National Solar Observatory, USPS office in Sunspot, NM evacuated for 'safety reasons'

originally posted by: Argen
"There were work crews on towers and people around antennas". Doesn't say they were removing anything. Most likely they left stuff behind so they can continue their "investigation" off site.

That got me to thinking, about how many amateur radio operators there were in Sunspot 88349. None listed.
Then I looked at Cloudcroft 88317, population listed between 670 (2014) and 917 (2018)?? There are 46 licensed hams in Cloudcroft. Thats pretty good for the population there. I wish we had that much interest here in SC!

But, there could be a mundane explanation for that, too. Preppers, Certain religious groups that are expecting the "end" soon, or retired military that were into communications during their stints.

Interesting, I think...

a reply to: wylekat

I'm just saying they have the facilities equipped with the possibility of a plane getting in. I doubt they were dragging sesitive equipment through the woods. The hawk was full of important people, probably a specialized team that were required to do the extraction or seal the documents. I'm sure they could handle a half mile hike from a drop off zone if they had too. They wouldnt need to because our pilots can land the thing anywhere they please. The observatory and surrounding area is pretty damn big.

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The only question now is the fisherman just chumming with truth or taking the piss.

originally posted by: 898929
a reply to: wylekat

I'm just saying they have the facilities equipped with the possibility of a plane getting in. I doubt they were dragging sesitive equipment through the woods. The hawk was full of important people, probably a specialized team that were required to do the extraction or seal the documents. I'm sure they could handle a half mile hike from a drop off zone if they had too. They wouldnt need to because our pilots can land the thing anywhere they please. The observatory and surrounding area is pretty damn big.

I'm also working off the quote of 'helipads'- which to me are large squares or circles of concrete or asphalt, with a circle and an H in the middle. Proper helipads. I know a heli can land in a lot of places, but the way the quote from this guy read, there are actual, proper helipads around there. If you have people wandering randomly around, being it's a park setting and all, actual, real helipads would be an essential.

originally posted by: howtonhawky
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EH? Did I miss something?

originally posted by: wylekat

originally posted by: SeaWorthy

originally posted by: Tanga36
a reply to: wylekat

No, I don't think you're going blind because I really didn't see anything, let alone several, helipads in the vicinity. But I also thought that it may just be a flat spot carved out in the dirt somewhere and it would blend in better than a concrete or asphalt pad

Its the red and blue areas, better picture somewhere in the thread.

Those are sportsball courts- and it's surrounded by a fence. I would not want to try landing a nice, large heli on something like that. not to mention- trying to struggle equipment, armed military people, etc thru a chain link fence gate? You'd think they would want something a little closer to the equipment and stuff anyway.

There was a label as landing areas on some map I remember on here.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: Tanga36

Two really big clues.

The dude not being able to go back in his home, screams they want to keep him from the home for a reason,
the equipment taken from the towers

? The military have kept something at the observatory over the years. The observatory is moving most of its operation. The military needs to remove something dangerous from the area they have left all these years. They don't want the stuff/object to be seen and it is dangerous or has dangerous components they remove the people they bring a truck and load at night and haul something out

a reply to: wylekat

PDFwww.nsf.gov...

The ROI for cultural resources is also referred to as the APE. The APE for the Alternatives is defined as Sacramento Peak Observatory’s overall property limits, which includes the main Observatory area; the Sewage Treatment Plant and associated water wells, as well as the section of Sunspot Highway that connects this area to the main Observatory; and the remains of the helicopter landing area northwest of the Observatory.

The Observatory’s overall property limits are defined in the land use agreement executed between NSF and USFS in 1980 as the Compound Area. SHPO proposed that the Compound Area (overall property limits) should be used as the APE on March 1, 2017, and May 18, 2017, and NSF agreed. The APE encompasses all buildings and structures associated with the Sacramento Peak

So old and not used anymore I think. It would be pointless without a road but maybe the road is overgrown with trees now.
www.members.tripod.com...

The Sunspot “Heliport”, as depicted on the 1979 USGS topo map

A 2014 photo by James Carfagno of the windsock & runway of the Sunspot Heliport. James reported, “The only concrete evidence of the site’s aviation past is a faded wind sock, although there are also some piles of asphalt left over. The windsock doesn’t look that old, so I doubt it’s a leftover from the Air Force days.”

A 2013 aerial view looking southwest shows the Sunspot Heliport remains clear.

a reply to: SeaWorthy

Nice

a reply to: SeaWorthy

You're pointing in the right direction, but no.

I missed this news clip from Monday.
www.kvia.com...

It features an interview with Sheriff Benny House and his now infamous quote about chicken waste. It also reports on an employee who said, "we were told to say we were happy to be back".

Here's an excerpt from Linda Moulton Howe's latest report at earthfiles.com
www.earthfiles.com...

“The windows of houses in Sunspot around the Solar Observatory are still boarded up with sheets of wood, no one is around, like a ghost town. And I talked with one person today at the observatory who told me they had signed a non-disclosure form (NDA) and that they were compensated with enough money to where they would not want to talk about what has happened.” – Paul M., Drone Pilot from Alamagordo, NM, visited NSO, Monday, September 17, 2018, after “re-opening”

So since Monday we've got a Sheriff and Observatory Director who are still in the dark. We've got reports of NDAs, compensation and employees being told what to say. We've got an official 'explanation' that doesn't add up and doesn't provide any new information. Whilst to me, all of this begs more questions, it appears that interest is beginning to bottom out following AURA's statement.

trends.google.com...

So whilst a number of people might not be happy with AURA's statement, if it was supposed to bring closure to this situation, it appears to be working. And if people think this whole operation(whatever it may have been) was botched, there has been absolutely nothing leaked on what actually happened.

a reply to: SackCloth

The operation itself was practically flawless. In and out, no muss, no fuss. It was the peripheral side of things that sucked and hurt to watch.

originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: SackCloth

The operation itself was practically flawless. In and out, no muss, no fuss. It was the peripheral side of things that sucked and hurt to watch.

Me thinks “they” should work on their cover story game and not keep the local hoss out of the loop kicking off the whole butterfly effect type deal...

originally posted by: wylekat

originally posted by: howtonhawky
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EH? Did I miss something?

No, but your in the right direction.

Omg this thread is....

Okay, if any one ever said, "Hey, Sarra, what's ATS all about anyway?!" I'd show them this entire thread.

Mysterious mysteries of mystery.
Posters being inquisitive, helpful, picking their brains, sharing info, contacting others, pondering, wondering....

There's no

1. Hate or arguing
2. Trolls derailing.
3. No smug, "It's clearly a rock, folks" or mad cries of "Faaaake!!!!"


Thank you, op and responders. THIS is 100% what embodies ATS.

I'm absolutely loving and appreciating it.

I'm only on page 4 or 5 so haven't got em all read yet amd that's fine. I just had to let my warm feels out.

I've missed this ats. Big time.

a reply to: sarra1833

Well don't go anywhere! We're still working on it, some new perspective would be great.
It has been a cool thread

a reply to: sarra1833

Thank you, op and responders. THIS is 100% what embodies ATS.

Wow thanks for that!
Only wish we had more interesting mysteries to discuss also would like WOW endings!!
Hard to let go!

All I know is during that time the Schumann resonance was off the charts....
the Sedona effect

Just too coincidental to leave alone

Since life began, the Earth has been surrounding and protecting all living things with a natural frequency pulsation of 7.83 HZ—the ancient Indian Rishis called OM. "Schumann Resonance" refers to the frequency of the electromagnetic field of the earth. ......This frequency has been associated with high levels of hypnotizability, meditation, increased HGH levels and cerebral blood flow levels seem to be much higher while this frequency is being stimulated. OM mantra was uttered by the Vedic sages who stayed on the banks of the river Saraswati in 9000 BC. Vedic civilization of Saraswati flourished till 4000 BC, till the river became non-perennial due to tectonic shifts blocking the Himalayan Glacier mouth. The elite then migrated all over including Western coast of India, Mesopotamia, Europe and Russia.

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a reply to: SackCloth

We've got reports of NDAs, compensation and employees being told what to say.

What has the government so shook that they offer enough money to shut people up???