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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: SeaYote
Bottom line, do you want the country's politics to so devolve that anytime one side wants to get their way and they have no other recourse, they resort to telling you that the person in question is the sort who will rape your daughter?
Remember, the pubic hairs on coke cans?
Yeah, he is sitting on the SCOTUS now too. It's not like this is an old trick. They've played it before and you seem to be an old fiddle. If Kavanaugh was the sort to indulge in this type of contempt of women, do you honestly think 65 of them from his past would have been so quick to come forward openly, not anonymously to defend him?
originally posted by: Kharron
originally posted by: Vasa Croe
originally posted by: Kharron
We now know the woman whom Kavanaugh allegedly molested during high school as Christine Blasey Ford, a clinical psychology professor at Palo Alto University in California, and two years younger than Kavanaugh. This happened many, many years ago but actions from someone's past must be considered, especially when that person could land a vital position, with no term limit.
Ford said that Kavanaugh pinned her to the bed, molested her and covered her mouth when she tried to scream. It was another boy, who was in the room, that broke them up. She did not speak about this to anyone until 2012, when she and her husband saw a therapist for couples counseling. Her husband also recalls the issue coming up in therapy and AP has verified the therapist notes from the sessions as well.
Ford’s husband, Russell Ford, also told the newspaper that his wife described during therapy being trapped in a room with two drunken boys and that one of them had pinned her to a bed, molested her and tried to prevent from screaming. He said he recalled his wife using Kavanaugh’s last name and expressing concern that Kavanaugh — then a federal judge — might someday be nominated to the Supreme Court.
The therapist’s notes say four boys were involved, but Ford says that was an error by the therapist. Ford says four boys were at the party, but only two boys were in the room at the time.
Ford had contacted the Post through a tip line in early July after it had become clear that Kavanaugh was on Trump’s shortlist to fill a vacancy but before the Republican president nominated him, the newspaper said.
At the same time, and before Kavanaugh's nomination, she contacted her representative in Congress, Ann Eshoo, who in turn contacted Feinstein. Kavanaugh has denied these allegations and 65 women have written a letter that he has always been respectful to them.
Considering that multiple people have had conversations about this incident, years prior to the nomination, it lends credence to the story that the professor is telling the truth. And yes, people can rehabilitate and change, and Kavanaugh may be a better man today, but my experience tells me those who wish to hide things, instead of being honest and dealing with the fallout, tend to have not changed that much.
Both Eshoo and Feinstein said Sunday that they supported Ford’s decision to come forward.
Ford told the Post she changed her mind about coming forward after watching portions of her story come out without her permission. She said if anyone was going to tell her story, she wanted to be the one to tell it.
Associated Press
Another one for the #metoo movement. Tell me folks, should an incident that happened decades ago be taken into account when considering a Supreme Court judge?
Personally, this man creeps me out. Not because he makes weird faces like Strzok did during his hearing, but because he does not react at all. He's like a photograph of a man. Always poker faced, and perfectly groomed for years with perfect positions, and then with a shady background and volumes of missing pages.
I'll leave you with a thought a friend of mine told me yesterday -- the first question to ask Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings:
"Would you, as a judge, rule on a case if you knew it had 90,000 documents missing?"
What's sad is something that may or may not have occurred decades ago is in the news and current Catholic priests molesting hundreds, maybe thousands, is not even a blip on your radar.
How do you know it's not on my radar? I'm looking forward to seeing what comes out of the unprecedented summit the Pope called in February.
What I'm concerned about is the immediacy of this issue, with a confirmation pending. What concerns me is not only this sexual allegation but also the thousands of pages from the Bush era. I understand that some things are classified, but Senators have those clearances. And documents can be redacted. And summaries of decisions are included -- I just wish we could see what judges voted and wrote such things as the Patriot Act. Did he have anything to do with this NWO tool, and if he thinks surveillance of Americans is ok.
If he did then I don't want this NWO a-hole anywhere near our Supreme Court.
Am I right? Do you?
I don't care who nominated him, if it's Trump, or Obama or JFK resurrected -- I don't care. I want to know his involvement with those important NWO acts passed under Bush and I want to know where this sexual allegation will go. Until that is known, I cannot support this guy.
originally posted by: Guyfriday
This seems to be the basic jest of what's going on, now the area I'm having issues with is the facts that are being presented. We don't know if she was drinking at this party or not. This would be important since is would show that she may have been confused about the facts
originally posted by: Tempter
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originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
originally posted by: theatreboy
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Lumenari
How would you feel if you were molested years ago and not believed when you finally decided to come forward about it ?
How would you feel if you did nothing and were accused of molestation?
What's your point, should we dismiss all allegations of sexual assault on women ?
originally posted by: Kharron
a reply to: Lumenari
Your apathy regarding having people of morals in critical positions is astounding.
Leave partisanship behind for one moment in your life, and look at this for what it is. A man is very likely capable of inflicting harm on another person. Tens of thousands of pages about his past and his decisions are missing.
Why do we have to be brainwashed by partisanship that he is a good person and will judge with compassion, if we are not allowed to know about his past? Who would buy this crap unless they had to support him... because politics.
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
a reply to: Lumenari
How would you feel if you were molested years ago and not believed when you finally decided to come forward about it ?
originally posted by: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: hopenotfeariswhatweneed
" How would you feel if you were molested years ago and not believed when you finally decided to come forward about it ?
I Dunno , but Why would I Wait So Many Years to Tell Anyone about it ? Maybe Because I Do Not Believe it Myself ? ...Hmm....
Well there's no easy solution here as people do lie about these things,in saying that these things also do happen , if an accusation is laid it should be investigated without bias.
originally posted by: Tempter
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originally posted by: Boadicea
originally posted by: Tempter
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Very interesting.... Apparently -- according to one of the comments -- her brother worked for Fusion GPS' law firm. And now works for Allied Capital. I feel like there's more to Allied Capital than I'm remembering right now... Not a good feeling either. Maybe someone can refresh/correct my memory.
Allied Capital gained notoriety when hedge fund manager David Einhorn gave a now-famous speech at the Sohn Investment Conference in 2002. He spoke of various accounting irregularities, and he left the audience with a warning to remember forever: "People who are willing to lie about small things have no problem lying about big things." (Grainy videos of his speech appear on YouTube.) Allied Capital was a business development company with a long history of producing incredible returns for its investors. Founded in 1958 and publicly listed in 1960, it had an enviable record of paying ever-increasing dividends from its core business of making mezzanine (junk) loans to small businesses. These loans often included equity kickers in the form of stock or stock warrants, creating occasional big wins when the companies it financed grew into big successes.