Mueller team deleted all of Strzoks texts

a reply to: mtnshredder

a reply to: Grambler

What am I a zealot for? You've said that I don't stand for anything before. I suppose you don't like my view that you are wasting your time so you label me with a nasty word to discount my views.

Grow up. I'm also wasting my time, at least I admit it though. If religious zealotry is present anywhere it is in the partisan minds of the majority of the more active members here. You seem to have no problem with their zealotry. Practice what you preach otherwise you look like a hypocrite.

Let's see how much longer you chase the carrot before you realize those in power are giving you the runaround. I won't hold my breath.

a reply to: Grambler

Doesn’t change the fact mueller attempted to destroy evidence

LOL I don't think that's the case.

The phones aren't evidence. The texts are, and, like I said, they're not erased from server just bacause the phones were reset to factory specs and reissued. But I do believe that you believe though. Sad.

a reply to: 3NL1GHT3N3D1

It’s not a nasty word

What do you call someone who thinks that everything that happens is proof of their world view that nothing matters?

And I call out hypcrites on all sides as you know

And I even admit to being a hypocrite at times as well

But you are beyond that

See, probably almost every person on ats, no matter how hypocritical I could ask

“What theoretically could happen to show to you that your thoughts are wrong or are changing”

Trump supporters would say Hillary or mueller or comey being charged with crimes

Trumo haters would say trumo going to jail

But you say nothing that could plasterer happen would be outside what the deep state wants

That is a special kind of zealotry which I find delightful to watch!

It’s not an insult, it’s just a fact

What word would you use to define someone like yourself, who believes that everything that could possibly happen is just the deep state duping us?

originally posted by: seagull
a reply to: Sookiechacha

Well, one would certainly hope so.

However, if they're not?? What then? This is not a good thing. This is tantamount to obstruction of justice on the part of the man who is, supposedly, after just that.

If it isn't, what is it?

The texts are now a matter of record. Those texts are not gone just because the phones were reset and reissued. I swear, you guys have Mueller Derangement Syndrome.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Grambler

Doesn’t change the fact mueller attempted to destroy evidence

LOL I don't think that's the case.

The phones aren't evidence. The texts are, and, like I said, they're not erased from server just bacause the phones were reset to factory specs and reissued. But I do believe that you believe though. Sad.

Hahahaha!

So then we got all of Hillary’s deleted subpoenaed emails right?

Just because she deleted them doesn’t mean the fbi didn’t have them

Why does the fbi subpoena anything then, they obviously have it all?

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Can you provide a source?

a reply to: JinMI


Can you?

Do have a source that proves that the FBI, or the IG didn't keep a file, that making a back up of those texts before the phones were reset and reissued is not SOP in such a case? Or, do you really think that the actual phones are always kept as evidence, and shown to judges and juries, not the just the texts themselves, that were sent via FBI server?

a reply to: Grambler

Do you realize that it is human nature to be enticed by power? Regardless of who's in charge there will always be corruption. That's just a fact whether you want to admit it or not. It is blind hope to think the system will somehow fix itself, that's also a fact.

You do not gain any traction in this world unless you play by the rules and those rules are corrupt at their foundation.

What word would you use to define someone like yourself, who believes that everything that could possibly happen is just the deep state duping us?

Realist.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

For God's sake already 😆

The Inspector General does not have the texts.

If they still existed, the IG would have got them unless somebody is deliberately concealing them.

The Red Herrings are getting rotten lately 🤦

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Grambler


Just because the text messages in question have been deleted from the phones, that doesn't mean that there is no record of them elsewhere. They should still exist on the server, and perhaps in some IG file, somewhere too.

And why would you destroy the original source just because you have a copy? Why would Page's phone go missing and then turn up deleted?

a reply to: Sookiechacha

The phones were kept. They were just deleted as well as kept. Why would you delete it when the phone is still evidence?

a reply to: Grambler

So then we got all of Hillary’s deleted subpoenaed emails right?

Yep! We do!

The FBI has salvaged work and personal emails thought to have been deleted from the private server Hillary Clinton used while she was secretary of state
………
While the discovery of the deleted mails on Clinton's server is a new development, it is largely incremental. Computer analysts have always expected that the FBI's technical experts would likely be able to recover the information they sought from Clinton's server.

www.cbsnews.com...

The FBI has been able to recover deleted emails from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's personal server,
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The FBI is investigating the configuration of that server as well as whether sensitive information ever passed through her private inbox while she served as secretary of state.

It is unclear how many deleted emails the FBI has been able to find. The IT firm Clinton hired to oversee the server after she left the State Department, Platte River Networks, said last month that it was "highly likely" a backup copy of the server was made. And an official speaking to The New York Times said the emails had not been difficult to recover.

www.businessinsider.com...

a reply to: Sookiechacha

From the OP's source:

“SCO’s Records Officer told the OIG that as part of the office’s records retention procedure, the officer reviewed Strzok’s DOJ issued iPhone after he returned it to the SCO and determined it contained no substantive text messages,” the OIG report said in stating that Strzok’s phone had been “reset to factory settings,” which means it was completely wiped of all of its data. Additionally, the SCO claimed it “was unable to locate the iPhone previously assigned to Page.” When the phone was finally found, it too had all of its data deleted and was reset to factory settings, according to the report.

Your turn.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Sookiechacha

The phones were kept. They were just deleted as well as kept. Why would you delete it when the phone is still evidence?

No, the phones were not kept. They were re-issued.

Strzok’s Phone Was Wiped and Re-Issued by FBI
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The OIG report states that the cellphones issued by the special counsel Robert Mueller’s office to Strzok and Page were reset after the two were removed from the probe, following the revelation they had exchanged anti-Trump texts during the 2016 presidential race.
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“Specifically, the OIG’s Cyber Investigations Office was asked to attempt recovery of these missing text message for the referenced period from FBI issued mobile devices issued to Strzok and Page.”

Horowitz added, “The OIG forensically recovered thousands of text messages from FBI mobile devices issued to Strzok and Page through its multiple extraction efforts. Approximately 9,311 text messages were recovered from Strzok’s S5 (Samsung),” while, “Approximately 10,760 text messages were recovered from Page’s S5.”

ussanews.com...


AND...

CONFIRMED: Inspector General Can Seize Strzok and Page’s FBI Phone Records bigleaguepolitics.com...

A former top special agent with the Federal Bureau of Investigation confirms that FBI agents Peter Strzok and Lisa Page were issued official FBI cell phones and that their phone records are impossible to lose or disappear.

The inspector general can seize their cell phone data pursuant to mandatory agreements signed by Strzok and Page that preserves the information exchanged on their government-issued devices.

Who needs the phone when you have the phone records and data?!

a reply to: JinMI


SO? The phone records and data are on the FBI server. They recovered all the missing texts and more.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

So your own source says it’s unknown how many of the original were recovered

And as their article in the op says, muellers team is claiming the IG can’t get the texts because they have been wiped

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI


SO? The phone records and data are on the FBI server. They recovered all the missing texts and more.

For the Fbi phones

The article in the op is referencing the phones given by mueller

Seeing as how muellers team and the IG are saying these texts are not available to the IG, can you provide evidence that says they are incorrect?