Are You Now Or Have You Ever Been A Democrat?

opens a whole other can of worms).

Sure does people.



The era of FDR.

originally posted by: neo96

opens a whole other can of worms).

Sure is people.

The era of FDR.

Again, file this away as projection from a racist poster.....

a reply to: Wayfarer

The only thing that get's filed under is cognitive dissonance.

Especially when FDR's party were the biggest bunch of RACISTS during the time period.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Wayfarer

The only thing that get's filed under is cognitive dissonance.

Especially when FDR's party were the biggest bunch of RACISTS during the time period.

You can't have your cake and eat it to.

You literally used a racist person's quote and then with a straight face turn around and say that you in fact aren't racist, everyone else is.

You are putting on a bad circus show....

a reply to: Wayfarer

You sure can't.,

Hitler didn't like jews.

FDR didn't like Blacks.

Beyond blacks weren't being marched off to gas chambers.

WHAT WAS THE GD DIFFERENCE?

You literally used a racist person's quote a

Every time you say the word democrat your quoting RACISTS.

Every time you quote the US constitution your quoting RACISTS.

I've had enough of this snip.

Later.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: dfnj2015

Do you really not get just how totalitarian the US was under FDR.

We got term limits because of him.

You are completely blinded by your partisanship and ideology. Tempering laissez-faire capitalism with socialist public policies is a position that makes sense to me. Most people who say things like "totalitarian the US was under FDR" do not believe government has any role at all in public policies intended to address social injustices. I have found people who have a blind view in favor of laissez-faire capitalism do not believe laissez-faire capitalism has any negative impacts on society that would require government intervention. The thing is we live in an era where we have NO free-markets to wring out the inefficiencies of exorbitant CEO pay. Wages are price fixed:

Pretty grim numbers: www.bls.gov...

More grim numbers on cost of goods and services: www.quandl.com...

The problems with our country are not rocket science. The lobbyists force the politicians to pass laws creating cartels and monopolies in exchange for campaign financing. Money now equals representation in our government. Corporations ARE the government. Wealth inequality is at all time highs. Money is concentrated in so few hands it's really amazing the dollar has any value at all!

At some point we will return back to the idea government has a role in addressing economic tyranny by the billionaires. Marx always said laissez-faire capitalism is followed by communism. This is because unfettered greed would result in government's currency collapsing to nothing in value. Once the currency collapses to nothing in value, people in the breadlines would demand MORE government not less. So at some point, given the anti-government climate of our politics, we will eventually all become comrades again and FDR type politics will return to this country.

a reply to: dfnj2015

Sure not blind to FDR was a BIGOT.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: dfnj2015

Sure not blind to FDR was a BIGOT.

Then why do you use quotes from equally bigoted individuals to back up your own assertions against him. Seems hypocritical in the extreme (or is being a Bigot only bad when its a Democrat?).

a reply to: Wayfarer

Why do you run around calling people racist because they don't agree with you?

Especially when they might quote something has exactly jacksnip to do with ones race.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: Wayfarer

Why do you run around calling people racist because they don't agree with you?

Especially when they might quote something has exactly jacksnip to do with ones race.

This is simple, so I don't know why you aren't grasping this. You are calling FDR a bigot, and using a quote from a man who is a bigot to back that up. If you don't see the ironic hypocrisy in this then I'm not sure anything in this world can show you.

I made a huge mistake in 2008 and voted for Obama.I will never
vote democrat again, I have learned my lesson!

a reply to: Wayfarer

Because FDR was.

Someone made race an issue for some asinine reason ignoring the era of FDR lived in.

originally posted by: mamabeth
I made a huge mistake in 2008 and voted for Obama.I will never
vote democrat again, I have learned my lesson!

I voted for Obama twice.....because I felt he was the best choice considering the competition.


It is pointless, although extremely interesting, to try a judge a presidency while in office or within the recent past. There are many things that will go into that judgement, and some of those things may not become apparent for some time.

Historical judgements of Presidents takes time. Things they set in motion may not have an effect for 20 years, but they are still responsible aftermath of their decisions.

Removed as the original post was removed.

a reply to: dfnj2015

Actually, I think you should look into the Bourbon Democrats. Their particular ideology might be interesting to you. Much of their philosophy is somewhat rooted in Andrew Jackson’s economic mindframe and far more lassez-faire than their then Republican counterparts with using tariffs for protectionism. They were eventually phased out by progressive socialists that pressured Wilson and collapsed under FDR .

originally posted by: Ahabstar
a reply to: Wayfarer

Actually, you are incorrect. Most moderators do not publicly post their political opinions. Those that do tend to be more conservative than others that do.

Thats fair. I should have clarified 'of the moderators I see participate in the political threads'.

a reply to: Ahabstar

Are you saying that the fluidity of politics makes declaring yourself as one or the other is pointless?

I always voted Democrat until Trump started calling out politicians being owned by special interests. To be fair, I wasn’t ever interested in politics until Obamacare started hurting my pockets. So, I listened to Trumps stance on policy compared to Hillary’s and voted Trump. I never had anything against Obama other than that, but was just fed up paying ridiculous amounts of money for health insurance. Paying $500/month for insurance that most likely would never be used pushed me away. Then they started talking about socializing healthcare which sounds even worse because someone has to pay for it and it would be people like myself. So the Dems lost my vote as of right now.

originally posted by: Middleoftheroad
I always voted Democrat until Trump started calling out politicians being owned by special interests. To be fair, I wasn’t ever interested in politics until Obamacare started hurting my pockets. So, I listened to Trumps stance on policy compared to Hillary’s and voted Trump. I never had anything against Obama other than that, but was just fed up paying ridiculous amounts of money for health insurance. Paying $500/month for insurance that most likely would never be used pushed me away. Then they started talking about socializing healthcare which sounds even worse because someone has to pay for it and it would be people like myself. So the Dems lost my vote as of right now.

I take it you would prefer to pay $100 a month for healthcare, which will not cover anything and will drop you as soon as you get seriously injured or sick?

Its easy to say 'why should I pay so much' for healthcare when your healthy. You strike me as an opportunistic voter, and I would advise you to assess the situation on the flip side (assuming you had a pre-existing condition) and needed healthcare you couldn't afford.