New info on Charlottesville Fields car attack

Here's some video shot on Aug. 12, 2017 after the car attack in Charlottesville byJames Fields. Charlottesville resident Jackson Landers of RE wire news does his first interview at 11:05 with a guy who says that Fields' car was stuck between other cars when people started "tapping on his car, like get out of here". Fields then backed his car in to another before he sped forward hitting people as he went indiscriminately according to this man.

In a later interview at 19:55 a local woman in a green shirt states that "90% of everyone there was from out of town" which Landers agreed with. She also believes the stand down by the police was to force both sides to fight it out. She further goes on to place the blame on Charlottesville's mayor and city council stating that "they should resign".

Not exactly the kind of narrative the media has been feeding us. Just posting this here to show there are always 2 sides to every story and both need to be heard.



For those who think there might be a conspiracy at work you should watch this. Sonofnewo analyzes the Ford Fischer livestream and proves 2 interesting facts: 1) the purple van that was at the intersection of 4th and water streets sat there for 5 minutes and had ample chance to move through the intersection before the mass of protesters arrived. 2) the Gray Challenger Fields was driving goes through the downtown mall on 4th st and then there is 1:15 second delay before the crash. But that would contradict the testimony of Brennan Gilmore, former State Department who was at the corner of the downtown mall and 4th st who said the Challenger drove down the hill and immediately went after the protesters. He also shot a video that received extensive play on the news.

These strange little facts leave one to doubt the official story that is being told us. That and the fact the right wing marchers up on market street were trying to leave and leftists were the ones continually attacking them resulting in the ugly scene in the parking garage. Add in crash of police helicopter that was present at the time of the car attack resulting in the deaths of 2 state police officers.

Lots of Democratic Socialists in that crowd, was this another deep state operation?

Contrary to what Sonofnewo says that there was no place for cars to turn around and leave without backing up 4th street there was. There are 2 parking spaces on one side of 4th and an alleyway that connects through to water st. On the North side of the mall on 4th another alleyway goes behind the parking garage and connects to market st. beside the police headquarters. His last part about the VIN numbers is incorrect.

Wasn't there an antifa professor who boasted about chasing him with an AR-15 ?

For anyone who cares, at the time, within a few days or a week after this incident I stated that I thought that much of the footage that was released was staged, CGI enhanced or even shot on some studio lot with building overlays put in place to make it look like charlottesville. I analyzed the footage for days on end b/c I found so many inconsistencies both in what was in the video and what was missing.

One thing that was odd was that there was no video released where there were 2 perspectives of the same thing being filmed at the same time, lets say at one intersection where there was a lot going on, there were never 2 videos released that showed the exact same time in the same space - especially the "attack/accident" and what led up to it. All the video is from one source from time A to F, then another video from another perspective from time G to M and there is never any overlap of filming from times like time C to H (let's say each letter is 1 minute of time at the same location, so A-Z is 26 mins from 11:00 to 11:26). All the video is single points of view (which is normal) but never multiple single points of view of the same time in the same place, and there are people (many in fact) in the videos shown recording (cell phone & video cameras) in the same time but that video has never been released.

On top of this I looked at shadows (from poles, signs, people, cars, trash cans, bikes, etc) and light sources & reflections on windows, cars, and many other things and there were MANY inconsistencies within the same videos and when comparing them with others that led me to believe that the videos were filmed over a longer period (not just the 5 mins around the "attack") of maybe 4-5 hours probably b/c of re-takes (this is due to the shadow angles and reflections) so this made me think it might have been done on some stage b/c it would be difficult to do in a real town I would think.

I mentioned this in a number of threads when it was a current issue and I'm looking for all my archive footage of the incident. I know the entire thing stunk about the same as the Las Vegas event but it didn't get the same attention to the video analysis as LV did.

I was really young when my Mom said "Don't stand or walk in the middle of the street, dumb-a**.

Strangely enough, when I was a bit older, my Dad said "Son, there are three things you just don't touch if they don't belong to you. Dogs, Wives, and Cars".

When I was older still, personal experience taught me that two other things should be added to the list.

Children, and Guns.

Just don't do it, because if you do, you immediately cross into a**-whupping territory.

It's always a bad idea to open a can of whup-a**, but there seems to be an almost infinite number of folks that seem to want to test that theory.

Sometimes it's just amusing, but sometimes, unfortunately, it can cost you your life.

a reply to: MteWamp

Here's the problem.

Most of these kids have never really had the crap stomped out of them.

I have to personally carry a lot of the blame for this, and I gladly do so.

Gen-Xers, like myself, you understand, were the first generation of kids that didn't practice "Corporal punishment".

(For all the youngsters out there, that means we didn't beat our kids)

See, my generation thought we KNEW better. We thought much more along Pavlovian lines.

(For you youngsters, that means that we used Positive reinforcement, as opposed to Negative reinforcement.)

We used "timeouts" and other useless new-age crap.

We were wrong. I was wrong.

So, please, all you new and soon-to-be parents, please remember, pain is temporary. It's transient.

(for all of you who are under the age of 30, or you are unlucky enough to be cursed with a "Higher education", that means "It doesn't last long")

Therefore, I must apologize on behalf of GenXers all over the world, because the world is broken, and my generation broke it.

In the (unlikely) event that I see that "Saint Peter" dude at the "Pearly Gates", chances are most of my generation is going to get SERIOUSLY reamed.

And we will deserve it, too.

There are so many issues with this event and one of the clearest is to watch the videos and the famous still pic of the guy in mid-air with the red soled Nike's (product placement ad - for the new counter culture movement maybe) he has both his shoes on and is next to the bed of the Tundra, about 2 seconds later he is shown on the opposite side of the truck, sitting on the hood, missing a shoe (and I think holding one) and jumping down off the hood. Looking at the video and time in which this occured, it would be impossible for him to have been sitting on top of the hood (on the passenger side of the hood) as the car backed up.

I think this clearly shows it was originally done as 2 takes and that is why there are 2 different stories about how the "attack" happened.

originally posted by: DigginFoTroof
There are so many issues with this event and one of the clearest is to watch the videos and the famous still pic of the guy in mid-air with the red soled Nike's (product placement ad - for the new counter culture movement maybe) he has both his shoes on and is next to the bed of the Tundra, about 2 seconds later he is shown on the opposite side of the truck, sitting on the hood, missing a shoe (and I think holding one) and jumping down off the hood. Looking at the video and time in which this occured, it would be impossible for him to have been sitting on top of the hood (on the passenger side of the hood) as the car backed up.

I think this clearly shows it was originally done as 2 takes and that is why there are 2 different stories about how the "attack" happened.

I don't think anyone here is surprised.

Some may be, but they've not yet seen this thread.

It'll probably be a monkey-house tomorrow.

Sincerest apologies but I am straying off topic here... :

Sometimes also... certain "Muricans" and whup ass guns n stuff maniacs from the USA don't make easy and intelligent debatable conversation when it comes to this subject and scream the 2nd amendment in your country.

Kindest regards

A hunter from France (EUROPE) with tons of hunting equipment and no need to have an AR to hunt wild boar or big game.

Lags


a reply to: MteWamp

a reply to: MteWamp

Gen-Xers, like myself, you understand, were the first generation of kids that didn't practice "Corporal punishment".

Bs. The gen xers that I know got spanked.

I am a gen xers myself though my case is different. I was beat like a dog during my childhood.

a reply to: Lagomorphe

Rights have nothing to do with need.

There is no difference between an AR and any other semiauto rifle.

With no rights to arms Europe is now seeing their rights to free expression eroded.

a reply to: Lagomorphe
Yet another that thinks AR stands for Assault Rifle
AR is the stock trading symbol for the Armalite corporation
And if you own multiple firearms , one may be an "AR"


Now , my due diligence to the ATS motto has been done already this am

Denying ignorance

I like the thread
Question everything

a reply to: Gothmog

Off topic, but wasn't the AR 17 an aluminium shotgun? Definitely not an "assault rifle".

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: Lagomorphe

Rights have nothing to do with need.

There is no difference between an AR and any other semiauto rifle.

With no rights to arms Europe is now seeing their rights to free expression eroded.

But the common counter argument is that the AR is the best weapon to hunt wild boar.

Why not one of the other guns?

Not arguing, just asking, because one angle says it's better "You'd wish you had your AR with you when a horde of boar are aiming towards you!", but then "The AR is no different than any other semi auto weapon."

?

a reply to: DigginFoTroof

I know people that live in Charlottesville. I know people that knew Heather Heyer. I know people that were mere feet away from being run over.

This event happened and it's absolutely sickening how many people on this site try to defend/justify a Nazi terrorist.

a reply to: MteWamp

It wasn't a street. It was a walking mall that has traffic interest at certain points. Pedestrians have the right of way and all traffic is legally required to yield to pedestrians.

a reply to: Lagomorphe

The AR is not to hunt anything.

Let’s take France. If the Germans want to attack your country and your defenses are a generation out of date. When the Germans march into Paris, you form a puppet government with them and go about your day.

Let’s get Mr Peabody or HG Wells if you prefer and go back In time with a bunch of ARs for the French people and you we will distribute them to the same saturation as they are distributed in america. Do you think the Germans invade? If they do, do the get to Paris?

It’s kind of hard to march in formation when at anytime hundreds of bullets can be headed your way, from anywhere and anyone.

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Lagomorphe
Yet another that thinks AR stands for Assault Rifle
AR is the stock trading symbol for the Armalite corporation
And if you own multiple firearms , one may be an "AR"

Now , my due diligence to the ATS motto has been done already this am

Denying ignorance

Nope, I have 3 shotguns (two double barreled 12 bore), I semi auto 12 bore 3 slug capacity and a 270 Verney Carron semi-auto 3 capacity.

I don't need to look like Rambo and carry around a firearm that looks like something out of an American war film.

One or two shots with a single red pointer and a 12 bore or high power hunting rifle is enough for me.

Then again, we have different ways of hunting over here in Europe...

Warmest regards

Lags

originally posted by: Gothmog
a reply to: Lagomorphe
Yet another that thinks AR stands for Assault Rifle
AR is the stock trading symbol for the Armalite corporation
And if you own multiple firearms , one may be an "AR"

Now , my due diligence to the ATS motto has been done already this am

Denying ignorance

Just out of interest... What is the exact meaning of AR?

originally posted by: SocratesJohnson
a reply to: Lagomorphe

The AR is not to hunt anything.

Let’s take France. If the Germans want to attack your country and your defenses are a generation out of date. When the Germans march into Paris, you form a puppet government with them and go about your day.

Let’s get Mr Peabody or HG Wells if you prefer and go back In time with a bunch of ARs for the French people and you we will distribute them to the same saturation as they are distributed in america. Do you think the Germans invade? If they do, do the get to Paris?

It’s kind of hard to march in formation when at anytime hundreds of bullets can be headed your way, from anywhere and anyone.

This is what I seem to be reading or understanding from the pro AR people here.

Maybe I am wrong?