Former FBI Attorney LISA PAGE is Spilling The Beans and Coming Clean.

a reply to: BlueAjah

So - we are still left with, how did Wikileaks get Clinton's emails? As of now, it was not the Russians, then?

Correct. It was not the Russians.

On March 16, 2016 WikiLeaks launched a searchable archive for over 30 thousand emails & email attachments sent to and from Hillary Clinton's private email server while she was Secretary of State. The 50,547 pages of documents span from 30 June 2010 to 12 August 2014. 7,570 of the documents were sent by Hillary Clinton. The emails were made available in the form of thousands of PDFs by the US State Department as a result of a Freedom of Information Act request.

https://__._/clinton-emails/

a reply to: BlueAjah

I say we revert back to "Gross Negligence". There are enough investigations going where AT LEAST one will finally do her in.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Still waiting for you to source something.

a reply to: Phage

There are those in this thread and others who are blaming Trump.
They claim that Trump's joke asking them for Hillary's missing emails caused Russia to hack us.
I am glad they now see that this was an absurd claim.

originally posted by: BlueAjah

Rosenstein sure didn't seem his usual cocky self. He usually loves being authoritative in front of cameras. He didn't want to be there.

The weasel words, I noticed, seemed to go both ways. One way to the narrative but he also seemed veeeery careful in making clear in so many words that this didn't have anything to do with "collusion."

He had extra emphasis on his innocent until to proven guilty talking points too that for some reason struck me as odd. It came across to me that he knows this isn't a strong case to say the least.

a reply to: The GUT

Rosenstein knows the whole fiasco will fall apart after Lisa Page's testimony.
This was a last ditch effort to attempt to justify the investigation.

a reply to: BlueAjah

They claim that Trump's joke asking them for Hillary's missing emails caused Russia to hack us.

It is interesting that on the day he said that, attempts to access Clinton campaign email accounts began. I don't think Trump really has any idea what an email server is, or that Clinton's private server was no longer connected to the internet.

But the DNC and DCCC had been attacked months before that.

a reply to: elementalgrove

But but but, he's a LARP!

a reply to: Phage

Exactly. The attacks had been going on long before he said that.

I have no doubts that Russia attempted to hack. They hack everyone. They attempted to hack the RNC too, but their security was sufficient.

I see Russia IP's in the logs of servers that I maintain every day. I ban IP's from Russia every day that are attempting to access things that they should not. I wish I could block the whole country, but there are reasons that we need access to some sources in that country.

I also see access attempts from China, Africa, Egypt, other Asian countries, and others. Russia and China are the two main PIA's.

I think it would be more odd if Russia had never attempted to hack the DNC. Why would they leave them alone but hack the rest of us?

This has nothing to do with Trump. This is SOP for Russia.

originally posted by: Phage
a reply to: BlueAjah

They claim that Trump's joke asking them for Hillary's missing emails caused Russia to hack us.

It is interesting that on the day he said that, attempts to access Clinton campaign email accounts began. I don't think Trump really has any idea what an email server is, or that Clinton's private server was no longer connected to the internet.

But the DNC and DCCC had been attacked months before that.

Trump is the most powerful person on the efing planet. He can tank the NFL with one tweet, he can erase the USFL by himself, and he can get Russia to do his bidding with one simple sentence.

If I were you, I'd be on his side. A guy that powerful could find you.

They attempted to hack the RNC too, but their security was sufficient.

I'm not sure that's correct.

They based that conclusion, in part, on another finding — which they say was also reached with high confidence — that the Russians hacked the Republican National Committee’s computer systems in addition to their attacks on Democratic organizations, but did not release whatever information they gleaned from the Republican networks.

www.nytimes.com...

Perhaps we will learn more as the investigation progresses. Or do you think it should just stop, before more is learned?

This has nothing to do with Trump.

The bipartisan Senate Intelligence Committee would seem to disagree with that assessment.

a reply to: Phage

IF they were able to access RNC information, for which I see no proof, perhaps they found nothing worth releasing?
Were they indicted for accessing the RNC servers?
I would think that even if they did not release anything, if there was proof that they hacked the RNC servers, that would have been included in the indictment.

originally posted by: annoyedpharmacist
a reply to: The GUT

that face, what the hell?? what was that in response to??

That is the face of a slippery corrupted indecent person.. and at it for a very long time. If you'd ask me..

a reply to: BlueAjah

I would think that even if they did not release anything, if there was proof that they hacked the RNC servers, that would have been included in the indictment.

Like I said, perhaps we will learn more as the investigation progresses. Or maybe you're right, the RNC had much better security.

originally posted by: Sillyolme
a reply to: ketsuko

Media is a powerful tool, and I mean that in all possible ways

But the onslaught by Russians on social media to discredit and slander Clinton, that had no effect?
Ennie meenie miney moe. That's how you choose what is relevant and what is not.

That onslaught was not exclusive to Clinton though, and you know it.

You just can't seem to accept the fact that Clinton came off as insincere and unlikable.

a reply to: BlueAjah

Same with the republicans.

a reply to: Sillyolme

The Republicans HAVE been saying that they have new information.

a reply to: TheLead

Funny she thought she was teaching me to think for myself and I grew up to own my own business.
You on the other hand are belittling me because I dont believe in conspiracy theories.
Because I subscribe to a rational point by point method of weighing information. I don't delve into the absurd and try to make a bunch of disparate ideas into a believable alternate story.
I don't string a bunch of bizarre ideas together and try to convince rational people that it makes sense. And then you tell me I jump off bridges because I don't believe the conspiracy theories.
The best minds on the planet scoff at the whole genre I'll have you know

a reply to: Sillyolme

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