Oliver the Human-Chimp Hybrid / Humanzee

a reply to: peacefulpete

Was Oliver responsible for AIDS ????

originally posted by: peter vlar

originally posted by: peacefulpete
a reply to: LABTECH767

I don't believe there's any reason to think that humans and chimps would be physically incompatible, at least, for our "private parts."

I'd expect those "parts" to be very similar.

(I've often heard that, contrary to our expectations, human males have the biggest ****, out of all the primates lol.)

There’s a huge difference in being physically able to engage in the act and genetically being able to produce viable embryos. This hasn’t actually been tested and human sperm can not penetrate the eggs of any of the other Apes with the exception of the Gibbon and those tests only showed that human sperm could penetrate the egg, not that there was an ability to reproduce with them. Our sperm can’t even penetrate the egg of a chimpanzee so no, there is no possibility of succesfulmadmixture between humans and chimpanzees.

So going on that premise, I don't find it hard to believe at all, that some guy in central Africa could have had a small chimp pet, and maybe he got drunk, and no one was around, and maybe he restrained the small chimp in a certain way, and...

Oliver was born lol.

You have a very vivid imagination but not much understanding of biology and genetics.

Humans and chimps are actually closer genetically than the known examples of interspecies mating: Horses and donkeys produce a mule. Lions and tigers produce a liger.

It's much LESS of a leap for a human and chimp to produce a hybrid. Right?

a reply to: InhaleExhale

Judging from your record in past threads,

and judging from your post in this thread, including using the wrong word in your very first sentence ("incompatible" that you somehow morphed into "incomparable"),

and linking to a speculative post in a speculative website (quora.com) as if it was more than what it is,

and saying that it's somehow not based in reality to acknowledge how similar humans and chimps are, and that it somehow means I didn't "bother to look it up" after I just spent a few days researching the whole topic,

and starting a tangent about the word "normal" after I was obviously responding to someone saying that Oliver's traits were in the normal range (which they're obviously not):

I don't plan on responding to your posts in this thread.

Peace out, go InhaleExhale something fun.

a reply to: grey580

You keep posting references to his DNA testing which was woefully far less than conclusive.

I really wish his body was preserved for science after his death.

The cremation was well-intentioned but very misguided, IMO.

Here's a fairly recent article on the subject of human / chimp interbreeding experiments:
mysteriousuniverse.org...

It really shouldn't be difficult to inseminate a female chimp with human sperm to test whether this is possible. They probably could test it in the lab.

Here's a documentary somebody made on the subject:

originally posted by: toms54
It really shouldn't be difficult to inseminate a female chimp with human sperm to test whether this is possible. They probably could test it in the lab.

I assume that this has probably been tested and proven for decades already, but without ever being made public, for the social / moralistic outcry that would be expected.

In researching this topic, I read a very disturbing article on animal-research, how unnecessary it is, and how blatantly cruel and torturous it is. Monkeys are kept for decades just to keep torturing them, such as spraying poison in their eyes, just to watch them suffer and go blind. (As if we really don't know what chemicals are harmful to our eyes or not, without torturing and blinding animals.)

NASA apparently had a secretive animal research program through the 90's that included loading chimps onto actual spacecraft, restraining them with straight-jackets, mutilating them with WIRES forced through their bodies (for information feedback apparently), then sending them into space, in capsules that would return in a week or two. Basically the most unnecessary and barbaric way to test the effects of space travel, which shouldn't be necessary AT ALL, since humans have been spending prolonged periods in space for decades!

So I'm sorry to get so depressing in this post lol but with all that terrible context of torturing animals just to torture them: It would actually be much LESS sadistic for scientists to try a few experiments of artificial insemination / interspecies breeding.

So yeah I assume there are probably dozens of chimp-human hybrids suffering in cages, in government secret research labs, which are known to exist, but without knowing exactly what they're doing inside.

Animal-research is the kind of thing that convinces me that there's something really wrong / evil in human beings.

double-post

originally posted by: Blue Shift
Here's a documentary somebody made on the subject:

Haha looks like a very fun "documentary."

I really love older movies that had nothing but plastic masks and other practical effects.

So much more interesting than walking into a movie today and watching computer animations exploding all over the screen.

originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: peacefulpete

There's another famous one, too.

Just do a google image search for go rilla tennis player.

?

Is this a racist joke about certain athletes? Or am I just not finding the right results from Google?

a reply to: peacefulpete

I worked in labs doing animal research for a few years. Some of it might be justified but quite a bit of if bothered me.

a reply to: toms54

check this link www.quora.com...

very highly unlikely....we have 46 chromosomes chips have 48.....we diverged too long ago making us genetically similar but not enough...human sperm cannot penetrate the chimp egg...if doing a process in the lab most likely the embryo would not be viable........embriotic developement is a delicate process....

you would have to beat incredible odds to get a hybrid

originally posted by: research100
a reply to: toms54

check this link www.quora.com...

very highly unlikely....we have 46 chromosomes chips have 48.....we diverged too long ago making us genetically similar but not enough...human sperm cannot penetrate the chimp egg...if doing a process in the lab most likely the embryo would not be viable........embriotic developement is a delicate process....

you would have to beat incredible odds to get a hybrid

I had trouble finding exact figures but I believe humans are more similar to chimps... than the known species that DO mate, i.e. horses and donkeys creating a mule, etc.

originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: peacefulpete

I worked in labs doing animal research for a few years. Some of it might be justified but quite a bit of if bothered me.

Well good thing that you got out of it.

I'm sure you did not actually WANT to hurt animals, and I'd guess you were just in need of money.

All of us can be the victims of cruel circumstances sometimes.

originally posted by: peacefulpete

originally posted by: toms54
a reply to: peacefulpete

I worked in labs doing animal research for a few years. Some of it might be justified but quite a bit of if bothered me.

Well good thing that you got out of it.

I'm sure you did not actually WANT to hurt animals, and I'd guess you were just in need of money.

All of us can be the victims of cruel circumstances sometimes.

I worked with rats and mice for work study but when that was over, I needed full time work.

I had a choice of 2 jobs. One was a technician in a study of head trauma in cats. The model was supposed to simulate a human head hitting the dashboard. Very disturbing. The other was a tech in the anatomy dept preparing corpses for dissection. I ended up taking an outside job.

a reply to: peacefulpete


looks like a chimp with mange on its face

originally posted by: peacefulpete

originally posted by: peter vlar

originally posted by: peacefulpete
a reply to: LABTECH767

I don't believe there's any reason to think that humans and chimps would be physically incompatible, at least, for our "private parts."

I'd expect those "parts" to be very similar.

(I've often heard that, contrary to our expectations, human males have the biggest ****, out of all the primates lol.)

There’s a huge difference in being physically able to engage in the act and genetically being able to produce viable embryos. This hasn’t actually been tested and human sperm can not penetrate the eggs of any of the other Apes with the exception of the Gibbon and those tests only showed that human sperm could penetrate the egg, not that there was an ability to reproduce with them. Our sperm can’t even penetrate the egg of a chimpanzee so no, there is no possibility of succesfulmadmixture between humans and chimpanzees.

So going on that premise, I don't find it hard to believe at all, that some guy in central Africa could have had a small chimp pet, and maybe he got drunk, and no one was around, and maybe he restrained the small chimp in a certain way, and...

Oliver was born lol.

You have a very vivid imagination but not much understanding of biology and genetics.

Humans and chimps are actually closer genetically than the known examples of interspecies mating: Horses and donkeys produce a mule. Lions and tigers produce a liger.

It's much LESS of a leap for a human and chimp to produce a hybrid. Right?

As Inexplained in my previous reply, it has been tested. Human sperm can not penetrate the egg if a chimpanzee. This means no possibility of an embryo and without an embryo you don’t have offspring. Admixture betweeen humans and chimps is not possible. If it were the Russians would have been successful in their experiments 60 odd years ago in the late 1950’s.

a reply to: peter vlar

Ok, but um... what about chimp sperm penetrating a human egg? Or um, artificial insemination.