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originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Sheye
That’s an opinion and not a fact.
Reality is not a matter of opinion. Facts are facts. How you react to them is where opinion arises.
We are both entitled to our opinions. Let’s agree to disagree.
Donald Trump has always been a con artist. His presidency is his crowning grift. You are being played.
As far as I see, he hasn’t damaged the country.... all this witch hunt aside.
On the contrary, he has done his best to undermine the institutions that have made this country great. He has also alienated our allies and encouraged our enemies.
The ecomomy is booming.. low unemployment... negotiating better trade deals for the country.
The economy is continuing the recovery begun under the Obama administration. Trump has thrown gasoline on that fire, which means that when the business cycle turns, it will turn precipitously. Trump walked away from trade agreements that took years to negotiate in our favor. He will not be able to make any further agreements because no-one trusts him.
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
There is plenty of evidence that Russia interfered in the political process, there has been tons of smoke we just haven't nailed down the source yet.
If Trump isn't the source then the investigation will find who the source is, that's the point of the investigation, to find where the smoke is coming from, not pin it all on Trump without evidence.
Do you disagree that there has been smoke? Do you not want those who interfered with the elections to be punished and/or publicly outed? If it's not Trump then it's someone else, there is smoke that heavily implies a fire somewhere. You're in denial if you don't think so.
Regardless of who did it, evidence of Russian meddling does de-legitimatize the Trump presidency a bit.
I mean the POTUS does look like some old guy with a Russian swallow for a bride (the Don was 24 years old when Melania was born), just saying...
The problem with your facts is they are not actually facts. The Trumpsters keep asking for proof.
All I see are all of you lefty's failing to provide facts that are provable in any way, that collusion other than the DNC's occurred in 2016.
You who are not neutral and on the side of the left are hurting the freedom of mankind. You on the right of them are not right wing nut jobs but there are some comments that are pushing the limit from a few non regular posters.
edit on 13-8-2018 by Justoneman because: (no reason given)
originally posted by: Justoneman
originally posted by: chr0naut
originally posted by: 3NL1GHT3N3D1
There is plenty of evidence that Russia interfered in the political process, there has been tons of smoke we just haven't nailed down the source yet.
If Trump isn't the source then the investigation will find who the source is, that's the point of the investigation, to find where the smoke is coming from, not pin it all on Trump without evidence.
Do you disagree that there has been smoke? Do you not want those who interfered with the elections to be punished and/or publicly outed? If it's not Trump then it's someone else, there is smoke that heavily implies a fire somewhere. You're in denial if you don't think so.
Regardless of who did it, evidence of Russian meddling does de-legitimatize the Trump presidency a bit.
I mean the POTUS does look like some old guy with a Russian swallow for a bride (the Don was 24 years old when Melania was born), just saying...
So far the only thing tampered with was the voter rolls with illegal voters and dead people voting very likely HRC. Do YOU have any proof of Russian's changing votes so we can do something for real?
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Justoneman
The problem with your facts is they are not actually facts. The Trumpsters keep asking for proof.
The Trumpsters are in denial. Nothing will be sufficient to prove their idol has feet of clay.
All I see are all of you lefty's failing to provide facts that are provable in any way, that collusion other than the DNC's occurred in 2016.
DNC collusion? You mean hiring an American detective agency? Even Trump's lawyer is now claiming that collusion is not a crime. Here's why:
You who are not neutral and on the side of the left are hurting the freedom of mankind. You on the right of them are not right wing nut jobs but there are some comments that are pushing the limit from a few non regular posters.
edit on 13-8-2018 by Justoneman because: (no reason given)
Please explain why defending our constitutional republic from the attacks of a fascist foreign power are "hurting the freedom of mankind?" That is the sort of BS rhetoric that Russia has been pushing here. We need to unite, not fight. Oh, and calling centerists "lefties" is quite a tell.
Ron Paul guy here and NO you are not getting it. THE DNC cheated, period end of statement.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Justoneman
Ron Paul guy here and NO you are not getting it. THE DNC cheated, period end of statement.
Unlike Trump, all they did was cheat their base... they didn't sell out their country. Period.
ETA: Ron Paul is also in Russia's pocket, or haven't you noticed?
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Justoneman
Ron Paul guy here and NO you are not getting it. THE DNC cheated, period end of statement.
Unlike Trump, all they did was cheat their base... they didn't sell out their country. Period.
ETA: Ron Paul is also in Russia's pocket, or haven't you noticed?
They cheated in the General and in the Primary. They can't really win without cheating it appears to me.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Justoneman
They cheated in the General and in the Primary. They can't really win without cheating it appears to me.
And Trump couldn't win without Russian money and propaganda. Deal with it.
Who cares about money I want to know what votes were altered?
Dead voters voted that was likely DNC. Vote recounts had to be halted in Michigan where HRC got more votes than voters on the rolls. Way more votes taken than voters and that ended the Michigan recount.
originally posted by: proteus33
a reply to: carewemust
Totally agree with potus.
originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Justoneman
Who cares about money I want to know what votes were altered?
Trump cares about money. That's the point. Votes were altered in the minds of the voters. Think about that. You are defending one of the most spectacular brainwashings since the fall of the Third Reich.
Dead voters voted that was likely DNC. Vote recounts had to be halted in Michigan where HRC got more votes than voters on the rolls. Way more votes taken than voters and that ended the Michigan recount.
Source, please.
Votes were altered in the minds of the voters. Think about that.
originally posted by: 727Sky
I do believe anyone without a partisan axe to grind would agree with him.
originally posted by: Chance321
a reply to: DJW001
Votes were altered in the minds of the voters. Think about that.
I am and find it very disturbing. Disturbing that the Trump derangement has progressed to the point that you think people voted for President Trump because they were brain washed? Could you explain how this brain washing occurred? Was it in the water? Maybe the 24/7 hate Trump news coverage?