Kavanaugh- What if he did do those things?

Ok let's just for one moment look at the other side.

Let's just say he did do inappropriate things 30/35 years ago.
What if he has not had any misconduct since. Not a single coworker, neighbor, etc.
I think we are going down a very slippery slope.

I'm not saying I believe or do not believe the allegations. I am questioning the whole "movement" of looking at a person's conduct from a time when that conduct was considered ok.

Should people be held responsible for things that were considered somewhat the "norm" back then.

If you are not over 40, you can't imagine what times were like back then.
I think we'd all be in jail. - I'm serious.

Kids used to make mixed drinks for their parents, we used to buy cigarettes, we used to sit on our parents lap while the car was driving, we used to take sips of beer with adults, we used to pinch people on the butt if they didn't wear green on st. Patrick's day. Seriously, I could write ten pages of things we did back then that would probably get us all arrested today.

a reply to: JAGStorm

And this is the exact thing the Democracts want you to do. Let's have a discussion.....no thank you. Not today...have a vote to take care of first.

a reply to: Justso

If you think this is the only time this is going to come up you are mistaken. This is the new norm.

a reply to: JAGStorm

It isn't new-and it isn't normal. The metoo started this and politicized it and it became expediant to use in the Kavanaugh confirmation.

Same ole same old politics. Doesn't really matter if it's the demos this time-the repugs will retaliate.

a reply to: JAGStorm

Since none of us have lived perfect lives, what he did 35 years ago at a party should not be held against him now. Kavanaugh has been on the second highest court as a judge for several years already. He's clean.

a reply to: JAGStorm
I can see perhaps overlooking the exposing incident.

But I am sorry, if he tried to rip of a girls close who was screaming, and covered her mouth to stop her, that is a huge deal to me, and I would want him disqualified for that.

If it happened, how would YOU prove it, or is that even necessary?

the bottom line is he's a conservative, and that was his major mistake.

IF he was a liberal, he would be Sen Booker

Harvard University has Primal Scream and Streaking...so everyone at Harvard cannot be ......

a reply to: JAGStorm


What if Kavanaugh masterminded 9/11?
What if Kavanaugh has Hillary's emails?
What Kavanaugh had Bigfoot's baby?

originally posted by: JAGStorm
Ok let's just for one moment look at the other side.

Let's just say he did do inappropriate things 30/35 years ago.
What if he has not had any misconduct since. Not a single coworker, neighbor, etc.
I think we are going down a very slippery slope.

I'm not saying I believe or do not believe the allegations. I am questioning the whole "movement" of looking at a person's conduct from a time when that conduct was considered ok.

Should people be held responsible for things that were considered somewhat the "norm" back then.

If you are not over 40, you can't imagine what times were like back then.
I think we'd all be in jail. - I'm serious.

Kids used to make mixed drinks for their parents, we used to buy cigarettes, we used to sit on our parents lap while the car was driving, we used to take sips of beer with adults, we used to pinch people on the butt if they didn't wear green on st. Patrick's day. Seriously, I could write ten pages of things we did back then that would probably get us all arrested today.

Man, the old days were great. You could actually live and have fun with each other. Then we started letting all the whiners get there way and not you can barely stand your fellow human beings. Now we are on a full out race to the bottom. It is sad really. But thanks for reminding me how life used to be.

a reply to: JAGStorm

I'm not saying I believe or do not believe the allegations. I am questioning the whole "movement" of looking at a person's conduct from a time when that conduct was considered ok.

Attempted rape was never considered "okay". We're talking about boys at a Catholic Prep school. Do you think that school officials thought the boys actions were "okay" at the time"? Do you think, back in the day the whole Catholic Church thought that priests molesting youngsters was okay back then too?

Do you think Ford's parents', had she told them what happened, would have said, "Oh well, these are the times we live in. Boys will be boys." Or, do you think her father and brothers, if she has any, would have gone over and beat the crap out of Kavanaugh?

Vote.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: JAGStorm


What if Kavanaugh masterminded 9/11?
What if Kavanaugh has Hillary's emails?
What Kavanaugh had Bigfoot's baby?

The more I look at this woman, the more she looks familiar.

Hey, wait a second.

She might of assaulted me when I was drinking 40 years ago.

Where is my hearing ?

Jesus, why do you hate women?

a reply to: JAGStorm

That's the whole thing... Even if he DID do what she says, I would have to write it off because it's been nearly 4 decades since this happened and what's done is dust in the wind. He didn't murder anyone, he wasn't charged and put on a wanted list, none of that... This shouldn't even be an issue.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

This is what I am referring to, today we call it attempted rape, but back then there was a lot of rough horseplay like that (times have changes and yes for the better but we have to remember times were different then).

This was also a time when you could give a teacher of the opposite sex a long hug. One of my male teachers actually took a friend and I out of town for the weekend and our parents were totally ok with that. We were 14yr old girls and he was in his 50s! Can you imagine that today?

There were guys that pulled down girls skirts (there were guys that pulled down other guys shorts) I guarantee you they weren't trying to rape anyone, but fast forward 35 years and it might appear that way.

I'm not saying that no guys ever tried to rape anyone, of course they did back then and there are a lot that got away with it, but i'm saying there were a lot of cases that might have seemed like it that weren't.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JAGStorm

I'm not saying I believe or do not believe the allegations. I am questioning the whole "movement" of looking at a person's conduct from a time when that conduct was considered ok.

Attempted rape was never considered "okay". We're talking about boys at a Catholic Prep school. Do you think that school officials thought the boys actions were "okay" at the time"? Do you think, back in the day the whole Catholic Church thought that priests molesting youngsters was okay back then too?

Do you think Ford's parents', had she told them what happened, would have said, "Oh well, these are the times we live in. Boys will be boys." Or, do you think her father and brothers, if she has any, would have gone over and beat the crap out of Kavanaugh?

They probably would have asked him about it and then he would have told them, once he got back for the summer, that he'd been out of town.

a reply to: IAMTAT

What if _______ had Scalia killed?
What if _______ suggested a coup attempt?...
What if it comes out that MUELLER did “something” at “some time?”

originally posted by: JAGStorm
a reply to: Sookiechacha

This is what I am referring to, today we call it attempted rape, but back then there was a lot of rough horseplay like that (times have changes and yes for the better but we have to remember times were different then).

This was also a time when you could give a teacher of the opposite sex a long hug. One of my male teachers actually took a friend and I out of town for the weekend and our parents were totally ok with that. We were 14yr old girls and he was in his 50s! Can you imagine that today?

There were guys that pulled down girls skirts (there were guys that pulled down other guys shorts) I guarantee you they weren't trying to rape anyone, but fast forward 35 years and it might appear that way.

I'm not saying that no guys ever tried to rape anyone, of course they did back then and there are a lot that got away with it, but i'm saying there were a lot of cases that might have seemed like it that weren't.

Yep. You can watch pretty much any 80's movie and see how things were. They were made in the image of the way things were.

a reply to: MRinder

I would totally go back to the late 70's early 80's anytime.