National Solar Observatory, USPS office in Sunspot, NM evacuated for 'safety reasons'

a reply to: steaming

If that's the case then let's brace ourselves for what may come next. If indeed this has anything to do with a false flag. Although I'm not exactly sold on that idea, I do like the thinking outside the box.

I think I need to kind of compile what has been found so far, not that it makes much sense but I'll try and look at it from outside the box like you.

originally posted by: threeeyesopen
a reply to: charlyv

From the sounds of it, no one did freak out so much as the FBI showed up and kicked everyone out without telling them why.

That is just it. If it was a scientific thing, they certainly would not call the FBI first. They would go to their respective bosses.

So with the development of the imgur vid, I've been thinking,

We now know the place is vacant. The fbi left, but there has been no statement made, so the investigation continues.

The fbi didn't warn the employees ahead of time that they were getting booted out. They came in by cars, and a helo, and told every body to get their crap and be out in 15 min.

There was something there that they were after, and wanted the staff uninformed, and out of the way asap.

Something included the towers, but apparently not a massive search of the grounds, since the sheriff and his people saw nothing going on, except tower workers, got bored and left.

The on site investigation is as of today, or even earlier, no way to tell. Over.

So, maybe they came in, got something off, or installed something on the towers, and/or grabbed the hard drives out of the computers to continue the investigation back in the fbi labs.

They seemed to have no interest in the people working there. I've been reading things posted on Facebook posted by several evaced staff, and they all say that everyone was simply told to leave. Not questioned. Not detained. Just evicted.

So either the earlier poster saying the gov is so idiotic as to close down a science facility with a super secret Blackhawk inserted fbi team, or they came to get something. And they got it.

a reply to: threeeyesopen
I fully agree and in no way try to disagree with anything said so far, I even tried typing ;

2016 Sacramento Observatory to be shut down

That brought up several pages - from groups of Astronomers , who stated How it would break their hearts if such did close..................Nevertheless, the whole ruddy thing is a growing Mystery, oh and one PDF report did state Helicopter Sites to be built in the Forest area.............. Wish you luck with your searching, will go back to being a mere ATS reader.. Bye for now.

originally posted by: wylekat
a reply to: 321cya

*scratches head* I thought the sun observer sats were locked in an orbit? Kind of geosynchronous, but facing the sun- and far enough away that interference from the moon wasn't supposed to happen, either.

Is everything I've read just wrong...

No, you're absolutrly correct about the stereo A and B solar satellites. They are in orbit Ahead and Behind the earth and would never see the moon like that. Sometimes mercury and Venus can be seen in their images but they move much slower and are much smaller than the moon in front of SDO.
The video in question is from the SDO, it's in geosynchronous orbit above (oddly enough) White sands NM. The occultation happens every year and they've got it predicted to the minute for the next 20 years or something like that.
There's quite a few satellites out there observing the sun. SOHO and SECHI are a couple more off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more, especially belonging to other nations.

Here's a link to the SDO overview page:
www.nasa.gov...


I'm a total space nerd, probably came from spending my summers here as a kid. Watched the shuttle get ferried out of White sands on the back of a 747 in the 80s, space museum here in Alamogordo, awesome meteor showers in the dark NM skies, and all the alien stories from Roswell and dulce. I've been to sunspot and Apache point several times over the years. I can see the white domes on the ridge almost everyday depending on where I happen to be working. And I'm damn sure going up on that ridge this weekend!

a reply to: steaming

Thank you for your information, every bit helps. I hope we hear from you some more, sounds like you've got some interesting things to say.

Also does anyone else find it odd that the spaceweather.eu website is down ? Theres a message forwarding peoples questions to the royal observatory of Belgium..I just dont know what to make of this.

Its almost simultaneous, in terms of reports about webcams being down and other spaceweather monitoring sites showing incorrect data or none at all..the timing is enough as to not cause much of a splash, it can all be written off as something else without much thought. Very well done if not the product of over thinking on my part.


Just posted on reddit, a list of webcams that are down simultaneously.

AXIS 232D Network Dome Camera located in Sydney Australia
Webcams located at SOAR Observatory – The Southern Astrophysical Research Telescope located in Chile
BRT Tenerife Telescope Webcam located in Spain
Webcam located at Mauna Kea observatory at the University of Hawaii Hilo
Webcam from the Canada-France-Hawaii Telescope observatory in Hawaii
Webcam at JAT OBservatory in Fairless Hills, Pennsylvania

Some things I've found out. Just for informational purposes.

The mercury content is 120 gallons. Which equals about 6.75 ton. It's contained in a sealed fluid bearing which supports the body of the telescope.
This bearing is 135 feet in the air. It's like a huge plum Bob.

The site is currently still owned by the national science foundation.

Aura, runs the national solar oberservatory program. This was ended at sunspot in October of 2017. They are building a larger telescope in Hawaii set to open in 2019. They are still involved in the sunspot observatory,

But, sunspot is currently staffed entirely by new Mexico state university employees.

I'm looking into the funding situation, it's kinda vague right now, the NSF, is the primary funder, but then there is the sunspot consortium, and NMSU itself involved.

From what I can tell, there was every intention in keeping this scope operational. In a reduced capacity, it has operational abilities that will compliment the new Hawaii scope, and at thins time, it's still one of the best solar scopes in the world.

I very much doubt it's just going to be moth balled.

a reply to: caterpillage

Wouldnt it be crazy if it wasnt really the FBI?

a reply to: threeeyesopen

Well now the list of web cams going off Line is a bit disturbing.

a reply to: toysforadults

That would make for a great story, and at this point a total possibility. Could explain the uninterest in questioning/detaining the staff.

So, who you thinking of?

a reply to: threeeyesopen

I just checked all of them out (webcams) and aside from one that needed a username and password for access, they are all down for sure.

I guess let's keep our eyes to the sky, never know..

a reply to: 321cya

Can you tell me what you think of what this guy is saying?

a reply to: SeaWorthy

So 7 hours are missing, perhaps the video was altered and uploaded in an altered format which would easily explain the time skip.

Anyone who has ever recorded video on a surveillance camera and burned a copy could tell you that's very likely the case here. You can easily edit the video but no so easily edit the time stamp without the right program. apparently that wasn't much of a concern though because it's pretty obvious. Otherwise maybe the camera recording feed was shut off for that period of time.

Just to clarify, you can make a video and include different parts as evidence, however the timeline will always have to match in synchronicity to build a proper case of when/where etc. Theres some evidence missing here. That's likely what explains the who/why/what...

originally posted by: threeeyesopen
a reply to: steaming

Why all the secrecy though? Why not just say hey we're gonna demo this place, you employees now are working here. Instead the employees by the sound of it were not even allowed to take their work before being kicked out.

I'm leaning toward just a shutdown done in a very dramatic way. I can think of two reasons for it:

1. Doing it this way, they by default silence any immediate resistance and noise from any groups, organizations, individuals, communities, etc. about the decision to just shut it down. The place is obviously loved by a lot of people and they'd have to put up with lots of folks fussing and complaining. This way, nobody says anything.

2. It conditions people down the road when something like this happens again (for perhaps more sinister reasons) to just shut up and accept it.

Two places two events and this is the third?

Statement: July 20 NSF headquarters evacuation

July 20, 2018 On July 20, a suspicious package incident resulted in the evacuation of National Science Foundation (NSF) headquarters in Alexandria, Virginia. At 10:37 a.m., federal and local emergency responders cleared the incident and NSF headquarters resumed business as normal. NSF extends its thanks to the Alexandria Police Department, the Alexandria Fire Department and the Federal Protective Service for their quick and efficient response, and for ensuring the safety of the agency’s workforce. -NSF-

nsf.gov...

So this person is reporting another incident like the one above:

On 7/14/18 my family arrived at the Griffith observatory mid day and had just walked into the cafeteria to get something to drink before exploring, while waiting in line I noticed two officers in the corner of the room questioning a man who appeared to be homeless, a few moments later they hand cuff him and escort him out of building, after a few moments passed we were told to finish our purchases and proceed to evacuate the grounds. A minute or two pass and they tell us to evacuate immediately. They made everyone evacuate to the parking lots at the bottom of mountain. Nothing was ever said why at the moment and the man I saw was very confused as to why he was being cuffed and taken into custody, he seemed to have some mental issues after overhearing some of the conversation between him and the officers.
I have first-hand experience with the homeless on the streets and this man fit the profile to the T. He did not appear to be anyone capable of having the means to carry out what the MSM was beginning to report in only an hour or so after what I witnessed. I walked away that day feeling something just didn't add up and felt an underlying feeling that things were not as they were being publicly presented.... One detail I left out is that the observatory had been closed for quite awhile prior to this day due to a wildfire and had just reopened to the public so it was extremely crowded........things just don't add up!

This report of the solar observatory brought my experience rushing back and now can't stop myself from thinking the two events may be connected in some manner. abc7.com... The Griffith Observatory was evacuated on Saturday afternoon as a police bomb squad investigated a report of a suspicious package, ... LOS ANGELES (KABC) --

a reply to: incoserv

It seems to have done the opposite though of silencing people, people want answers.

a reply to: steaming

The only reason I dont really buy this is because the observatory itself issues a statement saying it was closed due to a "security threat", and I believe that was the reason the sheriff was initially contacted aswell

Do I believe our current government could fumble this hard on simoly closing, based on what ive seen lately absolutely. But there would be absolutely no reason for anything resembling "security threat" to be issues as a statement because of it. If this has been in the works for so long, then the employees would certainly hsve atleast been aware of it or expecting it in some capacity. Also, since there is growing interest in what exactly IS going on, issuing a statment saying "this is preplanned and nothing unusual" would be fairly easy.


I feel like i just keep repeating myself with my opinion that there's no logical way this is simply a "decomission" though, and not really contributing to the thread when I do it lol at this point any new information at all would make me ecstatic. Hopefully interest doesnt die down from lack of new info and this becomes just another ATS mystery mever definitively solved

a reply to: SeaWorthy

List of suspects, The usual ones ? I'm not exactly sure who would send a suspicious package there..someone with too much time on their hands I suppose and a few screws loose.

a reply to: itswhatev

Theres been a bit of new info, like the webcams being down in a few places around the world.

a reply to: threeeyesopen

This is true, and unsettling but until a link is made it's still just speculation like the rest of this thread. It does seem awfully coincidental, and I'm not one to normally believe in coincidence. What cluld it possibly be though that is being kept from the public eye? A solar flare or emission would have already reached earth by now, and if it had been worrying enough to censor we would all already know it right? Other than the ET angle, what else could possibly link the webcams being down to this specific event