Poor people in the UK can't eat healthy food because...

Why do you care?

Oh, that's right. Because the UK has "free" medical care. Which you still have to pay for. Therefore when more people get sick than the government has the funds allocated for, they have to come up with more money from somewhere. And they will get it one way or another.

Free healthcare that isn't free. More socialist lies. So now what do we have? We have people who want to dictate other people's lifestyle to them because their taxes are too high. Right? And people try to give me that BS about how socialism and totalitarianism/dictatorship are not the same thing?

I don't know how many times I've had to argue with people who tell me I don't understand how socialism works after I've told them I don't want to live in a dictatorship.

Yeah. Tell me. How DOES it work? You've got your "free" healthcare now leave these people alone.

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Says he spent over 10 years investigating fraud for DWP then posts this...

I'm trusted because I'm not a grass and I don't work for the man.

huh....???

.....I will do you a favour OP and not ask to many questions about that.

Now if you feel I am misrepresenting your words, something I think what might help is if you learn to articulate yourself a little bit because the amount of profanity you're using actually makes some of your posts come off like you're a little triggered by someone have a opinion that is different to that of your own and your views might be better represented if you didn't resort to such language.

And to be clear it is a opinion its not a matter of right and wrong, I disagree with your opinion that most people who are on benefits are lazy scroungers cheating the system as you have tried to characterise them, I think its better to judge each person on a individual level and not make sweeping generalisations that have no basis in fact just because it makes your argument sound better.

So I am not wrong, just like your not wrong, we just have different opinions, its unfortunate that you're unable to respect a differing opinion as being just that.

Op should write his government for a grant to publish little booklets. Aim it at immigrants, youll get your grant and poor people will get their information.

a reply to: BrianFlanders
What has socialism got to do with people choosing to eat # unhealthy fast food when fresh food is cheap in the UK and more nutritious?
What has socialism got to do with people choosing to have a calorie intake higher than the calories they burn?
What has socialism got to do with me debunking the common excuses UK people make for being fat?

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Well surviving on only £7 a day does present somewhat of a challenge, healthy food or otherwise.

Then there are electricity and gas to consider.

It's whats in our food that makes us fat, and fact of the matter is the organic healthy produce cost more monies.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

I was trusted when I worked for the man, I was no normal civil servant even if I did sign the official secrets act. I was playing my own game. And don't give it the 'he says' and 'only got your word' bull#, you proclaim that you work for the NHS all the time so I take your word for it for the sake of debate. Should I expect proof from you now as well before we can discuss anything?

Oh I use profanity same as if we were in the pub because you use anecdotal examples all the time about NHS posts yet attack me whenever I do similar. It's pathetic, like you look for anything not actually realated to the points of the posts just something to argue about.

Regarding benefit fraud though I never said scroungers nor implied such a negative term. When you attacked me about single parents I'd already said I was talking about my friends so how was I attacking them.
Honestly I hate 'debating' with you because of how you try to give added invented value to my points.
It is people like you that forced me to put a disclaimer that I don't hate fat people, because you damn well would have said something like that to me if I hadn't.
It's pathetic fella, you are so desperate to appear pious,politically correct, and holier than thou.
You haven't a clue about the real world, just your public sector employed bubble.

a reply to: andy06shake
You are on about single people aged under 25. That is the only group on such a sum of money.
Their local housing allowance is also only the amount (just) for a single rented room in a shared house so there would be no bills on top.
I agree, being under 25 it is savage.

I have been getting the princley sum of £73 per week ESA after the tens of thousands I've paid in taxes over the years lol.
I can live on it though

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Getting back to the OP then because it seems like you need to clam down a little.

There are several factors that all contribute to the obesity issue, these are very complex social, psychological, biological and economic factors that I spent last night trying to explain to you. Obesity is a very difficult and emotive subject but its much more difficult to fix than simply eating less and exercising when you look at it on a national level because while it may sound easy enough the actual practicalities of it are very difficult for a lot of people.

I am sorry if you feel I have misrepresented your views however I stand by what I said about how you articulate your views because I can only interpret them as being quite simplistic at times and failing consisting of generalisations.

I am going to bow out of this thread now because it seems its getting you a little upset and that was never my intention.

Have a good one.

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy

Tonight I'm making a huge cooking pot of vegetable stew and needed a few ingredients, this was my shop earlier:
400 gramme can of chopped tomatoes - £0.35
750 gramme bag of new potatoes - £0.49
Medium sized Leek - £0.05
5 medium carrots - £0.30
10 Spring Onions - £0.26
One whole Garlic - £0.30
30 gramme jar of hot crushed Chillies - £0.85 (will last me a month or two)
Oh and as a snacking treat I bought a 180 gramme dipping pot of spicy chilli houmous to munch with some sliced baton carrots. That cost £1.20, but as I said, just a treat, I could do without it.

Anyway, the whole lot came to £2.60. I have two fiths of the garlic left, 5 spring onions, half the bag of potatoes, and obviously lots of crushed chillies because I can't use too much lol, they'll last for ages. Take away the houmous and what I've actually used in ingredients the whole cooking pot meal cost around £0.57 in total. It's cooking away and will feed a hearty bowl of veggie stew to a 4 people easily, healthy and cheap. I forgot stock cubes but a box of them is only 30 odd pence so I always have them in.
You might want to add cooking gas charges, I've checked my meter and it's been simmering away for an hour now and that has cost me £0.09 so far.
Poor people in the UK cant afford to eat and cook healthy food is a myth in the UK.

Clearly this meal cost less than most meals, but the real question is, did it taste the same!?

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

Those people under the age of 25 need just as much food as you or i to survive and maintain their health through.

Mate if you can live off £73 per week you're doing one hell of a job.

Tell you this the paltry sum provided by our government is in no way in line with inflation.

Cost of living is only going to go up, especially so with Brexit about to ruin the day in a whole new way.

I'm not overweight I can eat anything I want and not gain a pound.

I'm a single male on food stamps. I really have to plan my meals out to make the most out of what I get. I rarely buy anything from the frozen food section. I make a lot of big meals that last days. It's really a pain cooking it all and I hate eating the same stuff over and over for days. I could freeze some of it but then the cycle starts all over again having to cook. I'm also conscience about not wasting stuff. I can't just buy 2 carrots at the grocery store I have to buy a whole bag. So I stick to meals where I waste as little as possible. I can make a big pot of chili with canned beans tomatoes and all of that stuff. For me to make a pot of chili it cost's $30. I eat hot dogs a lot. They're easy to grill no mess and there's not much to waste.

My cousin on the other hand all he does is eat from the frozen food section. After working 10 hours a day he comes home and pops a pizza in the oven. I won't eat the stuff it's all disgusting to me. It looks and tastes like dog food. I make fun of him and say he's eating chicken beaks and and cows balls.

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin

Dude I'll just ignore you is probably best, I'm sick of the way you slyly have a go at me in this and other threads with lines like 'you need to educate yourself' or 'bashing single parents' when clearly I wasn't because I'd already told you I was talking about my friends.
You are very clever in the way you try to twist my words and frankly I dislike any form of debate with you because of your sly attacking style.

So of course, I expect you to continue doing so, I imagine you pride yourself on it but I can't be arsed with your style anymore. I've recently given up smoking and am in a bad mood so responding to you will just get me banned.
I'll ignore you so feel free to ignore me...I've always suspected it's something personal with you since we clashed in another couple of threads, but your 'bashing single mothers' claim just now was a new low for you trying to twist my words and making me out as a bad person.

EDIT
You may just say I faked it but you basically doubted my word so I've dug out my first passcard for what was then the DSS. A very young looking me in 1993 lol, note the official stamp was still DHSS they hadn't switched them all over yet.
I may be a wanker and a prick sometimes (ain't we all) but I'm always truthful. I've lived independently since age 16 so my friends are my family and it's all built on trust. Honesty, and my reputation for honesty, is massively important to me. You may well find some people say 'oh yeh he can be a prick' but you won't find anyone who says I can't be trusted. So even though we are just names on the internet, here you go...

a reply to: andy06shake

Oh it is an existence not living, for sure, I'm hoping to be back working full time again from Tuesday because it is hard. I'm just lucky I'm self employed with a few people I contract with so I can dip in and out as I'm able to.
I couldn't live long term on 73 quid. I've given up smoking recently because even the smuggled baccy is a dent to the budget. Summer it is easy, £8 a week Electric, £5 on gas, £7 water, no council tax (100% rebate) no other housing costs, so the remaining £53 is for everything else.
Imagine long term having to buy clothes, gas in winter, etc etc, it's why so many people are on the scam, because it is impossible to live otherwise.
...I get free internet because my son lives next door so I use his wifi, fair deal after all the years bringing him up lol

a reply to: wantsome

If it works for you
I don't buy bags of veggies generally in case I don't use them all. The store is only a walk down the hill anyway so I buy whatever I need for the next day or so's meals.
LMAO at the processed meals, we say it's eating arseholes and eyelids here!

a reply to: CornishCeltGuy

They are taking away our quality of life through with all this austerity garbage, the fact is the Conservatives have killed 100,000s of people by way of there policies and cuts.

NHS days are numbered, people are waiting for all sorts of extended periods of time to receive treatment, even for the likes of cancer.

This nation is going to hell in a handbasket, and should the implications of Brexit go south in any significant manner, given our numbers and limited agricultural production, we might not be able to feed 66 million people.

originally posted by: CornishCeltGuy
a reply to: BrianFlanders
What has socialism got to do with people choosing to eat # unhealthy fast food when fresh food is cheap in the UK and more nutritious?

Why do you care what they eat?

a reply to: andy06shake

I might end up skinnier than I am then!
I keep an optimistic mind though, it's all I can do, I'm just lucky a drug has been found which has stablised my blackouts, drowsy so I can't drive or work on scaffolding but can get away with most power tools, and the old fallback, plastering lol