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originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: Wardaddy454
Losing Thirty five or more seats is what? A victory?
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Annee
There was no proper chain of custody for votes. There were clear violations of procedure. There are now no guarantees. That's really the point.
They failed the country. By cheating or by failing to do their job competently.
It doesn't matter. We deserve better than this BS.
And you'd feel the same way if it was the GOP making mistakes?
I doubt it.
ALL votes need to be counted.
The shenanigans of vote suppression needs to end.
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: RadioRobert
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: RadioRobert
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: RadioRobert
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: RadioRobert
originally posted by: Greven
originally posted by: RadioRobert
originally posted by: Greven
Do you not want our troops to vote?
That's your big takeaway? LOL
That's your best attempt to brush away the crimes currently taking place?
I hope CTR gets a refund
You've completely brushed away the actual deadlines for ballots
What does a judge saying vote counters are breaking the law, ordering them to stop breaking it, and they still refuse have to do with ballot deadlines. Nothing. Are you a bot? Or is English not your first language? Both?
The judge is saying they are violating open records law.
Violating the records law by not sharing information on the vote tally and refusing to allow observors or external inspection. And they still are not. The deadline was 9 NOV 2018, 1900hrs EST. They are in contempt.
Likely so, but that's a different matter than committing electoral fraud.
You've provided no other remotely plausible scenario in which a person would willingly place themselves in contempt and in knowing violation of election laws regarding observers, inspection, and sharing of information used to prevent ballot-box stuffing.
No one can.
There isn't one.
You're trying to assign motive and plausibility to a crime that as of yet there is no allegation for.
No. The crime took place. I've posted the video twice. The laws were clearly broken. They are clearly in contempt. The judge ruled they were in violation. What's the alternative motive for placing themselves in contempt and in knowing violation of election laws regarding observers, inspection, and sharing of information used to prevent ballot-box stuffing?
Weird that the Florida Department of Law Enforcement says there isn't even an allegation of electoral fraud, then, huh?
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Annee
Yes. I would.
Stop with the deflections.
This is wrong and you know it.
Edit to add:
ALL votes? Even fraudulent ones?
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Annee
There was no proper chain of custody for votes. There were clear violations of procedure. There are now no guarantees. That's really the point.
They failed the country. By cheating or by failing to do their job competently.
It doesn't matter. We deserve better than this BS.
And you'd feel the same way if it was the GOP making mistakes?
I doubt it.
ALL votes need to be counted.
The shenanigans of vote suppression needs to end.
Remember when the overseas votes weren't counted in 2012?
Pepefarms remembers.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Annee
Yes. I would.
Stop with the deflections.
This is wrong and you know it.
Edit to add:
ALL votes? Even fraudulent ones?
Proof of fraudulent votes.
Wannabe conspiracy speculation.
Is voter fraud real or a myth? Here are the actual statistics.
The election is not rigged, no matter how many times Republican nominee Donald Trump says it is. While the candidate has prematurely blamed his possible loss on a number of factors — from the media to Hillary Clinton to election officials fixing the results — voter fraud is largely a myth. It almost never happens.
www.google.com...
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Annee
There was no proper chain of custody for votes. There were clear violations of procedure. There are now no guarantees. That's really the point.
They failed the country. By cheating or by failing to do their job competently.
It doesn't matter. We deserve better than this BS.
And you'd feel the same way if it was the GOP making mistakes?
I doubt it.
ALL votes need to be counted.
The shenanigans of vote suppression needs to end.
Remember when the overseas votes weren't counted in 2012?
Pepefarms remembers.
I remember 2000 when the Supreme Court voted to retroactively allow military votes that were not valid due to late or no post date.
Military votes tend to favor Republicans.
Then the Florida Supreme Court chose Bush rather then allowing a legitimate vote count.
BTW: I voted for Bush.
Charles C.W. Cooke lays out where things stand in Florida as deadline passes (Hint: NOT looking good for the Dems)
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Annee
Yes. I would.
Stop with the deflections.
This is wrong and you know it.
Edit to add:
ALL votes? Even fraudulent ones?
Proof of fraudulent votes.
Wannabe conspiracy speculation.
Is voter fraud real or a myth? Here are the actual statistics.
The election is not rigged, no matter how many times Republican nominee Donald Trump says it is. While the candidate has prematurely blamed his possible loss on a number of factors — from the media to Hillary Clinton to election officials fixing the results — voter fraud is largely a myth. It almost never happens.
www.google.com...
Hey a bias source that uses bias sources.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Annee
Yes. I would.
Stop with the deflections.
This is wrong and you know it.
Edit to add:
ALL votes? Even fraudulent ones?
Proof of fraudulent votes.
Wannabe conspiracy speculation.
Is voter fraud real or a myth? Here are the actual statistics.
The election is not rigged, no matter how many times Republican nominee Donald Trump says it is. While the candidate has prematurely blamed his possible loss on a number of factors — from the media to Hillary Clinton to election officials fixing the results — voter fraud is largely a myth. It almost never happens.
www.google.com...
Hey a bias source that uses bias sources.
Who would you consider not bias?
Heritage Foundation?
Breitbart?
FOX?
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Annee
There was no proper chain of custody for votes. There were clear violations of procedure. There are now no guarantees. That's really the point.
They failed the country. By cheating or by failing to do their job competently.
It doesn't matter. We deserve better than this BS.
And you'd feel the same way if it was the GOP making mistakes?
I doubt it.
ALL votes need to be counted.
The shenanigans of vote suppression needs to end.
Remember when the overseas votes weren't counted in 2012?
Pepefarms remembers.
I remember 2000 when the Supreme Court voted to retroactively allow military votes that were not valid due to late or no post date.
Military votes tend to favor Republicans.
Then the Florida Supreme Court chose Bush rather then allowing a legitimate vote count.
BTW: I voted for Bush.
After Gore got his two recounts.
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Annee
There was no proper chain of custody for votes. There were clear violations of procedure. There are now no guarantees. That's really the point.
They failed the country. By cheating or by failing to do their job competently.
It doesn't matter. We deserve better than this BS.
And you'd feel the same way if it was the GOP making mistakes?
I doubt it.
ALL votes need to be counted.
The shenanigans of vote suppression needs to end.
Remember when the overseas votes weren't counted in 2012?
Pepefarms remembers.
I remember 2000 when the Supreme Court voted to retroactively allow military votes that were not valid due to late or no post date.
Military votes tend to favor Republicans.
Then the Florida Supreme Court chose Bush rather then allowing a legitimate vote count.
BTW: I voted for Bush.
After Gore got his two recounts.
Selective recounts is NOT counting ALL votes.
BTW - I voted for Bush
originally posted by: grey580
a reply to: DigginFoTroof
This may surprise you but, not all votes are counted in an election. When the math supports a winner. Then a winner is declared.
It's when the votes are close. Then all votes must be counted.
This is normal and a problem.
We are in the day and age when we do not need to be using paper ballots. There are these great things called websites or phone apps that can be used to let people vote. And you can vote from home. Imagine that. And we'd have instant numbers. No more waiting a week to tally all the ballots. If security is a concern. A old fashioned printout of your vote could be done to keep for your records. It can be done. Why aren't we doing it?
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: Wardaddy454
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Annee
There was no proper chain of custody for votes. There were clear violations of procedure. There are now no guarantees. That's really the point.
They failed the country. By cheating or by failing to do their job competently.
It doesn't matter. We deserve better than this BS.
And you'd feel the same way if it was the GOP making mistakes?
I doubt it.
ALL votes need to be counted.
The shenanigans of vote suppression needs to end.
Remember when the overseas votes weren't counted in 2012?
Pepefarms remembers.
I remember 2000 when the Supreme Court voted to retroactively allow military votes that were not valid due to late or no post date.
Military votes tend to favor Republicans.
Then the Florida Supreme Court chose Bush rather then allowing a legitimate vote count.
BTW: I voted for Bush.
After Gore got his two recounts.
Selective recounts is NOT counting ALL votes.
BTW - I voted for Bush
So you're saying all votes should be counted, including fraudulent votes?
And you keep saying you voted for Bush, like it matters or holds some relevance to your stance.