Is Santa Claus Real. . . . .

A New Jersey substitute teacher at Cedar Hill School was fired after she told a room full of first graders that Santa Claus is fake.
Superintendent Rene Rovtar released a statement saying that she was “troubled and disheartened” by the incident that could potentially ruin the childhood wonder associated with the holidays.

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I know Santa Claus is real. He's actually visited our home and even though our children are older now, he still brings them gifts on Christmas.

I feel sorry for the loser-dorks who don't believe in Santa.


But for the sake of argument, I will posit to all of you. . . . . Is the Jolly Old Elf real?

Santa Claus real.

Do not argue !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

😎

Why would a teacher say that to a group of kids though? That's ridiculous. She should have been fired.

Lot's of kids are ugly too. You don't tell them that. That kind of truth only hurts people.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Imagine if she said more than two genders is fake..
She would have been tired and feathered too

a reply to: DBCowboy

Teach them Santa is fake, but Karl Marx was real.

I see where they're going with this...

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: DBCowboy

Imagine if she said more than two genders is fake..
She would have been tired and feathered too

And Again, not her place to say that either.

a reply to: DBCowboy
I feel sorry for you wife who has probably been sneaking out buying your kids presents all this time hiding it from you so you can keep you imaginary world intact???



I've become disheartened with Red Ice Radio awhile back, it's taken a hard right turn...
but well... tis the season!!!

a reply to: DBCowboy

But for the sake of argument, I will posit to all of you. . . . . Is the Jolly Old Elf real?

I would put this on almost the same level as asking if Jesus or angels are real.

In turn, I would like to ask the question, does this subject belong in schools on the teacher/student level?

a reply to: DBCowboy

This is silly.

But I actually empathize with this outrage more than others.

Single male here, but I wouldn't be thrilled if a teacher took it upon themselves to derail part of traditional childhood experiences parents like to pass on. (whether they agree with it is irrelevant).

I wouldn't expect they get fired though.

originally posted by: amazing

originally posted by: Bluntone22
a reply to: DBCowboy

Imagine if she said more than two genders is fake..
She would have been tired and feathered too

And Again, not her place to say that either.

No but the news story would have been epic...lol

a reply to: DBCowboy

That is interesting.
Should someone be fired for telling the truth?

Should we encourage teachers to lie to the students?

I think she should find a lawyer.
I disagree with her actions but you can't really fire a teacher for teaching.

NORAD tracks Santa every year.

QED

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

I think she should find a lawyer.
I disagree with her actions but you can't really fire a teacher for teaching.

Timing is everything.

I could teach a lot of truth parents wouldn't be thrilled about depending on the grade you bring it up.

a reply to: DBCowboy
Who gives a Cr@p about Santa its that little Fn elf that moves everynight thats a PITA.

he still brings them gifts on Christmas.

Christmas you mean holiday, lets not upset anyone.

I know Santa Claus is real. He's actually visited our home

Sexist much , how dare you assume Santa is a male.

I got a hold of the upcoming Santa Clause movies from Hollywood.

Santa Clause 4: Tim Allen is being replaced as the lead character and Mrs Clause will be the lead played by Ellen Degeneres

Santa Clause 5: Time Allen is being replaced by Caitlyn Jenner as the first Transgender Santa character.

Santa Clause remake: all female cast.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

I understand the point.

However this teacher was fired for not lying.
Sure I'm looking at it very black and white but even including the grays I don't think I could support the phrase...

"Teachers should sometimes lie to their students".

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

However this teacher was fired for not lying.

'Twas for being a dick. Actually.

Teachers should help make dreams, not crush them.

"In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." George Orwell

Revolutionary acts come with a hefty price tag.

Seriously, the teacher should have told any student that inquired(if they did) to ask their parents. It wasn't the teachers place to make that call, even when it's the truth.

a reply to: Krahzeef_Ukhar

However this teacher was fired for not lying.
Sure I'm looking at it very black and white but even including the grays I don't think I could support the phrase...


"Teachers should sometimes lie to their students".

That's fair, even I said in my first post they shouldn't have been fired.

But there's a big difference between not telling kids adult truths and lying.

I learned around 1st grade, and I'm fine....

Some kids may have more of a negative impact for believing childish whimsical things for too long... But who gets to decide is the question at hand I suppose.

a reply to: CriticalStinker

Some kids may have more of a negative impact for believing childish whimsical things for too long

How about adultish whimsical things?

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Some kids may have more of a negative impact for believing childish whimsical things for too long

How about adultish whimsical things?

It takes all kinds to make the world go 'round.

I just don't want to be the guy known for raining my cynicism on childrens' parades.... But I shouldn't be fired for it either if it's not egregious.