New info on Charlottesville Fields car attack

originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Lagomorphe
Yet another that thinks AR stands for Assault Rifle
AR is the stock trading symbol for the Armalite corporation
And if you own multiple firearms , one may be an "AR"

Now , my due diligence to the ATS motto has been done already this am

Denying ignorance

Just out of interest... What is the exact meaning of AR?

Armalite, it's the company that first made the AR-15.
www.armalite.com...

Ruger also makes a weapon that shoots the same ammo, and has magazines that hold 30 rounds. But it has a wooden stock and looks much less scary.
Mini-14.
en.wikipedia.org...

both are essentially the same weapon, one scares the uninformed, one looks like something a bloke in England might hunt with.

Have a great day.

originally posted by: network dude
both are essentially the same weapon, one scares the uninformed, one looks like something a bloke in England might hunt with.

And both are good for zombies. Which is what I put on my NICS paperwork when I got mine.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: Lagomorphe

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Lagomorphe
Yet another that thinks AR stands for Assault Rifle
AR is the stock trading symbol for the Armalite corporation
And if you own multiple firearms , one may be an "AR"

Now , my due diligence to the ATS motto has been done already this am

Denying ignorance

Just out of interest... What is the exact meaning of AR?

Armalite, it's the company that first made the AR-15.
www.armalite.com...

Ruger also makes a weapon that shoots the same ammo, and has magazines that hold 30 rounds. But it has a wooden stock and looks much less scary.
Mini-14.
en.wikipedia.org...

both are essentially the same weapon, one scares the uninformed, one looks like something a bloke in England might hunt with.

Have a great day.

Thanks Net.

Blokes in England only hunt with fists and headbutts cos we are well hard...

Saying that, I have been out of the UK for over 27 years now so I only fight with my willy.

Kindest respects

Lags

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: network dude
both are essentially the same weapon, one scares the uninformed, one looks like something a bloke in England might hunt with.

And both are good for zombies. Which is what I put on my NICS paperwork when I got mine.

I think you need to stick with the AR-10 for that. Fast zombies scare me the worst. You need a bigger hammer.
damn, now I'm going to be worrying about fast zombies all morning.

a reply to: Lagomorphe

joo got it mang.

ETA: fighting with the willy sounds bad. How would you use that against fast zombies?

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: Lagomorphe

joo got it mang.

ETA: fighting with the willy sounds bad. How would you use that against fast zombies?

Slap em around the head with it...

I'm fast...

Kind of unusual for such a nice car to have such dark tint on the windows. Usually people who drive such cars are very vain and like to be seen.

a reply to: MteWamp

Not true I beat my 16 year olds butt and to this day still whipping my 5 year old. The older one learned to listen and be respectful early haven't had to beat him in many years the younger one is hard headed like me so with him it will be a hard road. None the less I stuck with corporal punishment because I saw how my cousins kids turned out.

The older one learned to listen and be respectful early haven't had to beat him in many years the younger one is hard headed like me so with him it will be a hard road. None the less I stuck with corporal punishment because I saw how my cousins kids turned out.

Never beat my kids as it is not about if they respect you through actions but more about they are scared sh%%tless of you every time you raise a fist or boot to them...

Our kids respect us at home through educational discourse and mutual respect.

That's just my opinion and experience though...

As a kid I had seven bells of crap kicked out of me big time... I was more scared than anything else and certainly did not respect the person who beat me when I was old enough to understand.

Kindest regards

Lags

a reply to: Parishna

Easy accessibility, for th emost part. And customizable, which is nice. We all like to adjust the seat in our vehicle, right?

But really...the only difference between an AR and the mini 14 is the mini 14 has a wood stock. I utilize both in the exact same way....except my AR has rails to make accessories easier to mount and customize.

I hunt hogs. I typically use a bolt action or lever action while hunting. I have my sidearm for closer quarters if one charges. But i've seen ahog take a 20 gauge to the face from 10 feet and still charge. But to me the point is to harvest food, not eradicate. That is something that better prepared professionals should focus on.

Wrong forum for this reply.

Decided to keep my post to myself.

Great post ATA, wish I could reply how I initially wanted to. But look into connections between Charlettsville ANTIFA (90% out of town) and foreign terror groups like Boko Haram and the Muslim brotherhood.

a reply to: JBurns

Turned in to a hog hunting discussion.
Your reply can't be any more OT than this whole page.

a reply to: Asktheanimals

So I started to reply to this last night and a caveat for anyone who is trying to verify aspects of this: the Ford Fischer video is flipped horizontally. I was trying to ascertain if the camera was pointed at 4th street by identifying the buildings. If you look in the left of frame, you'll see a building with the white slotted features on its facade. That's the building on the corner of 5th & E Main with the Market Street Garage.

My first thought was, "Hey, this is on the left, so the camera is pointing E/SE." Then I identified the Commonwealth Restaurant & Skybar which is the white building on the right with the visible railing around the first story roof. That's when I realized that the Fischer footage was flipped.

Just a heads up for anyone following along. Anyway, I can't identify the car from the few pixels. I think we can however ascertain some things from the Gilmore video. Moving along.

In a later interview at 19:55 a local woman in a green shirt states that "90% of everyone there was from out of town" which Landers agreed with. She also believes the stand down by the police was to force both sides to fight it out. She further goes on to place the blame on Charlottesville's mayor and city council stating that "they should resign".

What actual unique insight is there here?

Here's some video shot on Aug. 12, 2017 after the car attack in Charlottesville byJames Fields. Charlottesville resident Jackson Landers of RE wire news does his first interview at 11:05 with a guy who says that Fields' car was stuck between other cars when people started "tapping on his car, like get out of here". Fields then backed his car in to another before he sped forward hitting people as he went indiscriminately according to this man.

From the Gilmore video, there's clearly no cars immediately in front or behind his when he hits the gas:



If there's rear end damage, it's so slight that it's unnoticeable given the video quality. There also don't appear to be all that many people on the block before the point he speeds up into the crowd. You can't tell from that video but from the drone footage, you can see he's actually driving toward a higher concentration of people who are walking his direction:



Now look back at the Gilmore video starting with him backing up. There are no cars behind him for the two blocks visible in the footage (that would be 4th St) as the camera pans to follow the Charger. Furthermore, there are very few people mulling around and basically nobody on the sidewalks.

So if the theory here is that this murdering neo-Nazi douche was running for his life from tapping, it really doesn't stand up under modest scrutiny unless he "fled" 2 or more blocks at a low rate of speed in the direction of an oncoming crowd only to speed up at the last minute to plow into a bunch of people.

Nobody was chasing him. He wasn't boxed in. That's all readily apparent from the Gilmore video.

These strange little facts leave one to doubt the official story that is being told us. That and the fact the right wing marchers up on market street were trying to leave and leftists were the ones continually attacking them resulting in the ugly scene in the parking garage. Add in crash of police helicopter that was present at the time of the car attack.

No, not really. Ah yes, the innocent "right-wing marchers." That sounds a lot better than an invading horde of violent neo-Nazis, neo-Confederates and various white nationalists/white supremacists, some armed, who the night before had marched through town with torches chanting Nazi slogans before surrounding and beating the # out of a bunch of college kids.

Lots of Democratic Socialists in that crowd, was this another deep state operation?

What? What do democratic socialists have to do with the "deep state" again?

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: DigginFoTroof

I know people that live in Charlottesville. I know people that knew Heather Heyer. I know people that were mere feet away from being run over.

This event happened and it's absolutely sickening how many people on this site try to defend/justify a Nazi terrorist.

How or where did I justify or defend any of this? You people come out of the woodwork and make proclamation like this all the time when people simple state what is observed. I have no reason one way or the other to support either side and by this post you are again dividing people into two groups and using the Nazi card. Get a grip and stop that nonsense.

So did you know her personally, like met her in the flesh or online?

We have something in common (well maybe..) I knew someone on that street when it happened too and saw them in a video and that makes me suspicious of the thing for a few reasons but that is much after the fact of seeing all the other evidence I found before identifying them in a video - it was just an extra piece of oddity.

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a reply to: Asktheanimals

Meanwhile...

Brennan and others reported that the charger driven by Fields came flying down 4th st with no warning. I'm having a little trouble figuring out why this very gray car that looks exactly like a charger is sitting just up the street before the march up 4th st even begins. Like I've said, something about this event is not what we're being told. There's still that missing 1:20 from the time the charger crosses the downtown mall to the time of the crash according to the Ford Fischer livestream. 4th st was supposedly shut down to vehicular traffic that day according to the CPD. How did these cars and 1 truck end up there?

Look up the street in the first few seconds using full screen - the gray charger is sitting there below the mall and is not at Market st.
Also at 1:06 go frame by frame watching the guy in the black shirt to the right of the free hugs guy. He has a pistol in his right hand.

Still looks like a Nazi snapped and went on a rampage to me.

Look, maybe he was mentally ill and snapped, but we still can't have him loose in society, just like we all know Charles Manson was mentally ill, but for the safety of everyone else, these dangerous people must be locked away.