Apollo 15 Astronaut Says Humans Are Descendants Of Ancient Aliens

originally posted by: Archivalist

originally posted by: Charizard
I think it's possible we were somehow engineered by an extraterrestrial species. At the same time though, if you dismiss creation theory and believe in evolution, then I don't see why it's also impossible to believe that we did evolve from a native Earth species. After all, if aliens DID create the human species, then said aliens would have had to evolve too. If they could be a product of evolution, I don't know why we couldn't be as well.

I was engineered by an alien species!?!?!?

Wow quality assurance sure does suck in space. I'd like to write a letter to Space Underwriter's Lab for this one.

If aliens engineered me, why I breath, drink, and eat from the same hole?!?!? You know how many humans die just because of that?!?? There's going to be a recall, or a class action suit, I tell you what.

Also, not as problematic, and maybe "clever", why do I expel waste liquid and reproduce from the same hole????

And now that I'm getting older, why the hair from my head showing up on my shoulders and in my ears?!?! Gotta fix the hair relocation issues.

And, why did they put the sewer so close to the playground?

a reply to: chr0naut

I want to know who first came up with that.

I would buy him a bottle of Jim Beam.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: chr0naut

I want to know who first came up with that.

I would buy him a bottle of Jim Beam.

Near as I can tell, it was mentioned in the 2008 movie "Forgetting Sarah Marshall" scripted by Jason Segel.

None the less, it's damn funny.

many materials that were classified are no longer. I believe that these astronauts are either government shills to misdirect us from more important (bad) things they do or.... with age comes guilt or a combo of the declassified areas now allowing him to talk and the guilt . be WE are never told the truth due to national security . they must protect us above all..their services are their job and I feel sorry for them having to hold in these world changing proof...poor people. im sure glad infos being let loose and public will see .there's more to the universe ...my house has many rooms

a reply to: Hayabusa1300

Apollo was a Kennedy program announced May 25, 1961.
Dallas, TX November 22, 1963,
From Russia with Love May 27, 1964
Mary Poppins August 27, 1964

Difficult time for critical thinkers under age 7 squabbling with Tracy.

If we are 'evolved' from apes, why are there still apes around? Shouldn't they have evolved by now?

We have 23 pair of chromosomes for a total of 46. I wonder how many chromosomes Apes have...24 pair for 48 chromosomes? That doesn't make any sense. Hmmm, how many other mammals have 46 chromosomes like we do?

Why does it appear our second pair of chromosomes have been fused? Why does that pair contain the greatest number of DNA information (8%) compared to any other pair?

Maybe the aliens are still among us today. Maybe they are the shadow government. Maybe they are the great lineage that created the abrahamic religions. Maybe this astronaut is simply sharing with us what he is allowed to.

There is a lot of our history that is hidden. What about tartaria? Why do some of the openings, arrow slots and gates on the great wall of china facing inwards towards china. I would be willing to bet their history has been whitewashed as well.

The aliens came down to live among us. There were probably more than just 1 race of aliens involved with the creation of mankind. Göbekli Tepe could have been build and inhabited before the great deluge and the cities of sumar post deluge.

There are a lot of stories excluding those told by sitchin that all seem related. Why was Esther left out of the official cannon, because it referred heavily to the 'shining ones'? It wasn't able to be conformed to our fake history?

So many threads. So much to discover.

originally posted by: ClovenSky
If we are 'evolved' from apes, why are there still apes around? Shouldn't they have evolved by now?

Because we didn't evolve from apes. Evolution does not say we evolved from apes. What it says is that both apes and humans evolved from a common ancestor that was neither ape nor human.

Even earlier than that, mammals (placental mammals) are thought to have evolved from a shrew-like or weasel-like creature. So humans share a relatively recent (recent as in "post-dinosaur") common ancestor with walruses, ferrets, mice, dogs, cats, elephants, dolphins, squirrels, bats, and any other placental mammal.

We have 23 pair of chromosomes for a total of 46. I wonder how many chromosomes Apes have...24 pair for 48 chromosomes? That doesn't make any sense. Hmmm, how many other mammals have 46 chromosomes like we do?

A few species of mouse, some bat species, an antelope, a few other primates (some monkeys, tamarins, marmosets). There are also some non-mammals with 23 pair, such as a species of guppies.

Not all apes species have 24 pair. Gorillas and chimpanzees do, but the number of chromosomes varies from species to species. Gibbons (an ape) have species with 38, 44, 50, or 52 chromosomes, depending on the species.

By the way, hares also have 24 pair, like gorillas and chimps.

a reply to: Harte

I did think about my post and i said what i wanted to say. The fact it wasnt worded as to how you would have liked, is irrelevent. You didnt address my point or perhaps more likely didnt have the capacity to comprhend it.

originally posted by: Hanrak77
a reply to: Harte

I did think about my post and i said what i wanted to say. The fact it wasnt worded as to how you would have liked, is irrelevent. You didnt address my point or perhaps more likely didnt have the capacity to comprhend it.

So, you pick probably the most famous scientist that ever lived, and use him to say "this guy knew science" and try to relate this to an astronaut opining on ancient history?
Sorry. But that's not exactly a point.
However, it was addressed.

Harte

originally posted by: Hanrak77

originally posted by: schuyler

originally posted by: easynow

Seems like every Astronaut has something to say about the existence of Aliens, and I'm wondering what the members of ATS think about these comments ? is it just crazy conjecture ? or the truth ?

Crazy conjecture. Generally speaking, and certainly back then, the astronaut core was made up of engineers, test pilots, and those of a similar educational background who likely never took a course in anthropology o%r paleontology in their lives. What do they know about human origins? Whatever they read in a book by Erik von Daniken. In other words, not only are they not experts in the field they are almost completely naive about the subject. This is yet another example of the invalid "argument from authority." Just because he flew around the Moon does not make him an expert in every field in which he cares to opine.

You really make me laugh here. You stated, 'just becuase he flew around the moon' as if its a walk to the local shop. You also state that his era of upbrininging and education, was in your words 'certainly back then' a relfection of his current views. However Einstien had split the atom and talked indepth about qauntum mechanics many years earlier and how it was spooky. You think for one second he wasnt on the cusp of modern science?

Al Wordon has a Bachelors degree from West Point in Military Science (basically the science of warfare) and he has a Masters degree in aeronautical engineering. He is no expert in the field of human origins, human biology, archaeology, or anything else that might have to do with knowing how the human species formed or what the fossil records tell of human evolution.

He's just some guy (probably a relatively intelligent one) who has some personal ideas about humans being created by aliens. Wordon being an astronaut does not make his beliefs any more valid.

He is certainly entitled to his views as a layman in the field, and those views from a layman could potentially have some validity. However, he would need to present some evidence backing his claim, and explain away any evidence that may refute his claim.


I never understood why people are so quick to blindly believe an idea that comes from someone else who offers no corroborating evidence -- in fact I'll go as far to say EVEN when the idea comes from an expert. Any new piece of information you take in, even from an expert in the field, should go through a filter of some critical thought and have the evidence supporting it scrutinized against previously verified knowledge.

You can be open minded to treat all information as if it might be valid, but then after that do some investigative research before accepting a new piece of information as actually being valid.

originally posted by: GeechQuestInfo
If I had to lay down money in Vegas on how the human race was started, I’m probably laying it on the Ancient Alien hypothesis.

In order of what I feel like would have been the most likely:

1) Ancient Alien Hypothesis
2) Evolution









99) Creationism

Now, I’m not sure exactly what the “Ancient Alien Hypothesis” would entail; probes with DNA, actual breeding with Ancient man, a complete reengineering of Ancient man. Take you pick.

I’m just saying that the massive increase in brain size of human beings is unaccounted for and the only thing I can think of that naturally could enhance that would be psychedelics, which may as well be from another planet.

Everyone knows we are just temporarily living on Bender's ass until we get thrown out to space

That or we are just stored out on some locker room chanting jingles songs while we wait for the creator to come back

We could have been modified, but also we could just have been a bunch of rejects from whatever civilization and we were left here to rot because they did not see any future in us, and then instead of dying we just kept multiplying and now they are either curious about how we managed to survive for so long or completely terrified we have managed to continue to be a bunch of rejects after who knows how many zillion years

Although we don't openly admit it, yes, our rituals and symbols support the claim that we are descendants of exoterric visitors. If interrogated, I would deny everything, but there you have it from the mouth of a Mason.

Of course, my statement should be taken as parody only.

originally posted by: CanadianMason
Although we don't openly admit it, yes, our rituals and symbols support the claim that we are descendants of exoterric visitors. If interrogated, I would deny everything, but there you have it from the mouth of a Mason.

Of course, my statement should be taken as parody only.

Ah HAH!
The Intergalactic Parody Ritual!

Harte

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: ausername

I want to believe the evolution myth but I don't think it's real

why are we the only species to evolve it doesn't make sense? what about sharks and alligator's why is it only a single species that has evolved the way we have?
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something else is going on that we can't understand or don't want to believe

I give you the "Stoned Ape Hypothesis" ...

a reply to: Harte

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: ausername

I want to believe the evolution myth but I don't think it's real

why are we the only species to evolve it doesn't make sense? what about sharks and alligator's why is it only a single species that has evolved the way we have?
O
something else is going on that we can't understand or don't want to believe

I give you the "Stoned Ape Hypothesis" ...

Haha. I do love this theory and although interesting...
Here we are lead to believe ape's ate special mushrooms and they evolved in to a literal super version of themselves.
But the possiblity of a civilisation colonising a planet is the far-fetched idea.
Hmmm...

a reply to: ClovenSky

We come from distant star system.
But still in cosmic scale, just from round the corner, and more importantly, from our own galaxy.
First of us got here onboard of the moon, the original noah's ark...and than they ('we') got the startup of human cyvilisation on earth.
It involved genetics...in order to, accomodate our species to different reality which also supposed to couse philosophical confusion in distant future.
They are engineering game field for souls to get through the process.
Let's call it vineyard or farm where process of sowing and harvesting is form of transforming and utilising energy in order to achieve sustainability.
After they arrived from 'atlantis' because this myth is deliberete remains of original location which never had its origin on this planet but instead is hidden in sky but was, again, deliberetely engineered on surface of earth to copy star systems where underworld is hidden to naked eye, they started building megaliths...
What for?
It was global starmapping.
What for?
To hide location of the world hidden in sky but placed on the surface of the earth in process of rebuilding important markings from 'above' onto 'below'.
As above so below.
So where is human's origins of cyvilisation?
Some will say it's in ancient india, some will point too sumer or egypt where others will tell it is in modern day bolivia...but answer can be only one.
The copy of location of underworld, place of origin of our souls, is in sumer...
Atlantis story that comes from egypt is nothing else than story that points to sumeria and not santorini, canary islands or south america amongst some most often talked about.
While story was deliberetely distorted for millenia in order to hide the truth left for the right time to be 'discovered'.
Sumeria was copy of specific star location.
If you want to locate point in sky and print map of it with x being a hidden tresure you have to first divide whole 2D surface into sections.
They did it by dividing night sky into 12 sections and then they started creating mythologies in every originaly formed culture all over the globe in order to imprint the map on cultural level.
Like wise they imprinted map in form of megalithic structures globally and in holy books much later.
Rituals where same way of confirming this map.
Modern day enterteinment like movie and music industry is also heavily used in order to not only imprint this map but in order to get to a point in humans history where everything will be rediscovered and it will be done by a figure that was 'prophesied' for millenia.
That figure isncalled by many names.
Chosen one, the one, neo.
Bible call him parakletos...spirit of truth...the one that will lead humanity towards the most mysterious questions:
Where we come from, who we are and where we are going.
It is time when this will be answered.
Parakletos is a pole star.
He sees alot because the hole star 'game' spins around him like a carousel and he sits at the top of the show.
But he has answers that won't be welcomed by many.
He will bring with enucement of enlightenment fear upon humans.
His role will be to convinced those that are ready for harvest that human cyvilisation is destined for punishement and the judgement is justified...there is hidden world, home called paradise.
Thise that are ready to go back are those that will pass the test at the end of the great year, great cykle of 26 000 years.
How many lifes we have experienced during that time?
And why we repeat the same story with diferent scenography and actors.
It is all theater with secret workers that need to make sure the showngoes according to the plan.

48-16-11

Not all questions can be answered but those important ones will be soon.

Trynity hide one amongst two like 3 great pyramids, 3 crosses with jesus in the middle, 3 ships leaving 'old' world in search for a 'new' one...
Neptune and gilgamesh two powerfull gods...jesus and john the baptist...
Solar barge floating upon cosmoc waters taking souls onto the journey into underworld.
Twin towers and third one,smaller one collapsing in the first year of third millenium.
Jesus reborning on the rhird day early hours in the 'morning'...
Like thor drinking from the sea.
Man waiting for paradise from the land of the pole star.
Spirit of truth at the end of the era...when olive tree will be ready...when storm is on the horizon, when global economy is wrapped with blasting gelatin to ignite main charges on the day and on an hour, when middle east, main source of planetary's number one resource is being set up for destabilosation...when sophia is introduced to the world and humans are brainlessly preparing army of drones and help preparing global brain able to control all systems connected into IOT...
When humans are living deads walking in trans of agressive consumptionism and hedonism...when planet is drawning in pollution of cancerous result of one species activity...is when the whole truth is going to be revealed...thanks to internet which was also prepared in this very order of fulfilment of the great plan of deception.
Time of Harvest is at the door.
When doctor knows that the patient will die, is he going to pretend there is still a chance to heal or should he tell to prepare for what is inevitable.
?
Every myth, holy scriptures, architecture, rituals, popcuture...all are aspects of the same story.
Humans came here to experiance new beginning, corruption and fall...cycle ends and starts but there isa way out, way to paradise, way to underworld...straight to brown dwarf, bes, oldest of all star types.
Who is ready, will escape another cykle of imprisonment here.
Rest will be burned...nuclear war is on the horizon and secret societies, top figures amongst the whole network will make sure things will again go according to the plan...
This world was destroyed many times before.
We are neing prepared and preparation is ending.
Punishement for humanity by humanity...funny how well things where written.
When they astablished megalithic global network, than, they have staged conflicts and most, dissapeard through stargates transfering it's consciousness via whormholes which where tapped to by use of electromagnetic properties of pyramids.
Brain contains magnetite and elwctromagnetic filed...like planets, satelites and stars whoch act as the main cosmic gates...what we see above is ocean full of ships that takes subatomic based energy and transfer that through it's cores between network of this cosmoc web...subway corridors aka wormhole exist along gravities of cosmoc bodies and electromagnetic forces that holds everything in it's shape...
Time is coming, prepare.

eonmark

The genuinely interesting planetary science question behind many of these theories is that biological material CAN be naturally transported from planet to planet, under certain conditions. Survivable transport of spore-bearing rocks from Mars to Earth was a matter of some debate thirty years ago when it was declared 'impossible' because any energetic event powerful enough to expel an object from a planet's surface was supposed to be forceful enough to pulverize, even vaporize it -- until more advanced mode,ing showed that glancing impacts created hypervelocity gas jets fast enough to entrain and accelerate rock debris 'gently' enough [hundreds of G's instead of tens of thousands of G's] to escape velocity. They would drift through space, eventually being sterilized by cosmic rays, but some by chance would reach a destination before that happened. From Mars, some would reach the Earth/Moon system where the pieces that hit the airless moon pulverized [end of story] and the pieces that hit Earth's atmosphere slowed and only heated on the outer skin, and reached the surface [or the oceans] with interior contents un-smashed un-sterilized. Safe landings on Venus and Titan would also have been theoretically feasible. Earth debris being blasted to Mars would have been a thousand times rarer because of Earth's greater gravity. But not impossible.

originally posted by: MrConspiracy

originally posted by: djz3ro

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: ausername

I want to believe the evolution myth but I don't think it's real

why are we the only species to evolve it doesn't make sense? what about sharks and alligator's why is it only a single species that has evolved the way we have?
O
something else is going on that we can't understand or don't want to believe

I give you the "Stoned Ape Hypothesis" ...

Haha. I do love this theory and although interesting...
Here we are lead to believe ape's ate special mushrooms and they evolved in to a literal super version of themselves.
But the possiblity of a civilisation colonising a planet is the far-fetched idea.
Hmmm...

If you understand a little about how the active ingredient in magic mushrooms works you might realise this is possible.

originally posted by: MrConspiracy
Haha. I do love this theory and although interesting...
Here we are lead to believe ape's ate special mushrooms and they evolved in to a literal super version of themselves.
But the possiblity of a civilisation colonising a planet is the far-fetched idea.
Hmmm...

What's the problem?
I mean, it happened to Mario.

Harte