30 Transgender Regretters Come Out Of The Closet

a reply to: kaylaluv

Possibly when a Man spits out a Baby, until that day i imagine we will just have to live with the sex that nature gave us, or mutilate our bodies in an attempt to approximate the other sex.

And long before that happens i imagine we will be able to simply grow the next generation of human in artificial wombs where the sex of the child, nevermind just about every another attribute, can be clearly defined and edited.

Biology is a cruel mistress, but she is still our mistress, for the time being, because the future might be bright, but it will also be very, very, different.

Be careful what you wish for, because it's already in the Post.

a reply to: kaylaluv

Another perspective... abcnews.go.com...

Jazz Jennings? Really??? That poor child is a victim of child abuse and it's downright cruel.

He is now not only sterile, but will probably never develop any sexual sensation or desire at all. He has suffered depression (despite a very supporting and encouraging family), and eating disorders already. It is quite likely that his depression will include suicidal ideation at some point -- if not already. The drugs will also cause serious health issues, including increased risk of blood clots, stroke, heart problems, diabetes and osteoporosis. He has most likely also suffered a loss of cognitive function -- intelligence -- of as much as 10 IQ points.

If the gender "affirming" treatment doesn't kill him, and he doesn't commit suicide, I'm betting dollars to donuts that one day we're going to hear that he's pissed -- because he should be!!!

Gender Dysphoria and Children: An Endocrinologist’s Evaluation of I am Jazz

Much like one day we're going to be hearing from the (predominantly) girls now being maimed and tormented by the long-term -- perhaps lifelong -- adverse effects of off-label and experimental use of Lupron and other puberty blockers...

All About Lupron -- What You Don't Know Can Harm You

a reply to: kaylaluv

Is that your only definition of "tolerant"? If so, that's a pretty narrow definition that supports my statement. If one is gay or trans, they cannot be questioned or in any way subjected to any hardship, even if it is of their own doing. If one is conservative, one better keep their trap shut and hide in their house, or face those flaming torches and pitchforks.

You might be interested to know that there are gay folks in the South, and they aren't confronted with flaming torches and pitchforks every night. Or not... you probably don't believe me because I'm a conservative Southerner. More of that "tolerance," I suppose. The same type of tolerance I saw when I lived in a city for a short time.

I'll keep my definition of tolerance and consider everyone, thank you very much.

TheRedneck

I'm gay, so I like to think I have more empathy and acceptance of everyone, including transgenders. I know that some transgenders suffer horribly and even want to commit suicide when they feel they're in the wrong body. I have no problem with people who want to have a sex change. BUT....I don't think the medical community OR the psychological community understands this phenomenon well enough to be giving it the full green light it has.

a reply to: Boadicea

Jazz is a happy, well-adjusted trans youth with loving, supportive parents, contrary to what the far right conservative Witherspoon Institute would suggest.

Jazz is much luckier than another teen with gender dysphoria, who is no longer with us. Leelah Alcorn committed suicide by jumping in front of a semi on the interstate because her parents refused to listen to her pleas.

www.inquisitr.com... ide-note/

a reply to: thebtheb

Most people with gender dysphoria do not get the full sex reassignment surgery.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Dude, I’m just saying what I’ve been told by many gay and trans people here in Austin. They are much happier here than the small west Texas towns many of them came from.

You want to call them liars? Ooookay, that’s your right, I guess.

a reply to: thebtheb

BUT....I don't think the medical community OR the psychological community understands this phenomenon well enough to be giving it the full green light it has.

That is the issue, mental and emotional health is very complex, the medical community does not always get it right, think back to shock therapy and lobotomies they thought they were helping, but the reality it was just a guess.
I fear people are trying so hard to be accommodating, they aren't trying other solutions first. The public school system has been trained to just endorse and accept no matter what.
When it comes to suicide it might help prevent it by being supportive, but it also might push them further to it as they got such great support for their utter confusion that it brings them to a place they should never have gotten to but did because they were helped and enabled all the way there.

If you had a person that had "species dysphoria" and they now identify as a snake and wants one arm and one leg cut off, to more closely slither around like that, do you support that mental health issue by endorsing it or do you treat it?

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: Boadicea

Jazz is a happy, well-adjusted trans youth...

Apparently, you don't know as much about Jazz as you think you do. Kids diagnosed with clinical depression and prescribed psychoactive drugs are not "well-adjusted" -- trans or otherwise. Jazz also spoke about her anxiety.

And the drugs that she is taking are known to cause depression, anxiety and -- again -- suicidal ideation. We have no reason to believe that her emotional disorders will be not aggravated (if not caused by) the drugs and other post-op steps Jazz needs to take to maintain her transwoman status.

...with loving, supportive parents...

As noted, and yet still diagnosed with clinical depression and prescribed psychoactive drugs.

... contrary to what the far right conservative Witherspoon Institute would suggest.

Stop with the damn party politics. There are numerous documented issues with Lupron and other puberty blockers here:

All About Lupron -- What You Dont Know Can Harm You

Jazz is much luckier than another teen with gender dysphoria, who is no longer with us. Leelah Alcorn committed suicide by jumping in front of a semi on the interstate because her parents refused to listen to her pleas.

www.inquisitr.com... ide-note/

Save the emotional blackmail. That card's been over played. And you've already made it clear that your compassion and support is limited to a select few -- and won't even acknowledge or recognize the harm being done even to them. Just "rah! rah! transgender! cis boom bah!"

originally posted by: Boadicea



Save the emotional blackmail. That card's been over played. And you've already made it clear that your compassion and support is limited to a select few -- and won't even acknowledge or recognize the harm being done even to them. Just "rah! rah! transgender! cis boom bah!"

I’m using emotional blackmail?? Ha ha, that’s a laugh. You’re the one with all the fear mongering, with your claim that 90% of all transgenders are violent attackers.

a reply to: kaylaluv

I’m using emotional blackmail??

Yes, emotional blackmail.

Ha ha, that’s a laugh.

No, it's not funny at all.

You’re the one with all the fear mongering, with your claim that 90% of all transgenders are violent attackers.

I have never made such a claim and you know it. I have, however, posted links and statistics that either make similar and/or related claims. The fact that you have to twist and contort the truth is just more gaslighting.

a reply to: kaylaluv

No, I'm not calling them liars. I'm saying that in my experience, cities are less tolerant of certain lifestyles than rural areas or small towns. Not just gay lifestyles, not just trans lifestyles... all lifestyles combined. You're calling me a liar if you want to go with that tactic.

Personally, I'd rather just let it go that your painting with a broad brush.

But consider this: you have just demonstrated right here that you believe people who are trans or gay, apparently without reservation. On the other hand, someone you know who has a more conservative lifestyle you immediately dismiss and start claiming they are somehow disrespecting the trans and gay people. That's what I am referring to: you may be extremely tolerant of certain lifestyles, but you're also extremely intolerant of others. Overall, I think the cities are less tolerant than small towns and certainly less than rural areas.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Yep, I’m intolerant of intolerance.

Guilty as charged.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: TheRedneck

Yep, I’m intolerant of what I define as intolerance to fit my paradigms.

Guilty as charged.

Fixed that for you

a reply to: kaylaluv

Would that still not be ""intolerant""?

It's like racists felling marginalized and/or ignored because people think them stupid(which they are).

See opinions are like bumholes, everybody has one, but other peoples tend to stink.

a reply to: kaylaluv

... and can't even see your own intolerance. Sad. Bigly sad.

I guess some things never change. I grew up with the KKK active in this area. I knew some of the members. They all felt the same way you do, just about different people. Think about that.

TheRedneck

originally posted by: kaylaluv
a reply to: TheRedneck

Yep, I’m intolerant of intolerance.

Guilty as charged.

Yup.... including intolerance of those who refuse to tolerate the abuses in the Trans Activist Industry... including violence against women and children. You are quite happy to tolerate the abusers though.

Not something to be so proud of.

a reply to: Blue_Jay33

welcome to life .

people find themselves faces with questions and posible answers and posible solutions - and choose one - based on " reasons "

every one does not always choose wisely - and some reasise that thier descision was one they regret later

it happens

my favourite example to use here :

the clergy project

synopsis - the annecdotes of clergy and church leaders who realised they no longer believed in god

these are not " normal " theist > atheist trasistions - these are people who buildd carreers and thier entire life choice on thier religion

see - people to make descisions - they later regret

the only caveat i will make - is that as transgenderism - often involves surguries etc - then the bar should be higer - and the support " better " to ensure that people choose well

but still - if enough people make a descision - some will later regret it - however mundane or great the actual descision

using this to " bash " transgenderism - is just wrong - they simply made a choice - lay off using it to bolster your dogma

originally posted by: TheRedneck
a reply to: kaylaluv

... and can't even see your own intolerance. Sad. Bigly sad.

I guess some things never change. I grew up with the KKK active in this area. I knew some of the members. They all felt the same way you do, just about different people. Think about that.

TheRedneck

So you are saying we should be tolerant of the KKK? I see. Do you think we should have been tolerant of Hitler too?

a reply to: ignorant_ape

but still - if enough people make a descision - some will later regret it - however mundane or great the actual descision

This reminded me of another conversation I had in a completely different topic about failure, and the many positives that can come from it. In the many transgender regret stories I've read, I've found it interesting (and heartening) that although they regret their decision, they learned much from the experience, including about themselves. They often recognized the way their own thoughts and attitude limited their options and choices. They were also often able to recognize their own strengths and virtues that they had not appreciated before. Sometimes they learned that the "experts" are not always right and to trust their own heart and mind more.

I think sometimes in life when we have lessons to learn, it doesn't matter what choice we make, something will go "wrong" in order to teach us better.

using this to " bash " transgenderism - is just wrong - they simply made a choice - lay off using it to bolster your dogma

Not to speak for the poster you were replying to, but pointing out that transitioning isn't a magic cure for what ails the gender dysphoric AND euphoric is not necessarily "bashing" transgenderism. In fact, given the many many adverse effects to both life and limb (not to mention quality of life), it is irresponsible and actually cruel NOT to point out the potential adverse outcomes of transitioning. It's called "informed consent," as I'm sure you know.

One could just as easily say that denying them ALL known information (the good, the bad, and the ugly -- including the regretters and all the reasons why they regret their choice) is just wrong and to lay off using it to bolster YOUR dogma.