Is Transgender a symptom of Schizophrenia?

originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: Mahogany

Sure I'm not stingy, but it doesn't circumvent what you said.

Awesome.

Actually you perfectly circumvented everything I said. You missed the point 100%. And then you made stuff up and pretended like I said it.

But at least you missed it with a grin, right? Right?




Thanks, maybe one day I'll join you for whatever you're smoking. For now, Forgive me but I will skip over your conjecture.

Slippery slope here...

Will step my foot on it regardless:

Some people regardless of their sexual attachments or mountables can be more feminine or masculin. Maybe in the current hysteria, this is confused or even encouraged that now that you know this, you have to be in the wrong body and therefor must join the transgender movement.

In no way do I have anything against homosexuals or transgender as long as they don´t demand the 99% of the rest of the population to dance to their fiddle. However I am of the opinion that a good portion of the current new transgender people are just too influencable because they are young and their hormon system isn´t setup completely.

If you ask me, it goes against the medical oath to do the conversion between the two sexes if they have not reached full maturity, which is by law 18 or 21, depending on where you life in most parts of the world.

It´s not a right to be able to change your sex, just as you can´t demand from a doctor who gave the medical oath to cut away your limbs because you want to sit in a wheelchair for life, because you find this to be a good idea.

Biological sex is binary.

Don't be a science denier.

a reply to: Mahogany

It's okay if you need to find excuses for yourself, at the end of the day I seriously don't care what you tell yourself, whatever bull# you wish to say to feel better.

The BRAIN determines who you are.

NOT the PHYSICAL Body.

It's really that simple.

Brain wiring and chemical make-up.

Brain science is a relatively new science. But, they have learned a lot. Like how the brain has far more to do with who you are, then once thought.

originally posted by: Annee
The BRAIN determines who you are.

NOT the PHYSICAL Body.

It's really that simple.

Brain wiring and chemical make-up.

Brain science is a relatively new science. But, they have learned a lot. Like how the brain has far more to do with who you are, then once thought.

So no more social construct narrative?

Pretty sure there are quite a few people on this site living with Schizophrenia who can tell you quite categorically that they are switching genders as a result of their condition.

Like wise I am sure that there are plenty of transfolks out there who arn't hearing voices.

Kind of debunks the whole premise of the OP

originally posted by: neo96
Biological sex is binary.

Don't be a science denier.

Is that why nature creates hybrids? Men with vaginas? Women with penises? Men and women with one of each?

All genetically intact and functional? Accepted in many cultures outside ours?

Don't be a science pretender. You obviously don't know the first thing about what you're saying. Although I have no doubt you will keep pretending that you do.

originally posted by: neo96
Biological sex is binary.

Don't be a science denier.

Hehe....another one.

Someone who doesn't understand the difference between biological sexual designation and gender.

ohhhh how amusing.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Pretty sure there are quite a few people on this site living with Schizophrenia who can tell you quite categorically that they are switching genders as a result of their condition.

Like wise I am sure that there are plenty of transfolks out there who arn't hearing voices.

Kind of debunks the whole premise of the OP

Oh you don't believe armchair psychologists OP?

hahaha.

a reply to: Mahogany

You have a very well thought out point that i havent considered fully. I have thought most of it but as far as homosexuality i wouldnt really consider 3% as being considered as normality. Thats a drastic minority. If you want to say it is sognificant, well, we can equate disease to across all animals. Disease happens 100% across every species. Thats something we dont choose. Every disease or disability is different. Not everyone gets it but a small minority does. Of all species.

a reply to: Mahogany

Yeah puppies and kitties spend thousands of dollars and pump themselves full of big pharmaceuticals so dolphins can turn one in to the other.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin

originally posted by: neo96
Biological sex is binary.

Don't be a science denier.

Hehe....another one.

Someone who doesn't understand the difference between biological sexual designation and gender.

ohhhh how amusing.

It's an echo chamber as everyone says.

A GED can feel like a PhD on these forums, given enough echo.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Someone who doesn't understand the difference between biological sexual designation and gender.

Spend more money on a college 'education'.

DNA don't lie.

Had a "tomboy"-girl as my best friend, she always marveled how she liked to have a penis and be a boy. Didn´t wear dresses and came home muddy and dirty. That was when she was 13 years old. Turns out this was because she had four sisters and a brother. The brother was treated better than the girls. This was the reason, we spoke about that in a relaxed minute not too long ago, you know the "good old times" and it was something she thought about on her own, regarding the current transgender movement. Even before we talked about this.

She´s now a great grand mother and laughs at her talk from then. She´s still of a more masculin type of person and only wears dresses now because it´s easier to get in. But she cringes at the idea that because she was more into boys games, that she would have changed her sexual organs.

TODAY, such a person might be unknowingly used by the movement for more momentum, while in reality will destroy lifes in future. They take the fall for the movement, how does the saying go, no war without civil casualties...

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Someone who doesn't understand the difference between biological sexual designation and gender.

Spend more money on a college 'education'.

DNA don't lie.

Yes lets laugh at the educated!

Thats how you deny ignorance!

a reply to: PhatalError

I would say that multiple-personality disorders -- like Dissociative Identity Disorder? -- may account for some, but I think it's only one of many causes/reasons. Transgender persons usually have more than one mental/emotional disorder.

But according to many, the most prevalent is autogynephilia -- 80% or more. These would be heterosexual males who transition to female and remain attracted to women, and who retain the same levels/patterns of male violence -- particularly against women. As opposed to homosexual males who transition and remain attracted to men.

Its a controversial and much disputed theory/premise that really needs further examination and study, but seems to fit a widely reported pattern.

originally posted by: queenofswords
I think being gay is different from being a transgender person. Most gays don't want to change anything. Transgender people are dysphoric to the point of debilitation pushing them to change their physiology. From what I have read, once they change their physical body, the dysphoria may or may not go away. Suicide rates are very high in the trans community.

Imagine struggling with a nightmare of your body not matching what your brain says, and on top of that, having your family disown you and add to that, everyone else around you refusing to tolerate you at best, and bullying/attacking you at worst.

Study after study after study says that suicide rates go down dramatically among transgender people when they have the support of family and friends, as well as not being ganged up on by the rest of society.

www.usatoday.com...

originally posted by: neo96
Biological sex is binary.

Don't be a science denier.

Not true. There are many species that are transsexual by nature.