Trump Supporter was illegally kicked out of Seattle Bar

Seeing this stuff really pisses me off, the planet has gone insane. White guilt and hating the European because of propaganda and lies. This is what our people have come to..

a reply to: slahey
But was it illegal?
I don't know the law that applies in Seattle, but in my own country bar-owners are allowed to exclude at their own discretion (as long as it's not for racist reasons etc.).

Weird times we live in.

a reply to: slahey

first, i wouldn't have kick him out. but its up to the owner and its his right. but you see what happens in your country? its because of trump. he divides instead of bringing people together. yes, the media is harsh and they are constently fighting him. but in my opinion he started this war of words. its a mess. hopefully after trump, there will be someone empathic president, doesn't mater if democrat or republican.

a reply to: oloufo

You are fake news.

a reply to: oloufo


The division started with Obama; people voted for Trump because they were sick of it.

Bar owner is an idiot who assaulted these people. Disgusting behavior.

originally posted by: slahey
a reply to: oloufo

You are fake news.

I truely hope you were sarcastic or something.
"You are fake news." would otherwise be the stupid comment of the day, at least.

a reply to: slahey

why?

a reply to: slahey

My oh my, how the tables have turned!

It must be educational for the lackwit in the video, to have the methodology by which far right scum used to screw with minorities turned back in his face, the methodology that was for decades, and in some places still is used to deny goods and services to minority groups, on whatever fascist grounds a person could invent, be it some disagreement with their choice of sexual partner, or their skin tone, or any other blasted thing.

Excuse me, while I find someone with small enough hands to play this tiny, nanoviolin.

Oh wait, the President is probably busy, trying to find the nearest hole with his tiny white balls.

That's a golfing reference by the way, so keep calm everyone

In any case, I find it very difficult to generate sympathy for this individual. His suffering is nothing, the embarrassment he felt is meaningless, because supporting who he supports, means that he would not care about anyone else's suffering either. Anti-immigrant, anti-equality leanings, are only held by those who lack compassion in adequate amounts, so wasting emotion on their plight is like pouring light into a black hole, hoping to illuminate its contents. Its a beautiful idea, but a waste of energy and futile in the extreme.

We can keep pointing fingers back and forth, launching insults at opposing viewpoints, and maintaining the status quo that is the destruction of liberty.

Or....call me crazy here...we can start to work together to end the political madness that is dividing us.

Trump said Obama was dumb face and Hillary is a crook!

Obama said Trump was a butt head.

Clinton called me a nazi.

Why attach ourselves to these “elected” officials who time and time again fail to deliver their promises to the people.

Why let the media control our thoughts and minds with their blatantly biased dissemination of propaganda?

Why do we keep doing this? Since shortly after 9-11, all American society has done is bunker down into this ideological civil war.

Can’t we all...just....get along?

a reply to: TrueBrit

You too are fake news but also a traitor.

a reply to: TrueBrit


I’m curious, have you even been to the United States for any length of time?

If you had, you would realize Republicans are not Anti-immigrants. We are against unknown peoples crossing our borders illegally to come here to take from our benefits system that most of us have paid into for 30 years or more. They get housing, food stamps, SSDI while they work their drug dealing on the side.

I have lived in a border state AZ, and let me tell you, it isn’t civilized, honest, or hard working people that flooded in. There were more drug dealers than anything.

Republicans care about people, but charity should start at home.

a reply to: TrueBrit

So, if he supports trump that automatically makes him a racist? Do you honestly believe that?

originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: slahey

first, i wouldn't have kick him out. but its up to the owner and its his right. but you see what happens in your country? its because of trump. he divides instead of bringing people together. yes, the media is harsh and they are constently fighting him. but in my opinion he started this war of words. its a mess. hopefully after trump, there will be someone empathic president, doesn't mater if democrat or republican.

You have no idea what you are talking about.

a reply to: slahey

Not a traitor. He's British and doesn't even live in the U.S., so his wailing about Trump supporters is just an excuse to do the very thing he accuses others of doing.
Hate and discriminate anyone who doesn't think like him.

originally posted by: oloufo
a reply to: slahey

first, i wouldn't have kick him out. but its up to the owner and its his right. but you see what happens in your country? its because of trump. he divides instead of bringing people together. yes, the media is harsh and they are constently fighting him. but in my opinion he started this war of words. its a mess. hopefully after trump, there will be someone empathic president, doesn't mater if democrat or republican.

This comment, this, response from you... your instinct to respond this way... is at the very CORE of the ideological divide.

See, conservatives in America and Trump supporters have a strong belief in Personal Responsibility. No matter what ANYONE on T.V. or in front of your face says, you are reaponsible and in control of, your own actions. You don't get to blame it on someone except in cases where you were unduely persuaded by threats or something like that.

As a responsible adult, I should be able to move into a house with people who have lots of guns, work at a job, like as a police officer for example, or a gun manufacturer, and just be around guns constantly for my whole life and there is nothing about those guns that will make me decide to go murder someone or go on a rampage. Anyone should be able to handle that.

When you teach people that they can blame their actions on someone else, it encourages this type of action. If people would reinforce personal responsibility rather than enabling this... weak, pathetic, mindset, who knows maybe we would see less off this mindless lashing out by frustrated individuals?

We are human beings for Gods sake, let's start wearing as a badge of pride not a dunce cap of shame... we Can be Better! We Can make better choices! We are NOT WEAK, we are STRONG!!! Get out of here with the negativity!

You can be responsible for your own words and actions. You can. It feels good.

If I see someone wearing a shirt with an image of Hillary or Obama, I do not let that image take control over me, nor do I let that person take control over me. I continue to be who I AM, which is a courteous, kind and helpful person.

At the end of the day, you are the only authority. You can lend that authority temporarily to others on the basis of trust, but that requires YOUR CONSENT, so you are still the Final Authority in All Matters.

The Presidency isn't like a mood ring. You don't say "Well, now this guy is POTUS so now I have to be a jerk to everyone esp if they're wearing a red hat." or "Oh yay now this other person is president so now I'm all hugs and giggles!" No, you ARE WHO YOU ARE, no matter who occupies the white house. Personal responsibility.

If you're acting like a jerk, it's not because the current president said something that reached into your brain and hypnotized you. It's because that's just what kind of person you are today. You're just being a jerk.

We all lose our cool sometimes.

But some of us let it become our personality, or defense mechanism, or comfort zone...

It's probably easy to slip in and out of various states of psychosis throughout your day when you are told lies your whole life like "its not your fault. some other person made you do that." and "everyone gets a trophy, there's no winners or losers" and "your skin color is harmful to others, youre existence is hurting them" and "borders are racist, so are immigration laws, the flag, oh and also history" etc etc etc...

After a while all the extra functions (mental gymnastics) necessary to create the artificial reality adds up, and so other brain functions suffer. They no longer have the ability to exercise logic to the degree necessary to understand that they have been fooled. So they're just trapped there in this false reality construct, feeding on lies, which is the only thing they know, its what their entire reality was constructed with. It got them this far in life, so they don't trust anything else.

You are correct about one thing. That bar employee likely was legally ok to kick anyone out for any reason. If he had Trump gear on, it could alter the atmosphere they are trying to provide for their customers. It's a petty thing to do but they are within their rights as far as I know.

a reply to: slahey

I do have a problem with this video,one of the men keeps saying he is a muslim.My understanding of islam is that
they don't drink alcohol,I can't see a muslim going into a bar.

a reply to: TrueBrit

last night I ate something that made my stomach sick-ish. Reading your comment made me throw up a little bit and now I feel much better. Thank you for that!

How do you manage every single one of your political comments be about racism, nazism, homofob - ism or any other blasted - ism...

Doing that while the person in your avatar, (which I am assuming is you) is in a full Labour party uniform whos leader is outspokenly anti semita...

Ohhh and referring to President Trump's hands, priceless...

a reply to: oloufo

No the divisiveness came from people slowly slipping out of the lustrous light of Obama, being grouped together as racist and bigots, the minute they questioned him. At the time it was no big revelation and those people degraded them and gave each other high fives not realizing how many others were pushed from the fray. They woke up the day after the election not knowing what hit them because they were drunk.on emboldenment. Then those people instead of questioning themselves decided to double down, and the media saw enough market in it to keep it going.

a reply to: KTemplar

If you were concerned about illegal immigration, you would be dealing with the method by which the majority of illegal immigration happens, but you aren't. Your nations ONLY major scale plan for preventing immigration, deals with the method by which the fewest people commit the crime of being where they have no papers to allow them access to. Its people who arrive legally, and over stay their visa who take up the majority of the space on the pie chart.