Alabama McDonald's gunman killed by armed dad, who is injured in shootout

In other news today: "Rare and deadly Sharknado foiled by lone hero throwing running chainsaws into the sky".

"Batman finally killed by evil villain "The Dad" who shoots before explaining evil plot".

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: YouSir

That's how the left and the media lie to say mass shootings aren't prevented. If you kill them before they kill people then it's not a mass shooting and you can't prove it would be.

Kill them before they are born, perhaps?

It will also save on the college fees.

originally posted by: kelbtalfenek

originally posted by: Krakatoa




Imagine that, an armed and trained citizen foils an attempted mass shooting before police arrive with no others hurt or killed.

Where in the article does it say that he's trained? Or are you just making that up?

That said, I'm glad no one got killed.

He's "inferring" it from the fact that dude probably has a CCL (even though Alabama requires ZERO training to obtain a CCL) and the fact that dude managed to hit the bad guy at least once during the exchange of gunfire. Apparently the only conclusion one can reach from those facts is that the good guy is "trained."

Who knows, maybe the dude is a competitive three-gun shooter and all he does is train, all day every day. But evidently it's already a fact that he's trained, based entirely off what little information is available.

"I've come here to eat Big Macs and kick ass. And I'm all out of Big Macs."

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Krakatoa

why dont you admit - that you are just making crap up ?

Why don't you just admit you're being called out for BS and can't stand it, so you resort to being willfully dense and salty about it 😌

a reply to: Krakatoa

Alabama resident here.

Open carry is completely legal, though business/property owners retain the ability to ask the open carrier to disarm or leave. The only penalty is a trespassing charge. There are restrictions on open/concealed carry into government buildings or secure areas.

There is no training requirement for a concealed weapons permit. An applicant applies at their local sheriff's office, gets a background check, and pays their money to get one. That's it. Any training the concealed carrier has is up to them. Some take the responsibility more seriously than others.

Most shootings in Alabama are perpetrated by persons prohibited to own/possess a firearm or juveniles, not permit holders. Although it is not uncommon to see news stories where an armed citizen thwarted crime around here.

I'm glad that that guy had a gun and stopped the guy from killing people there. I am sorry to hear he and his son got wounded. We need more good citizens in our country that will protect the good people from the bad.

originally posted by: Krakatoa

originally posted by: kelbtalfenek

originally posted by: Krakatoa




Imagine that, an armed and trained citizen foils an attempted mass shooting before police arrive with no others hurt or killed.

Where in the article does it say that he's trained? Or are you just making that up?

That said, I'm glad no one got killed.

Read my response to that question in this thread. I shouldn't have to repeat myself to someone inferring I am a liar.

Seems you're triggered lol. I read the article in question...it doesn't specify that he's been trained. You're the one making inferences.

Justice is a dish best served cold. Good riddance. Hope the dad has a speedy recovery.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: Sookiechacha

MAY have .. but to open fire during a robbery is pretty stupid because police are immediately called by everyone in the area hearing it.

No argument their... I think we can all agree that the shooter was incredibly stupid.

Regardless, this had the potential to turn deadly, and was stopped by an armed citizen.

Yeah, but he also put his son in harms way... who could of just as easily sustained a fatal wound.

A good guy killed a bad guy who was firing a weapon in a public place. Hooray for the good guy.

Seems to me the "trained" part is self-evident to those with normal brain functions. He hit the bad guy in a very tense situation. Plenty of LEOs out there who can't do that and they're "trained" officially. Blessings on the guy and his son.

originally posted by: chr0naut
In other news today: "Rare and deadly Sharknado foiled by lone hero throwing running chainsaws into the sky".

"Batman finally killed by evil villain "The Dad" who shoots before explaining evil plot".

Lovely logic there.

Tell me. Are you vaccinated? Do they work? How do you know? Can you point to anyone who didn't die of a disease because of a vaccine?

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: chr0naut
In other news today: "Rare and deadly Sharknado foiled by lone hero throwing running chainsaws into the sky".

"Batman finally killed by evil villain "The Dad" who shoots before explaining evil plot".

Lovely logic there.

Tell me. Are you vaccinated? Do they work? How do you know? Can you point to anyone who didn't die of a disease because of a vaccine?

Yes, I'm vaccinated and vaccinations do work. Several endemic diseases are now all but eradicated from the human population and now only exist in the laboratory.

There has been much evidence for the effectiveness of immunization, going back as far as in ancient China, however, the modern scientifically observed use of vaccination is regarded as beginning with Edward Jenner in the early 1700's.

a reply to: Subaeruginosa

Or he saved his son's life. Or the lives of others.

he also put his son in harms way

Seemed as though he was already in harm's way due to the first shooter. The dad removed him from harm's way.

This is what it is all about - a father able to protect his kids and the lives of others from a gunman.
In another state, there would be many dead.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Krakatoa

yes seriously - stop being an evasive little wingnut

the gun man shot at ????????????????????????

the " dad " shot at the gun man

its an important question

Said the uncomprehending wingnut..

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: Krakatoa

A more factual headline would have been: "Two gunmen exchange fire in an Alabama McDonalds. One dead, two with minor injuries".

Inference about motive and potential outcomes is entirely unfounded.

It could just as realistically been "A confused Halloween prankster gets the date wrong and is taken down by an armed killer" or "Accidental discharge of robbers weapon in an Alabama McDonald leads to fatal shooting".

That is the problem with US News. It is 80% spin.

Oh puhleeze! You are being rediculous. A criminal started causing trouble and was put down. And you wanna call the hero dad "just another gunman exchanging fire with another gunman"?

He was leaving the place with his sons and risked his life going back in to stop him because he knew that guy was gonna end up hurting someone. And you wanna pretend there might be some other motive? Maybe it was a hate crime? What motive are you talking about?

And who cares if a ROBBERS GUN MISFIRES (more than once?) hes still an armed robber, blow the # bastards head off!!!

Your "halloween prank but they got the date wrong" is just laughable...

Its obvious you're extremely desperate to find any outlandish reason to believe that this story can't be a good guy stopping a bad guy.
We get it...
Citizens learning to be capable of self defense is a bad thing, they shouldve huddled in the corner waiting for the police to show up.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Krakatoa

yes seriously - stop being an evasive little wingnut

the gun man shot at ????????????????????????

Ass sphincter says, "what?"

"What?"

EXACTLY.

originally posted by: ignorant_ape
a reply to: Krakatoa

so what did the gunman shoot first ??

Greedo