The Universe is Mental, God is the All in Everything

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: Itisnowagain
I did watch the first few minutes. Like you, the interviewer asked Toni if she was a teacher and she responded with a non-answer, just like you do. She goes off on some tangent about seeing the interview, the trees and the sky in the background, the person holding the camera, etc. but evades an answer. Non-answers are not answers. It's jibberish meant to deflect and confuse from real meaning for those who choose not to understand with their own free will that is opposite of God's will.

On page 3 you say:

Itsnowagain speaks the same mumbo jumbo.

Now Toni Packer is speaking jibberish.

Maybe you need to learn the language of mumbo jumbo and jibberish to understand.
I would give up if I were you.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

There is a mind made self and there is the SELF which is ever present.

What we really have is ourself (mind made self) and God which is ever present. God tells us to love Him with all of our heart, all of our soul, and all of our mind. That which is separate has commanded us to use OUR MINDS to love Him and obey Him, although you're not forced to based on the fact that you have control over your own mind.

If you watched the video............just the first 5 minutes..... you may understand.

I did watch the first few minutes. Like you, the interviewer asked Toni if she was a teacher and she responded with a non-answer, just like you do. She goes off on some tangent about seeing the interviewer, the trees and the sky in the background, the person holding the camera, etc. but evades an answer. Non-answers are not answers. It's jibberish meant to deflect and confuse from real meaning for those who choose not to understand with their own free will, which is opposite of God's will. God wants us to know who He is.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Maybe you need to learn the language of mumbo jumbo and jibberish to understand.

Why would I want to do that? Jibberish is jibberish and it doesn't require using the mind that God gave you to come to any true realization. It only tells you to give up reality by claiming that you don't really exist and it's simply not true.

I would give up if I were you.

Why don't you tell us why you choose to use your own free will to talk jibberish. Why do you feel the need to exist in a state of unknowing, non-reality, and confusion? You're trying to hide from God, but He sees you anyway, so give it up.

a reply to: Deetermined

Freewill is debatable.

Then again the notion of predestination also leaves a lot to be desired.

a reply to: andy06shake

If we didn't have free will, we would all be puppets of God doing everything righteous all of the time. But we use our free will to decide whether or not we're going to commit good or evil. We do have that choice, with the knowledge that we can be held responsible for our sinful actions, but nevertheless, it's still a choice we get to make. If we want order, we all have to live within a set of laws whether they be natural laws, God's laws, or man's laws. That's one thing you'll never escape from. Order was created in every fiber of our being and existence for a reason.

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: andy06shake

If we didn't have free will, we would all be puppets of God doing everything righteous all of the time.

That is your belief, no more verifiable than claims of pixies or dragons, you have nothing other than belief yet present it as fact.
This whole thread is infected with beliefs presented as facts, so while your faith may give you some perceived comfort in life, I'm just here to remind everyone that you have nothing more than unverifiable belief to support your claims.
I don't believe in any of that crazy woo unless you have some new evidence to bring to the class?
...I'll keep waiting lol

a reply to: Deetermined

Neuroscience suggests otherwise im afraid.

Freewill is the stuff of philosophy and metaphysics, at least in the way we understand the notion.

There are no Gods law only Man.......And physics of course.

a reply to: andy06shake

Neuroscience suggests otherwise im afraid.

Freewill is the stuff of philosophy and metaphysics, at least in the way we understand the notion.

I can't wait to hear your explanation for how you came to that conclusion.

a reply to: Deetermined
I can't wait to hear your explanation for how you came to this conclusion either...

If we didn't have free will, we would all be puppets of God doing everything righteous all of the time.

...you have nothing aside from unverifiable belief, yet you present it as fact?

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

I don't believe in any of that crazy woo unless you have some new evidence to bring to the class?
...I'll keep waiting lol

I don't believe in your meaningless notions unless you have some evidence to bring to this class....I'll keep waiting LOL!

originally posted by: Deetermined
a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

I don't believe in any of that crazy woo unless you have some new evidence to bring to the class?
...I'll keep waiting lol

I don't believe in your meaningless notions unless you have some evidence to bring to this class....I'll keep waiting LOL!

Urm..perhaps you misunderstand how extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence from the person making the claims?
I make no claims, I just don't believe yours due to the lack of any verifiable evidence to support it.
I don't require any evidence to support my position, my stance is clear, you have nothing but unverifiable belief which you assert as fact.
If however you have some new evidence to present to the class I am of course open to change my opinion, but right now you have nothing...so yes...lol indeed.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

I make no claims, I just don't believe yours due to the lack of any verifiable evidence to support it.

LOL! You make no claims because you don't have a thought in your head and you wouldn't recognize verifiable evidence if it slapped you in the face. The Bible already warned us of this type of behavior, so I won't be going back and addressing the mindless mush or willful ignorance in this thread any more. Goodbye.

a reply to: Deetermined

I wouldn't waste my time.

a reply to: Deetermined

It's the reductionist view that we are simply a result of bio-mechanical process although we are literally able to create/ manipulate what's perceived as the physical world through thought and skill.

When you take a creative thought, apply it to a skill such as carpentry you can literally manifest your thought into reality with work. This work manipulates what is seen as matter into a new form that you can then use to your pleasure, such as a rocking chair.

That's beyond a result of bio-mechanical process.

a reply to: toysforadults

Thanks for that explanation.

I don't think most people realize that some of the creations, inventions, and discoveries that we come up with in this life are given to us through God. Man would never have been able to figure out some of the complexities of this universe and our lives on their own without some help from above. While God allows us enough knowledge to make progress, he also knows that everything He gives us can also be used for evil with the intent of hurting mankind (possibly even destroying it) in return. This is why God will never allow man to know and understand all of the secrets of the universe or life. It's our own free will that messes up the good that's been given to us.

a reply to: Deetermined
What's your evidence? The Bible? Lmao!!
That ain't verifiable evidence lol, you have nothing except belief which is why you are running away from the discussion.
I have no problem with people blindly believing the Bible, but when you start asserting such claims as facts in a debate I will always call it out for what it is...unverifiable belief, nothing more, nothing less.
Come back to me when you have some verifiable evidence, or adapt your posting style to "I believe..." and I'm happy to debate whatever it is you have faith in.

a reply to: Deetermined

From my perspective and the perspective of Hermes god and everything is like a hologram. Each bit of information contains the information for the whole within it.

What I can infer from this is that creation isn't truly creation what it is is awareness. An idea isn't new it's simply discovered. By becoming more aware I become more creative.

From this I can also infer that I won't find answers outside of myself, I already have all of the answers within.

originally posted by: toysforadults

What I can infer from this is that creation isn't truly creation what it is is awareness. An idea isn't new it's simply discovered. By becoming more aware I become more creative.

You are aware! There isn't a 'you' and 'awareness'.
You are aware of what is presenting itself.

You cannot become more aware................it is just that you maybe more aware of the story of 'you in time' - when the story of you is seen through.....the aware space will be free and more creative.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

hmmm interesting please explain