Rumsfeld mentioned in his public speech?

Nowhere, it isn't missing

originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: kwakakev

i once listened to two hours of airdefense-communication while the attacks happens. and what i learned it was pure chaos and no one knows what exactly to do. the reason for the collaps of the towers still remains a mistery but there was one explantion i cannot recall exactly but it was a chemical thing because of the tons of molten aluminium in reaction with fire/heat...

Aluminum melts at 1218 f and iron melts at 2200 f. Cast iron can be used for extrusion molds. The vaporizatuon temp of aluminum is 2467 c and the temperatures would not have gotten that high. Where is this "chemical" reaction if there even is one? All that is left is oxidization and in an inferno, oxygen tends to be a consumed commodity by the inferno.

Cheers - Dave

originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: oldcarpy


Yes, silly for its simplicity, in the style of Occam thanks very much.

Have you managed to answer your own question? Why did the third building fall down at free fall rate?

Old Billy wouild be spinning in his grave at you dreaming up nukes when a simple gravity driven collapse can explain the events

Yeah sure, simple gravity driven. Funny

a reply to: InhaleExhale

If you can formulate an intelligent question on a specific element of the narrative, I'd be happy to talk about it with you.

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: InhaleExhale

If you can formulate an intelligent question on a specific element of the narrative, I'd be happy to talk about it with you.

If you could actually formulate a theory of collapse for WTC 1,2, and 7 that is not based on truth movement smoke, mirrors, and pseudoscience you wouldn’t be debating totally debunk truth movement fantasies.

You are the one saying people are wrong with no actual evidence provided. Is that a false statement?

a reply to: Salander

By the way, how is the AE backed WTC 7 Evaluation project coming along. The university website still has April 2018 as the release date.

The study that was going to put the screws to people who provied fire related collapse was the most credible theory? The study that is now two years past its original release goal set in 2015?

Seems it has gone the path of Jones releasing his WTC dust for actual testing of thermite reactions, which was never conducted, and independent verification?

Or Mark Basile's study that was going to prove thermite which has gone over 50 months with no released results.

The grand jury petition is based on the theory of thermite, is that false. The lawyers Committee that submitted the petition claims studies that show proof of thermite. I am confused. So what credible study are they referring to that completed the discovery process and had its results independently verified?

Are the lawyers committee referring to studies that people donated money to, but the results where never released. It seems money was donated and taken under false pretexts?

I supposed that by the time the 9/11 "truth bomb" hits, we'll all be sentient robots.

originally posted by: Salander

originally posted by: mrthumpy

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: oldcarpy


Yes, silly for its simplicity, in the style of Occam thanks very much.

Have you managed to answer your own question? Why did the third building fall down at free fall rate?

Old Billy wouild be spinning in his grave at you dreaming up nukes when a simple gravity driven collapse can explain the events

Yeah sure, simple gravity driven. Funny

Can you think of anything else that would make the buildings collapse to the ground?

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: InhaleExhale

If he or you were interested in further discussion on specific points, I would be happy to play along for the sake of discussion.

Still waiting on you to make good on this post.......

originally posted by: Salander
a reply to: InhaleExhale

If you can formulate an intelligent question on a specific element of the narrative, I'd be happy to talk about it with you.

What a joke.

page 6, first post.

will you address those questions?

That is the only question I am asking.

a reply to: InhaleExhale

Page 6, first post is by NF, and typically inane because of it.

I'm not claiming to know exactly who planned and executed the attacks in tiny details IE. I know only that the official narrative is bogus. It is invalid. It defies common sense and the laws of physics.

I rather thought that you would be unable to formulate an intelligent question, and I was right.

a reply to: Salander

It defies common sense and the laws of physics.

What about the thermal stress induced collapse of WTC 1, 2, and 7 violated the laws of physics.

All three building collapses are on video.

You mean like a supposed nuclear bomb detonation in the basement that generated no P and S waves, created no detectable audio of an explosion with the force to cut steel, introduced no increases in background radiation, did not breach the slurry walls around the WTC foundations, left the bases of the core columns still standing in the bedrock, and somehow initiated collapse some 70 stories above ground with no visible shockwave running up the buildings.

Nothing.

Just going to drop this here. Is this painted aluminium belonging to flight 93? This photo was taken at the crash site.

You can see separate colours- light blue, red, grey and blue.




Take a hard look at flight 93 colours. Very dark blue, some red and grey.

The two blues are not the same colour I can find any light blue at all.

Paint fades.
Where's the problem?

a reply to: samkent

Or the picture of the whole jet was set for settings to make the colors look more saturated. From an industry glamour shot, or by a dishonest truth movement person.

Wouldn’t be the first time elementals of the truth movement manipulated a photo, or presented a random photo with no context as evidence.

How does the truth movement go from no understanding there wouldn’t be a recognizable jet fuselage after a high speed crash, the where’s the jet argument. To the colors on a piece of wreckage from a high speed crash of an in service jet are to faded.

The truth movement, a bunch of contradicting disingenuous idiots.