Trump confirms US to pull out of nuclear treaty with Russia

a reply to: shawmanfromny

How is this move safer for americans?

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: shawmanfromny

How is this move safer for americans?

What good is a treaty if only one side follows it?

For those of you who think this is a good idea......

Does the risk of a new nuclear arms race not at least give you pause to question him in making this decision?

originally posted by: scraedtosleep
a reply to: shawmanfromny

How is this move safer for americans?

I have no idea but quite a few people seem to be taking about how if the Russians aren't falling it then neither should the Americans....so lets just all start building up our nukes again and have 30 years of teaching kids what to do in the event of a nuclear strike.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Wow.

I'm impressed by the mental gymnastics you did there.

What if......

This "treaty", as many others that Trump left in these 2 years, were POINTLESS? We know Russia is secretly developing Nuclear weapons, so as the U.S., and Iran, and China, etc.

Makes less sense to you than Trump being a Putin's minion that was recruited in his childhood and prepared during a lifetime for this position, so he could deliver the World power to the Russians?

Hell, I need to roll another one to read this thread.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
Does the risk of a new nuclear arms race

Russia has already started when they violated the treaty by building their new nuclear cruise missile.

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
For those of you who think this is a good idea......

Does the risk of a new nuclear arms race not at least give you pause to question him in making this decision?

That was the narrative the left was pushing back in 2016 when Trump and Kim were trading aggressive tweets, and look where we are.

The word is a safer place now than it was 2 years ago with ISIS and #. Don't try to sell your doom-leftist-porn for the awaken, man. You'll lose your job.

Trump is not interested in any type of war. That's why the Globalists want him OUT.

It is my understanding that the Pentagon confirmed Russia violated the INF treaty awhile ago... I believe it was deployment of the SSC-8.

I don't think the decision to withdraw was solely based on Russia's noncompliance, but also to help the US counter the Chinese arms buildup occurring in the Pacific.

A2D

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I'm still waiting to get out of the first nuclear arms race. If we still have nukes then the race is still going.

a reply to: vinifalou

Its not mental gymnastics I am only presenting one of several possibilities am not claiming it to be a fact or even saying I believe it.

I was only offering up one possible scenario in which this could be a benefit for the Russians.

I know you might struggle to understand this but its possible to look at things in that way when you not blinded by partisan left vs right politics.

a reply to: OccamsRazor04

Russia have so many weapons it can only lead to MAD.

a reply to: Agree2Disagree

I don't think the decision to withdraw was solely based on Russia's noncompliance, but also to help the US counter the Chinese arms buildup occurring in the Pacific.

hmmmm I didn't think about that, its a interesting idea.

Thanks for posting got me thinking about that.

If China isn't part of the deal but America is then I guess it limits their ability to match Chinese advancements and this gives the Americans the excuse to leave.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I think one of the best moves for trump is war with russia. ( worst move for the world)

It takes a lot of the heat off him from the left.

It guarantees the dems don't take the senate and really hurts their chances in the house.

If we are fighting russia at the time, trump will be potus in 2020.

But only if russia attacks first.

Remember this treaty didn't just limit them it limited us.
But not anymore.

New arms race coming? I don't think so.

But russia and I will be adding some new toys to the arsenals.

Did anyone notice the new space based "toys" everyone has been testing over the last few years?

It's almost like the world powers see what's coming while they all make it happen.

a reply to: vinifalou

This isn't exchanging a few nasty tweets this is pulling out of a key treaty in nuclear non-proliferation.

Not exactly the same thing now is it?

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
For those of you who think this is a good idea......

Does the risk of a new nuclear arms race not at least give you pause to question him in making this decision?

It literally makes no difference.

We are expected to honor treaties with Russia while they repeatedly violate them?

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: vinifalou

This isn't exchanging a few nasty tweets this is pulling out of a key treaty in nuclear non-proliferation.

Not exactly the same thing now is it?

Again, what good is a treaty if only one side is following it?

Can anyone answer that?

Once upon a time in a galaxy far far away....

You just made that up, didn’t you. Or got your information from CNN?a reply to: Allaroundyou

originally posted by: ausername

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
For those of you who think this is a good idea......

Does the risk of a new nuclear arms race not at least give you pause to question him in making this decision?

It literally makes no difference.

We are expected to honor treaties with Russia while they repeatedly violate them?

I think it does.

It means now Russia doesn't have to obey but any of that treaty anymore, it opens up the president for pulling out of other nuclear non-proliferation treaties and in general just adds to nuclear tensions.

I get that you might disagree with me and thats fine but I personally fail to see any real positives in this.

originally posted by: Vector99

originally posted by: OtherSideOfTheCoin
a reply to: vinifalou

This isn't exchanging a few nasty tweets this is pulling out of a key treaty in nuclear non-proliferation.

Not exactly the same thing now is it?

Again, what good is a treaty if only one side is following it?

Can anyone answer that?

Then in that case I think they should negotiate a new treaty and keep the existing one in place for as that takes, if its not working for both sides then I think they should both be open to sitting down and devising a new treaty.

I mean lets be clear.

Russia should not be breaching the treaty, that is wrong, I am as against that as I am just pulling out of the treaty.