Does this "continued vote counting" in some states reek of voter fraud or what?!

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: Greven
Do you not want our troops to vote?

That's your big takeaway? LOL

That's your best attempt to brush away the crimes currently taking place?

I hope CTR gets a refund

You've completely brushed away the actual deadlines for ballots

What does a judge saying vote counters are breaking the law, ordering them to stop breaking it, and they still refuse have to do with ballot deadlines. Nothing. Are you a bot? Or is English not your first language? Both?

The judge is saying they are violating open records law.

Violating the records law by not sharing information on the vote tally and refusing to allow observors or external inspection. And they still are not. The deadline was 9 NOV 2018, 1900hrs EST. They are in contempt.

Likely so, but that's a different matter than committing electoral fraud.

You've provided no other remotely plausible scenario in which a person would willingly place themselves in contempt and in knowing violation of election laws regarding observers, inspection, and sharing of information used to prevent ballot-box stuffing.
No one can.
There isn't one.

You're trying to assign motive and plausibility to a crime that as of yet there is no allegation for.

No. The crime took place. I've posted the video twice. The laws were clearly broken. They are clearly in contempt. The judge ruled they were in violation. What's the alternative motive for placing themselves in contempt and in knowing violation of election laws regarding observers, inspection, and sharing of information used to prevent ballot-box stuffing?

Weird that the Florida Department of Law Enforcement says there isn't even an allegation of electoral fraud, then, huh?

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Greven

Question, how can it be verified that the ballots were received on time?

The pace of counting is a particular concern in Broward County. The county elections supervisor, Brenda Snipes, told reporters on Thursday that she could not say how many votes were left to count, only that all mailed-in ballots had been taken out of their envelopes.

Well After Election Day, Florida and Georgia Voters Still Wonder Who Won - NYT

If the postmark is to be used to determine whether or not a mail in ballot is eligible, and the ballots have been removed from said envelopes, what method of verification is used?

Well, you know normally I would say, "there are external observers free to inspect the ballots, and the total count of ballots was known by everyone late on Tuesday night".

But the vote counters broke those laws even after a judge issued an emergency order to stop the illegal activity from occurring.

So, I don't know. I guess we'll just trust they were altruisticly breaking those laws and refusing inspectors access on our behalf.

Some results now that it's past the noon deadline.

United States Senator

Rick Scott REP 4,098,107 50.07%
Bill Nelson DEM 4,085,545 49.92%
Lateresa L.A. Jones WRI 444 0.01%
Howard Knepper WRI 109 0%
Michael S. Levinson WRI 101 0%
Charles Frederick Tolbert WRI 116 0%
David Weeks WRI 209 0%
Machine Recount Indicated Total 8,184,631

Recount triggered.

originally posted by: jadedANDcynical
a reply to: Greven

Question, how can it be verified that the ballots were received on time?

The pace of counting is a particular concern in Broward County. The county elections supervisor, Brenda Snipes, told reporters on Thursday that she could not say how many votes were left to count, only that all mailed-in ballots had been taken out of their envelopes.

Well After Election Day, Florida and Georgia Voters Still Wonder Who Won - NYT

If the postmark is to be used to determine whether or not a mail in ballot is eligible, and the ballots have been removed from said envelopes, what method of verification is used?

Hell if I know. Probably a law about it somewhere.

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: RadioRobert

originally posted by: Greven
Do you not want our troops to vote?

That's your big takeaway? LOL

That's your best attempt to brush away the crimes currently taking place?

I hope CTR gets a refund

You've completely brushed away the actual deadlines for ballots

What does a judge saying vote counters are breaking the law, ordering them to stop breaking it, and they still refuse have to do with ballot deadlines. Nothing. Are you a bot? Or is English not your first language? Both?

The judge is saying they are violating open records law.

Violating the records law by not sharing information on the vote tally and refusing to allow observors or external inspection. And they still are not. The deadline was 9 NOV 2018, 1900hrs EST. They are in contempt.

Likely so, but that's a different matter than committing electoral fraud.

You've provided no other remotely plausible scenario in which a person would willingly place themselves in contempt and in knowing violation of election laws regarding observers, inspection, and sharing of information used to prevent ballot-box stuffing.
No one can.
There isn't one.

You're trying to assign motive and plausibility to a crime that as of yet there is no allegation for.

No. The crime took place. I've posted the video twice. The laws were clearly broken. They are clearly in contempt. The judge ruled they were in violation. What's the alternative motive for placing themselves in contempt and in knowing violation of election laws regarding observers, inspection, and sharing of information used to prevent ballot-box stuffing?

Weird that the Florida Department of Law Enforcement says there isn't even an allegation of electoral fraud, then, huh?

Actually even your out of context quote said they hadn't opened an investigation because the complaint was not a written complaint. That wouldn't fly in my state, but I don't know if Florida has different laws for their election system.
Have you figured out the alternative motive yet? We're all dying to know.

a reply to: RadioRobert

For anyone who voted by mail and is interested in finding out the status of theirvote by mail ballot, Voter Information Lookup is available for use.

a reply to: Greven




The 2018 Florida Statutes


Title IX
ELECTORS AND ELECTIONS
Chapter 101
VOTING METHODS AND PROCEDURE
View Entire Chapter
101.67 Safekeeping of mailed ballots; deadline for receiving vote-by-mail ballots.—
(1) The supervisor of elections shall safely keep in his or her office any envelopes received containing marked ballots of absent electors, and he or she shall, before the canvassing of the election returns, deliver the envelopes to the county canvassing board along with his or her file or list kept regarding said ballots.
(2) Except as provided in s. 101.6952(5), all marked absent electors’ ballots to be counted must be received by the supervisor by 7 p.m. the day of the election. All ballots received thereafter shall be marked with the time and date of receipt and filed in the supervisor’s office.
History.—s. 2, ch. 11824, 1927; CGL 436; s. 1, ch. 25385, 1949; s. 5, ch. 26870, 1951; s. 24, ch. 29934, 1955; s. 24, ch. 57-1; s. 35, ch. 65-380; s. 5, ch. 71-149; s. 23, ch. 77-175; s. 590, ch. 95-147; s. 14, ch. 2013-57; s. 23, ch. 2016-37.
Note.—Former s. 101.07.

originally posted by: timequake
a reply to: Greven




The 2018 Florida Statutes


Title IX
ELECTORS AND ELECTIONS
Chapter 101
VOTING METHODS AND PROCEDURE
View Entire Chapter
101.67 Safekeeping of mailed ballots; deadline for receiving vote-by-mail ballots.—
(1) The supervisor of elections shall safely keep in his or her office any envelopes received containing marked ballots of absent electors, and he or she shall, before the canvassing of the election returns, deliver the envelopes to the county canvassing board along with his or her file or list kept regarding said ballots.
(2) Except as provided in s. 101.6952(5), all marked absent electors’ ballots to be counted must be received by the supervisor by 7 p.m. the day of the election. All ballots received thereafter shall be marked with the time and date of receipt and filed in the supervisor’s office.
History.—s. 2, ch. 11824, 1927; CGL 436; s. 1, ch. 25385, 1949; s. 5, ch. 26870, 1951; s. 24, ch. 29934, 1955; s. 24, ch. 57-1; s. 35, ch. 65-380; s. 5, ch. 71-149; s. 23, ch. 77-175; s. 590, ch. 95-147; s. 14, ch. 2013-57; s. 23, ch. 2016-37.
Note.—Former s. 101.07.

Thanks, but this appears to be about mailed ballots (absentee) and says 7pm rather than 7:30pm.

originally posted by: Greven

originally posted by: timequake
a reply to: Greven




The 2018 Florida Statutes


Title IX
ELECTORS AND ELECTIONS
Chapter 101
VOTING METHODS AND PROCEDURE
View Entire Chapter
101.67 Safekeeping of mailed ballots; deadline for receiving vote-by-mail ballots.—
(1) The supervisor of elections shall safely keep in his or her office any envelopes received containing marked ballots of absent electors, and he or she shall, before the canvassing of the election returns, deliver the envelopes to the county canvassing board along with his or her file or list kept regarding said ballots.
(2) Except as provided in s. 101.6952(5), all marked absent electors’ ballots to be counted must be received by the supervisor by 7 p.m. the day of the election. All ballots received thereafter shall be marked with the time and date of receipt and filed in the supervisor’s office.
History.—s. 2, ch. 11824, 1927; CGL 436; s. 1, ch. 25385, 1949; s. 5, ch. 26870, 1951; s. 24, ch. 29934, 1955; s. 24, ch. 57-1; s. 35, ch. 65-380; s. 5, ch. 71-149; s. 23, ch. 77-175; s. 590, ch. 95-147; s. 14, ch. 2013-57; s. 23, ch. 2016-37.
Note.—Former s. 101.07.

Thanks, but this appears to be about mailed ballots (absentee) and says 7pm rather than 7:30pm.

Lol... the 30 minutes is actually what is done in practice for consideration. In any event it still proves my point. Someone already posted for you the dates for over seas mailing ballots, and provision ballots--one must prove they are registered to votes as of the second day after, but that's not at issue this the current instance.


Seriously though. Are you here for a real discussion or are you just trolling people?

a reply to: Greven

Judge Raag Singhal said Florida law was clear on the subject: The ballots should not be opened until the county’s three-member canvassing board had determined the validity of the ballots.
...
Up until the judge’s order, the elections office said it had received permission from the canvassing board to open envelopes if it had determined that a voter’s signature matched the signature on file and that the voter had not died. This only required the presence of one canvassing board member, usually Snipes.
...
The supervisor’s office had planned to start opening the mailed-in envelopes Monday but did not because of the judge’s ruling, Snipes said. Once the envelopes are open, the ballots are separated from them, making it impossible to link a ballot to an individual voter.

Snipes said she’s waiting for further clarification from the judge, so her office doesn’t do anything improper, but she maintained her office has procedures in place for ballots to be challenged.

“There’s an opportunity every single day to challenge the process,” Snipes said. The mailed-in ballot envelopes are available for inspection before they are opened for a half-hour each morning during the 15 days prior to an election.

Elections chief Snipes ordered to change handling of mail-in ballots

So while the facility was locked down, who was there to verify the ballots as they were being opened?

I just found this link and video and thought I should post it.I
had forgotten about Dave Hodges...
www.thecommonsenseshow.com...

State elections observers have seen no evidence of criminal activity in Broward County

www.google.com...

a reply to: Annee

There was no proper chain of custody for votes. There were clear violations of procedure. There are now no guarantees. That's really the point.

They failed the country. By cheating or by failing to do their job competently.

It doesn't matter. We deserve better than this BS.

Don't know if any of you saw this,

www.scribd.com...

11 03 2016 Chelsey Smith SOE Affidavit Uploaded by Susan Duclos Affidavit of witness to voter Fraud in Broward County, Florida

www.scribd.com...

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: caterpillage
It's tough being a Democrat. The majority of people want nothing to do with your policies and ideas.
Their base is shrinking by the day, they gotta do what they gotta do. By any means necessary.

Erm, largest Blue wave in the mid-terms in 40 years is somehow shrinkage? Eh?

Blue wave? 30ish seats is a wave now?

The Senate, the Executive, and the Judicial branch are red, meanwhile.

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Annee

There was no proper chain of custody for votes. There were clear violations of procedure. There are now no guarantees. That's really the point.

They failed the country. By cheating or by failing to do their job competently.

It doesn't matter. We deserve better than this BS.

And you'd feel the same way if it was the GOP making mistakes?

I doubt it.

ALL votes need to be counted.

The shenanigans of vote suppression needs to end.

Florida Secretary of State has ordered a recount.

a reply to: Annee

Yes. I would.

Stop with the deflections.

This is wrong and you know it.

Edit to add:
ALL votes? Even fraudulent ones?

She seems nice.

And capable of doing the job.

......

a reply to: Wardaddy454

Losing Thirty five or more seats is what? A victory?