The fact that women use make-up

originally posted by: NightCall
a reply to: Edumakated

denial of what exactly? Please do enlighten me.

im still waiting. What am I in denial of? You make a statement don't run away now. I am curious on how you will try to say what I am denying, which implies you know what my life is like or whats in my mind, enough so as to claim I am in denial of something.

waiting........

a reply to: Sublimecraft

Real men are more attracted to that which resides from within - superficial exteriors tend to hide bigger issues. 

IMO, you're all good. 

Thank you -- I'm pretty sure guys like you make it easier for us to be us! Not like that darn patriarchy the OP mentioned... I think we all win, eh?

originally posted by: NightCall

originally posted by: NightCall
a reply to: Edumakated

denial of what exactly? Please do enlighten me.

im still waiting. What am I in denial of? You make a statement don't run away now. I am curious on how you will try to say what I am denying, which implies you know what my life is like or whats in my mind, enough so as to claim I am in denial of something.

waiting........

Patience Grasshopper. Your denial of reality...

Just because YOU may actually be a gear head or like cars, the vast majority of guys do so more so for the attention it gives them from women. There is a reason guys call nice cars "Ho Magnets..." To deny this is to deny reality.

Everything guys do for the most part is in the pursuit of pootang. Cars. Watches. Gym. Clothes. Making money. All in pursuit of the trophy wife or arm candy.

Hell, here in Chicago, we have a part of town called the Viagra triangle. A bunch of bars and restaurants with balding old men parking their Ferrari's trying to attract the botoxed divorcees.

You can't be this daft...

a reply to: gosseyn

We all use deceit for ease of life, do you think your dog is really that happy to see you? You think a kid is that hurt when you take away their toy. We literally have to learn deception and manipulation as our fist means of survival as we can not yet communicate our needs and wants.

Any good relationship is built on an equal sense of need.

a reply to: rickymouse

Some makeup is designed to add nutrients to a woman's body though, consuming the nutrient is not considered proper sometimes in this society. So they stick it into makeup where it can get absorbed by the skin.

You lost me on this one

What would be interesting to know is if make-up was present before civilization, before money, before neolithic, before the beginning of the commodity fetishism, around 12k years ago according to current knowledge. If not, then it could mean that make-up emerged at the same time that women were treated like a commodity, or a means of exchange.

Womans looks tend to have a short shelf life.

Some birds use shiney rocks to adorn their nest to attract other birds.


It's who we are - male or female. We lie to each other when trying to gain a partner for whatever reason.


I think many animals do the same. Some dance, some show skills, some have stuff.... most do something to attract a mate in one fashion or another.

I don't wear make-up, I tossed that s# in the trash where it belongs when I was still a teenager. For me & my skin, all it does it make me feel an incessant need to wash my face, I cannot STAND the feel of it.

From a people watcher/listener POV, I'm less liable to put stock in opinions from a woman made up like a Barbie doll because the buck evidently stops at the surface for her. I'm not ashamed to admit this, shallow is shallow and the extent of make-up use is a pretty good and reliable indicator of it.

Why do you think you have to slather that crap on? Because society says you'll feel good about yourself if you do? Because you don't like your natural self and think if you paint yourself up, it'll work out better in the end somehow?

It's not about sexuality any more, make-up is deeply rooted in modern self-esteem problems. Perceive yourself as ugly or don't think you're good enough for life in general? Watch an Asian make-up tutorial and make yourself into a pretty girl nobody will recognize. Have bad skin? Don't try to resolve it through a long term skincare solution commitment, cover it up and just prolong the issue to look good NOW.

I've got 2 pre-teen girls, and one vehemently hates make-up for the same physical sensation reason I go, and because she thinks it's an indication of distrust ("It's fake. That lady's skin does NOT really look like that. It's basically a lie. What else does she lie about?") She thinks of make-up as a deception, and not a good one.

The other one is obsessed with make-up, because to paraphrase her, society says you're not a really pretty girl unless you use a lot of make-up to make yourself pretty (that one's on you, make-up mavens online & off, thanks a lot) It's a difficult mentality to break her of, because for some reason, it does resonate with her. Regardless, she is not allowed to own, let alone wear any at her age, she's 11. She may when she's 16 and has a full time job to pay for it herself, however. Not a minute sooner.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
We all know the OP likes a bit of “guy liner”.....

Really what is the point in this thread.

That's really self centered man.

You post aggressive threads trolling up political misery and that's OK...

But if someone else posts a thread asking a random question about something you take offense and cannot see a point in it?

Well yeah, it's not "your thread" and you aren't getting the attention and feeding off all the angst and conflict.

I can see why you dismiss anyone else's threads. It's because they aren't your threads.

I know of the various reasons why women wear makeup. I know of the various reasons why they say they wear makeup. This has led me to not really having any romantic interest in women who spend a lot of money on makeup. To me it's just a waste of money. As far as physical attraction goes I'm more into the whole natural beauty thing, but that's lower on the list of what I consider important in a potential partner. I care more about confidence, self-esteem, and independence. If a woman wants to use make-up because she thinks it's fun, or to accentuate her natural looks I think that's cool.

Although, when I see a person putting on so much makeup and contouring to hide or alter her actual face with the purpose of attracting someone I think that's a bit disingenuous. But hey, that's her right. Whether she believes it's just for fun or doesn't realize that she may be deluding herself.

As far as what men do to gain attention as far as peacocking their possessions. I personally have to disagree. I like fast cars because they are fast. I like nice clothes that are well made and last for years. I don't pursue things to show off. I pursue things to bring satisfaction and fun into my life. It's for me, not anyone else.

I think it’s a woman’s right to wear or not wear makeup for whatever reason she deems fit.

If anyone judges a woman as less intelligent because she wears makeup, it says more about her than the woman wearing makeup.

That being said, any woman who thinks herself superior to another because of looks or makeup is a superficial narcissist.

a reply to: gosseyn

It is a mask to hide behind. Some women feel that they can go out and conqure the world no matter how they are feeling as long as they have makeup/mask on.

I have known some who feel like they are naked if they don't have make up on.

Personally I hardly wear any, and my husband thinks I'm gorgeous without it.

a reply to: Edumakated

Wrong again. You make some hella assumptions. First of all im not a “gearhead”. I know vehicles sure, but I also know a lot about a lot of stuff outside vehicles etc...

Since you want to say that the majority of guys get fancy cars to impress women, im here to tell you that you should re assess how you analyze people.

I can tell you that I know far more guys who have nice rides and are married with kids or in a steady relationship with someone. You say it like guys buy the car so they can pick up women, and that without the car they couldn’t do so or at least nearly enough. That’s straightup bs and honestly its insulting to women to insenuate that all they want are guys with nice cars.

Also, man and machine goes back a LOOOOOONG time and the relationship would exist with or WITHOUT women.

Simply put, women care far less than you think about a guys nice ride, and men car far less about picking up women than they do for their own enjoyment of a nice car.

I realize everyone has opinions but im not sure where you get yours. Im sensing that you lost a girl once to a guy in a nice car. Its sad that you think the car was the reason why. Says a lot about yourself really and the lack of self confidence you have. Some of the most beautiful women I have ever dated, if not the majority were when I had either a mediocre ride or even a junker. They honestly didn’t give a # about my car.

Its the person who matters and often times it boils down to if a guy is lazy and content in having a crap car or if he wants a better life and is trying. 💯

a reply to: gosseyn

No , Women wear Makeup in order to Fool a Man into Thinking they are somehow Beautiful , and you Really should Buy them a Drink .....

a reply to: Mystery_Lady

Good for you. I often tell women I am involved with how pretty they are without makeup. I also tell them that sometimes they put on too much makeup.

a reply to: Zanti Misfit

So you believe what you say? I surely hope not lol

originally posted by: NightCall
a reply to: Zanti Misfit

So you believe what you say? I surely hope not lol

Absolutely , just ask my Ex Wife...............)

I don't see it that way at all. Makeup is often just an enhancement of the natural appearance. I can usually imagine how they look without it. If they already have nice eyes and they do the makeup right, it just amplifies it. Nothing wrong with that. Of course people who are bad at applying makeup probably shouldn't try but most women seem to do it better than I ever could.

originally posted by: Sheye
I think it’s a woman’s right to wear or not wear makeup for whatever reason she deems fit.

If anyone judges a woman as less intelligent because she wears makeup, it says more about her than the woman wearing makeup.

That being said, any woman who thinks herself superior to another because of looks or makeup is a superficial narcissist.

Seems kind of dumb.

Taking into consideration the price of each product, a new survey from SkinStore.com reports that the average woman wears about $8 worth of makeup and skincare products every day. That adds up to almost $250 a month and well over $200,000 in a lifetime.