Legal Weed Is a Reality in America, but Congress Refuses to Admit It

a reply to: Bramble Iceshimmer
Lol, sorry for the purely anecdotal evidence but I know over a hundred people who smoke pot and not one has ever exhibited signs of psychotic episodes. I must read up on this, if you are right then I should be worried for my friends...zoicks! 14 of them could be the next victims of psychosis and reefer madness...I must warn them!!!!

originally posted by: Bramble Iceshimmer
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Forgot where I read, either today or yesterday, something like a link between cannabis and schizophrenia and only 1 in 7 adults use. Tried google and there were lots of hits but not the one I remember.

So, apparently some part of the 1 in 7 will become schizophrenic or exacerbate their schizophrenia which would seem to fit the observed phenomena in the States where legalized.

You are going to have to do better than that with your anti-pot propaganda. You'll have to produce the source for anyone to listen to you. It's hard to convince people to distrust pot these days, and you aren't going to succeed by talking about a study you totally for realsies read this one time.

While you are at it, please also produce the study that showed that schizophrenia rates are similar to this 1:7 rate that you suggest pot causes in states that have legalized it. Since that is also a wild claim you just made with no supporting evidence.

a reply to: andy06shake
Good points mate
The "It's the law" thing has always made me laugh, and I only ever see it online, people outraged about defying the law for the sake of the law. I point out the legal rape of wives up until the mid 90's in Britain as a horrible example of 'the law' being wrong.
Basic morals is all I run by, does whatever I'm doing harm or impact on someone else's life?
I couldn't give a # what the law is in any circumstance, just my own moral code. My mates are the same, hell my community is the same, we police ourselves and pot has been legal in these parts for years as far as the community is concerned.

I often wonder what Stepford Wives world these people live in who are outraged because someone broke the law? Do they never drive at 71MPH on the motorway either? Lol, slaves.

EDIT
On a side note, Heroin is effectively legal in my parts as well. Our cops are massively under resourced compared to the rest of the UK, you'll be lucky to see one unless it is in bar/nightclub land on a weekend, or a murder.
I asked a (rare to see) cop a year or so ago why he wasn't searching/arresting matey over the street who is the known single trade smack dealer, I'd nick him every day lol, and he replied that the public order crime bull# would go through the roof if 30 odd addicts didn't get their hit. I laughed and agreed that I understood, telling him us civilians are the same, if they are robbing from a supermarket nobody cares, but if they start stealing from the local corner shop they get a beating.
Same if they get all scary public order thing frightening kids or whatever, nobody calls cops, they just get a mild spanking.
The cop laughed, he knows full well the community runs the place, he's just a referee or bouncer lol.

originally posted by: CADpro
Dope makes dumb people even more stupid - CADpro

Managing a fab shop for many years, there has been quite a few dopers in the ranks. I once had to fire an entire install crew who thought meth would make em work faster & longer. This wasn't the case when after 2-days on the job the GC called to tell me my crew were all tweeking most spinning in circles accomplishing nothing.

Then there was a pot head in my shop that forgot to move his arm in the press break and almost squished his arm off. Let's not forget about bong hit Bobby, who shortly after returning from lunch break dope-toke ran his hand thru the table saw losing a few fingers.

So YES, employers need to screen new hires & current employees for dope. This greatly reduces the liability for the company. If dope is against the law, then you shouldn't be doing it or being under the influence of or in possession of dope.

If you chose to do dope, it shows you to be careless and have no regards for the laws in society. Basically saying you will do dope no matter what anyone says or laws put in place. It's all about you and your dope. F#k everything else and everybody.

Some laws are just stupid.

And if your on pot at work sure fire them. In their private life's it's not your business.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Just a few

Cannabis and Schizophrenia: Trigger or Treatment?

23andMe Data Suggests Genetic Link Between Cannabis Use and Schizophrenia

Scientists discover a genetic link between cannabis use and SCHIZOPHRENIA

Cannabis use and the risk of developing a psychotic disorder

Can Marijuana Trigger Schizophrenia?

Marijuana Users Risk Schizophrenia, But the Drug Helps Pain

One in seven U.S. adults used marijuana in 2017

I used the above for 1 in 7 adults use therefore if that is true and that some weed users will become schizophrenic or exacerbate their schizophrenia is true then it follows that some part of the 1 in 7 will become schizophrenic or exacerbate their schizophrenia which would lead to my conclusion that it seems to fit the observed phenomena in the States where legalized.

My point is the progressive States seem to be predominately going all in on weed thereby explaining the craziness of the left.

a reply to: Bramble Iceshimmer

You are making a rather weak partisan appeal. While the jury is still out on cannabis's relation to schizophrenia, trying to use these studies to say that left wing people are nuts is a terrible leap in logic.

For one, as I stated in the OP, cannabis support is bi-partisan. For two, red states have decriminalized or allowed medical marijuana too.

a reply to: Bramble Iceshimmer

I don't need to read any of those to know it's bull#.

Let's just for fun say you are correct. It makes you crack.

So?

So the gov is looking out for our best interest?
Lots of things can cause problems down the road
Too much salt
Too much sugar
Too many cigarettes
Too much alcohol

All these things are legal and available to adults who make their own choices.

Grass should be the same


Now let me say again that all your weed schizophrenic talk is total bull#.

I can use my eyes and brain to figure that out.
I don't need bull# links and slanted studies.

Experience surpasses that.

a reply to: TinySickTears

Hear hear!

The biggest reason why the US has trouble legalizing not because they give a # about lives but it would open a new world .
Hemp can build cars, homes, food, textiles, oil, Marijuana and hemp both come from the same species of plant.
If they open one door they just opened the door to "industrial hemp"

a reply to: madenusa

Yup, blame Nylon for killing hemp

originally posted by: Autorico
a reply to: madenusa

Yup, blame Nylon for killing hemp

china is our biggest hemp producer go figure.

a reply to: madenusa

They seem to be more into sustainable resources, they use a lot of bamboo for scaffolding, which is very sustainable and strong/flexible.

If you want it legalised then take Big Pharma to court over it...claim it cures cancer and al diseases which it does and go to court over it....blow out the real truths....do it class action so no one person can be bullied or accidented.

Make a real push to get the SCIENTIFIC FACTS ABOUT MJ BEING AN ANTI-PARASITIC THAT CAN STOP CANCER ...embedded into the legal system so they cannot suppress it anymore...

a reply to: one4all

Hopefully that will happen post Oct 17 here in Canada when it's legalised.

a reply to: one4all

You'd go nowhere taking Big Pharm to court over this. It isn't Big Pharm that is keeping the plant illegal. They may be sending some lobbying money to support that cause, but at the end of the day it is the government that is primarily responsible for its legal status. Not to mention, which entity would you sue? Big Pharm is just a catchall term for all major pharmaceutical developers, but the companies that make it up don't all have the same goals and beliefs regarding medicine.

Also, a lawsuit will do nothing to get medical pot approved. Medical pot, whether Big Pharma is standing in its way or not, will require FDA approval before a doctor can legally (at the federal level) prescribe it to a patient.

Keep in mind that just because pot is an amazing wonder drug, doesn't mean it is exempt from standard medical regulations that all other medicines are subject to.

originally posted by: Bluntone22
When medical use marijuana is legalized federally, does anyone want to take bets on the amount stress and depression disorders goes up?

50%
75%
??
Anyone?

Perfectly blunt....yes so cool of ya to give us a good one, baby

You and I feel the stress coming on right now!! Am I wrong??

Hehehe

While my country has legal weed for many decades, the production is still very much a gray area. This has a nasty consequence that there is no quality control and production facilities are illegal and, for the most part, in the hands of criminals.
Studies over the years have shown a steady rise in the levels of THC due to the crossbreeding of plants with the best crops. I remember a story of snoop dog comming to the netherlands for a few concerts and him consuming some of our stronger cannabis. You would think he'd be able to cope but as it turned out he was incapacitated and not able to perform and the concert was delayed as such.

Now this is a funny story but there is a real danger of high levels of THC. I've experienced this myself and I can tell you there's nothing chill about lying on the couch with your heart beating like crazy in your chest. And the paranoia setting in thinking you're having a heart attack is not helping either. Now the effect wears of after 30-60 minutes but still no bueno. I used to put like 1-2 grams of cannabis in a joint, those days are gone. Especially after like 2-3 weeks of not smoking you want to take it easy.

As long as there are politicians, they will be drinking alcohol. The alcohol lobby will see to that.
As long as they never imbibe in cannabis, their consciences will remain blunted by the alcohol. Inhibition is the first thing to be dissolved. Without ethics, they become maniacs with power. Psychotic behavior must be encouraged in government because that is all there is inhabiting Congress. You can't create order out of chaos if your henchmen are sane! Sane people would not do what they do.
Quite disgusting.

a reply to: Krazysh0t




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According to this study, Alcohol is way worse for you than MJ. With the medicinal benefits and stuff like that why is it still illegal? I have never done any drugs, but, I think if it grows naturally how can it be illegal, stuff like heroin, meth, even coc aine are heavily processed and manufactured, but weed and mushrooms? It is insane to me the government basically tells you " You can't pick that plant and eat it, or smoke it.

originally posted by: 14377
IMO Marijuana is one of the biggest threats to our country's economic recovery . Just not in the way that statement implies . During the drug screening process the least harmful drug is the one most often detected because it can stay in your system up to 30 days .

That leads to millions of jobseekers being disqualified almost immediately. It also causes workers who smoked a joint three weeks ago then were tested to lose their job.

In Trumps economy we have more jobs than people seeking of them. Legalization or some form of minimization by law or regulation forbiding insurance companies to disqualify people for it. Would put all those people back in the workforce.

The way I look at it legalization especially now is now a benefit to the country not a detriment .

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