Media trying to make Nationalism a racist idea

C'mon, if he'd meant patriotism, he'd have said patriotism.

He meant nationalism with its historic connection to fascism and racism.

And the OP knows that too.

Trump is clearly racist, and his defense of racists and fascist is real and unambiguous.

And that's why most of you support him. You won't admit it. But it's why.

originally posted by: Moresby
C'mon, if he'd meant patriotism, he'd have said patriotism.

He meant nationalism with its historic connection to fascism and racism.

And the OP knows that too.

Trump is clearly racist, and his defense of racists and fascist is real and unambiguous.

And that's why most of you support him. You won't admit it. But it's why.

Yep us trump supporters are all racist

Wanting America first policies is racist

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Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must never learn this truth for they will turn against us. For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars. They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the realm of enlightenment. This they will never know. The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late. Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves. “When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their prison. They will live in self-delusion. When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin. Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial. “But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW. If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action. They must never, ever find out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and no person shall give us shelter. “This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality will transcend many generations and life spans. This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came.” “This covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist.

It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is, the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself."

originally posted by: seeker1963

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: seeker1963

If Nationalists are Somehow Considered Racist , what do You Consider Globalists to be ? ....Hmm........

The odd thing is if we are such a Racist country full of Nazi's, why do so many people want to come here?? But yea, this whole social conditioning, twisting young minds to think Nationalism is a bad thing is necessary for Globalism to survive and thrive.

Most people don't.

And it is actually a huge and increasing problem for America - it is mostly those with little other choice that stay. Those that come to the U.S. to study finish up their degree and research and gtfo. And those are the ones that you'd want to stay.

Overseas interest in (legal) immigration is slowing down and has been since around the turn of the millenium - the numbers are a bit deceptive because of the quota - and the brain drain to the US has all but stopped. Worse than that, the Chinese and even the Indian are starting their own brain drain.

Tech & research are seriously on the rise in China and India and at the same time tech, research and manufacturing are in overall decline in the US.

If you have a choice, you don't go to the US - from an outside perspective there are no future there.

originally posted by: ElectricUniverse
a reply to: whereislogic

Perhaps you forget that God promised the chosen people a country of their own. Isn't that part of nationalism?

I think you can figure that out on your own if having another look at the definition for "nationalism" in the OP or one of my comments that repeats the most relevant part to see if that definition applies (in its entirety).

a reply to: Grambler

Hi....

I wanted to state upfront that I lack any and all knowledge in these matters and it would take me half a day on Wikipedia to even understand a concept like nationalism. I respect that people "root" for their country and that they have every right to think their nation's morals and principles are the best for their citizens but I have to ask (in my ignorance):

: loyalty and devotion to a nation especially : a sense of national consciousness (see consciousness sense 1c) exalting one nation above all others and placing primary emphasis on promotion of its culture and interests as opposed to those of other nations or supranational groups

Why does it have to be "above" others?

To me this comes across as a competition....and competition always has a winner and a looser, right?

Peace

ETA: sorry for the ignorant question, I do this sometimes....

a reply to: operation mindcrime

Like you said, you don't understand. It's about wanting our leaders to look out for our interests first. It's not about being unfair to anyone, that's actually globalism.

The old NAFTA deal had losers, Americans. That's a globalist deal. The new NAFTA deal has no losers, everyone wins. That's nationalism. Every nation looks after it's people and makes deals favorable to them. When both sides get something favorable to their side we all win.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Thank you for that eloquent reply and yeah I still don't understand...

Nationalism, as I read the definition, seem to divide because somebody wants to be better than somebody else...

Is this thread not confusing nationalism with patriotism?

Peace

originally posted by: operation mindcrime
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Thank you for that eloquent reply and yeah I still don't understand...

Nationalism, as I read the definition, seem to divide because somebody wants to be better than somebody else...

Is this thread not confusing nationalism with patriotism?

Peace

Yes it is confusing the two.

a reply to: luthier

I couldn't imagine anything else...

Was just reading up on what Orwell had to say..

A nationalist is one who thinks solely, or mainly, in terms of competitive prestige. He may be a positive or a negative nationalist—that is, he may use his mental energy either in boosting or in denigrating—but at any rate his thoughts always turn on victories, defeats, triumphs and humiliations. He sees history, especially contemporary history, as the endless rise and decline of great power units and every event that happens seems to him a demonstration that his own side is on the upgrade and some hated rival is on the downgrade

Peace

a reply to: operation mindcrime

Nationalism is also used to divide the public and is a fascist tool.

Like now. Democrats are not nationalists. Republicans are therefore vote for the people who love America.

Patriotism would be pride in your country including the democratic vets (check out how many are running as Democrats in 2018).

We are not our enemies. The parties are the enemy.

a reply to: luthier

It only divides those that hate America.

Remember, Trump can't make America great again because it was never great. And I refuse to respect a flag that is a symbol of oppression.

Promoting America first is divisive to people who think those things.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: luthier

It only divides those that hate America.

Remember, Trump can't make America great again because it was never great. And I refuse to respect a flag that is a symbol of oppression.

Promoting America first is divisive to people who think those things.

Lol, looks like you found the right line to join.

If being a nationalist means disliking half the population it would seem you are the subject of mind control.

a reply to: operation mindcrime

Actually the two were originally synonyms. Nationalism doesn't divide but like everything else could be used as a tool for division. The only inherent division in nationalism are between those who want their country to come first and those that want to put other countries first to the detriment of this country.

I'm an American, I think America is the best. He's British, he thinks England is the best. There is no division and we can be best friends and work together to achieve the best for both our countries.

a reply to: luthier

Half the country hates America and thinks America was never great?

You believe that?

Because most Democrats I know are nationalist, who disagree with what their party is doing and thinks their party will do better despite the Dem leaders doubling down.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: luthier

Half the country hates America and thinks America was never great?

You believe that?

Because most Democrats I know are nationalist, who disagree with what their party is doing and thinks their party will do better despite the Dem leaders doubling down.

Half the country is at war with the other, let me rephrase 27 percent are Republican 29 Democrat and the 42 percent of us are not insane and independent.

No most people are not nationalist. They are patriotic. Two different things.

a reply to: luthier

You can keep parroting crap but they are nationalist, and even if you are right no patriotic person is agreeing with Democrats that America can't ever become great again because it's never ever been great.

People who fly Mexico flags must be "racist" then, too.