National Solar Observatory, USPS office in Sunspot, NM evacuated for 'safety reasons'

a reply to: itswhatev

I feel like a broken record myself, and it's a bit exhausting really. More headache inducing than anything.

I've been burned before and I'm not sure exactly how to approach this, although not with both feet at once is a good start.

I'm trying hard not to steer things in one particular direction or sound like I'm predicting the end of the world or something. All of this is highly coincidental.

There are a lot of people lurking on ATS these days regarding this topic, and it's up to us to lead by example, and not get ahead of ourselves. You wouldn't believe the references to ATS out there, it seems as though we have a good thing going here.

a reply to: itswhatev

Well for starters the one cam in Hawaii, the Canada-France-Hawaii telescope only has the east pointing view blocked out. As for the others mentioned many of them are near or below the hemisphere, for starters.

Astronomically what would be occurring in that area ?

a reply to: threeeyesopen

Mj to answer your question, I'm a shadow, pay no mind to the one behind the curtain...you may be sadly disappointed.

originally posted by: threeeyesopen
a reply to: SeaWorthy

So 7 hours are missing, perhaps the video was altered and uploaded in an altered format which would easily explain the time skip.

Anyone who has ever recorded video on a surveillance camera and burned a copy could tell you that's very likely the case here. You can easily edit the video but no so easily edit the time stamp without the right program. apparently that wasn't much of a concern though because it's pretty obvious. Otherwise maybe the camera recording feed was shut off for that period of time.

Just to clarify, you can make a video and include different parts as evidence, however the timeline will always have to match in synchronicity to build a proper case of when/where etc. Theres some evidence missing here. That's likely what explains the who/why/what...

This is not a surveillance camera? No I checked the feed from the links on another site the time is missing so they were off line.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

They record time similarly in a live feed is what I was alluding too..I've been back and forth all day, these damn conspiracies are too much fun really.

Oh hey btw if you like my work, I could use a job that pays some good money. Something interesting though would be nice. I am a smoker, I know how much that can affect my job prospects.

I figure I've gotten some exposure here apparently, why not make it work for me lol..keep a sense of humor and have a good one folks. Tomorrow hopefully will bring some new discoveries.

originally posted by: SeaWorthy
a reply to: 321cya

Can you tell me what you think of what this guy is saying?

SECCHI stands for Sun Earth Coronal Connection and Heliospheric Investigation. (I had to look that up, not THAT big of a nerd ;-)) It's a package of sensors and tools on the stereo satellites. I'm honestly not sure how often they skip frames like that but I have seen lots of corrupted images from them and the other instruments.
The ahead was still operational during those hours though.

You can go here
stereo-ssc.nascom.nasa.gov...
and use the drop down menu on the left to pick any or all of the telescopes aboard the pair of satellites, pick a day or time period, resolution, and under the date pick 1 where it offers you 1-10, 1 gives you the greatest detail.
I just went and picked all the ahead telescopes (behind has been out of service for years) and looked at Sept 7th, and there are images from 12:30 AM all the way to 11:55 pm from some of the telescopes but there are missing images from a few for the morning.

As for the giant object, I think he said he saw it last year, but I honestly don't know what he was seeing there. But that particular camera is a very wide angle shot, not just the sun in it's field of view. .... Yep, I put 20170907 in the date box and chose the HI2 ahead and see the same thing he did. Not sure what it was, but if it was a physical object it would've been nearly large enough to fill the space between the sun and the earth!

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: threeeyesopen
a reply to: threeeyesopen

Just finished speaking to another person who is close to the area and they said people there are less speculative that its ET related. They said that the local population are assuming it's some kind of manhunt for a fugitive or some kind of leak in the holding tank for the mercury..possibly someone even trying to steal the mercury ?

In any case people near the area seem to be keeping a grounded approach to the whole thing, which also means nothing spectacular has happened otherwise to make them feel any different. At least not for this person I'm regards to the local rumours going around.

Stealing the mercury

I can't imagine how unless they killed everyone up there first. They would have to have a really nice big tanker.

Not for 10tons take it from someone who’s transported bulk mercury. Not that I think it’s mercury related....

originally posted by: steaming
a reply to: SeaWorthy
Perhaps the following explain part of the argument;

[PDF]Environmental Impact Statement for the Sacramento Peak Observatory ...



www.nsf.gov...

PDF , found several 2017 PDF , Gov't articles ref the Sunspot Observatory. One of the articles is full of photos plus Maps etc. Contains info in reference to The areas future - Mothballing and Partial Destruction, / Demolition etc.

You left out the “do nothing” option with no projected impact still doesn’t explain the feds....

How does one post video or photo on here?

originally posted by: AlphaDalpha
How does one post video or photo on here?

Photos:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
Videos: Best just to upload to YouTube or the likes and drop the link in here.

Welcome to ATS!

Here's what I think happened. Foreign actors (russia or china) planted spy equipment on some of the observatories antennas and surrounding buildings, most likely trying to get access to white sands or holloman. Might of even had a university employee or someone doing nefarious stuff while employed. The PO is closed because it's in the immediate area and basically apart of the facilities. I'm not really worried about them seizing it to look at the equipment because they saw something ET. The government has better tech on base and in secure facilities, plus there's just too many other telescopes looking in the same spot and people would talk if they saw something. There's no need for local LEO to know anything about Chinese spies planting secret espionage tech, and maybe they aren't sure exactly what it is or how it happened, that's why they are still hush hush.

a reply to: itswhatev

Other than the ET angle

It's starting to look like an ET angle. Whether it's a ship or something else is the kicker, though. Your sig line is "When you eliminate the impossible whatever left however improbable must be the truth." The list of the impossible seems to be getting checked off awful fast, and the improbable is gaining ground.

originally posted by: wylekat
a reply to: itswhatev

Other than the ET angle

It's starting to look like an ET angle Whether it's a ship or something else is the kicker, though. Your sig line is "When you eliminate the impossible whatever left however improbable must be the truth." The list of the impossible seems to be getting checked off awful fast, and the improbable is gaining ground.

I’m not ready to make that leap quite yet don’t get me wrong it’d be very awesome if that was the case but I still am getting a strange vibe from this whole fiasco....

a reply to: 898929


I’ve been thinking on the hacking angle and something along these lines since last night. And I would agree with your assessment of the Post Office. The foreign state actor angle also gives a reason for things to be done quietly. My problem with this is that the evacuation doesn’t make sense. I would think that people nearby would be useful for questioning, witnesses, and/or possible suspects as willing or unwitting accomplices.

a reply to: BigDave-AR

I still am getting a strange vibe from this whole fiasco....

I am as well. With the various webcams not being online, my spidey sense is going off the scale.

I'm also nervous about that stupid hurricane headed this way, too- so that is a factor that isn't helping things one bit.

originally posted by: Fiscal
a reply to: 898929


I’ve been thinking on the hacking angle and something along these lines since last night. And I would agree with your assessment of the Post Office. The foreign state actor angle also gives a reason for things to be done quietly. My problem with this is that the evacuation doesn’t make sense. I would think that people nearby would be useful for questioning, witnesses, and/or possible suspects as willing or unwitting accomplices.

I also question whether any espionage would involve physical hardware on the antenna poles requiring them to make a seemingly emergency work on said poles. Just a bizarre case all around....

originally posted by: wylekat
a reply to: BigDave-AR

I still am getting a strange vibe from this whole fiasco....

I am as well. With the various webcams not being online, my spidey sense is going off the scale.

I'm also nervous about that stupid hurricane headed this way, too- so that is a factor that isn't helping things one bit.

Give me a hurricane over a solar kill shot any day.....

a reply to: BigDave-AR

As someone with a background in communications and some minor experience with RF engineering (with encrypted systems), piggybacking the equipment physically or in near proximity would be the way to go. Signal interception on that type of hardware can be exceptionally difficult depending on how they have it setup.

originally posted by: Fiscal
a reply to: BigDave-AR

As someone with a background in communications and some minor experience with RF engineering (with encrypted systems), piggybacking the equipment physically or in near proximity would be the way to go. Signal interception on that type of hardware can be exceptionally difficult depending on how they have it setup.

I see the network on site being the weak link not hardware up on the pole but it’s in no way my area of expertise so I could be talking out of my rear. I just think the hardware approach would be a little more risky than might be acceptable and why the solar observatory and also you’d think if it was espionage they’d roll it up slow and much quieter instead of all the theatrics. This one just doesn’t smell right whatever angle I look at it from.

ETA-1,000th post and it only took me over 9 years! Maybe if I didn’t disappear for years at a time I’d be above 10k lol

I have been stonewalled non stop trying to get media (large and small). I knew it was gonna happen to but they read and ignored everything. I have every bit of information and tons of screenshots from day one.

I’ve read online we’re getting another storm today as well. But the fact that all the observatories are out of service and they say they’ll be down for a few weeks potentially makes me think they’re waiting on something to happen.

It’s scaring me. There was suppose to be a press conference. It seems from that video the guy got that they are gone. If anyone has it somehow please send it, it would be a great piece to have. I got dark web looking into it, I still have hope for that.

PS- regarding the antennas my step dad was military and was down there fairly often in NM. He said that it sounds like those are signal blockers which would make complete sense. Of course that’s just a theory. If anyone’s got some new magic info that would be great lol....