The U.S. labor shortage is reaching a critical point

I never believe these stories. They always end up false.

For example I've looked at moving to a couple of states and countries. Gotten in touch with recruiters and there is never a shortage of workers. No one will pay you a bonus to sign on. No company is really in need of workers. No one will provide on the job training. It's all a sham.

This story is a great example...it give you one real example...truck drivers. and one place were all tech people want to work Silicon valley. That's about it peeps. Nothing to see here.

a reply to: schuyler

Half of those jobs aren't filled cause the employers are absurd.

Every day I go by a place with a sign asking for not only a degree but three years experience for a job. It's been an unfilled vacancy as long as I've gone by it. Everyone needs to start somewhere.

Ditch the experience needed crap and train a person starting morons.

a reply to: Puppylove

for once we agree not on the socialist stuff but what the problems are, not the solutions

a reply to: Puppylove

The men who signed the declaration of independence risked everything. These were wealthy men, many who did in fact lose everything.

When the constitution was written only landowners paid taxes.

Not only did our founding father risk everything and many of them lose everything including their lives they set up a system of government that was to be fully funded by the wealthy.

The wealthy have since changed the laws giving themselves more wealth and pushing the burden of supporting the branches of government on the middle class.

The country was at it's best before globalization, when large corporations were heavily taxed and laws stood in the way of corporations becoming too large. These laws were in place to ensure mom and pop could always compete. I time where American made meant the most well built products on earth.

Now we have Walmart and Amazon purching boatloads of cheap merchandise made in third world nations, we used to call these factories sweat shops, at prices so low that mom and pop can no longer compete.

Corporations have taken over. Employees are merely an expenditure and nothing but corporate profits matter to anyone at the top.

These men have nothing in common with our founding fathers. And the great document, constitution, is seen as a nuisance to those who push for globalization.

a reply to: Isurrender73

Aware of all that. Now how can we without bloodshed push the reset button and make sure it sticks this time?

a reply to: starviego

Waz yeah my local station had a story about a Maryland crab picnicking company that was crying because they did not win a gov lottery that would give them 50 work visas to go get migrants from Mexico to come pick the crabmeat for canning boo th too. They saying they going to be shutting down this season for lack of migrant workers but vowed to be back next season. But guess what they ran no ads in local papers or asked UNEMPLOYMENT office to send them some bodies or even call a temp service .The workers are out there they just want to pay slave wages which is why they only want Mexicans

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: Isurrender73

Aware of all that. Now how can we without bloodshed push the reset button and make sure it sticks this time?

An act of God? I have many ideas on how to fix the problems. But not so many answers on how to enact such ideas.

Like the declaration of independence says, "mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed".

a reply to: Bluntone22

Why, get rid of inflation of course.

originally posted by: ClovenSky
a reply to: Bluntone22

Why, get rid of inflation of course.

It's impossible to eliminate of inflation as long as one or both of these factors are allowed.

As long as Usury is allowed inflation will be unavoidable.

As long as there is no limit on the amout of currency one can hoard inflation is unavoidable.

Both of these situation necessitate the printing of more currency, which devalues the currency and causes inflation.

Currency is only a useful tool if it continues to move through society. As long as the wealthy are allowed to hoard the tool the machine will break.

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: schuyler

Half of those jobs aren't filled cause the employers are absurd.

Every day I go by a place with a sign asking for not only a degree but three years experience for a job. It's been an unfilled vacancy as long as I've gone by it. Everyone needs to start somewhere.

Ditch the experience needed crap and train a person starting morons.

Such an attitude is a guaranteed "Do Not Hire Me" sign around your neck. It's hard enough to get rid of employees with attitude after you hire them. Best not to hire them in the first place. Let them grow up somewhere else.

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: toysforadults
a reply to: Bluntone22

Oh so you are justfying hiring 3rd world immigrant slave labor because people want to gwt paid for what you guys have already admitted is hard work

I see

No sorry. That is not a justification to pay someone low wages.

I don't justify anything it's just reality.
Look in the mirror.
The clothes you are wearing have tags in them.
Where were they made?
The American people with their lust for material items has does this starting in the 50s.
We buy the cheapest priced items without regard.
If you have an issue with the state of world trade and economics talk to your grandparents.

We also buy way more of it than we need. People bitch about how their money doesn't go as far as it did for your parents or grandparents. Your grandparents weren't getting a new phone every 2 years. They bought a lot less junk. Look around your place at all the crap you don't need. It's mind-boggling.

a reply to: Isurrender73

The men who signed the declaration of independence risked everything. These were wealthy men, many who did in fact lose everything.

When the constitution was written only landowners paid taxes.

Not only did our founding father risk everything and many of them lose everything including their lives they set up a system of government that was to be fully funded by the wealthy.

hmm interesting but they also didn't set it up to bail people/ business's out if they fail, they set it up to protect the general welfare meaning protection and court services for contract enforcement and other criminality like violence

So where are the jobs?

Unless you are an uber talented Tech person in Silicon Valley. Truck Driver or Registered Nurse. There are no job shortages.

a reply to: toysforadults

Yes I agree. Corporate welfare is unacceptable.

a reply to: schuyler

You misunderstand. It's not a job I want or am looking for. It's used as an example of absurdity. Like the way people have this silly expectation of only having procedures done by doctors that have already done it 1000's of times. It's just stupid and illogical.

If everyone wants three years experience, then there's no where for anyone to get that three years experience. Is like these places failed at basic logic and reasoning. Nothing better than working for companies where they are clearly run by barely functional morons.

originally posted by: Isurrender73

originally posted by: ClovenSky
a reply to: Bluntone22

Why, get rid of inflation of course.

It's impossible to eliminate of inflation as long as one or both of these factors are allowed.

As long as Usury is allowed inflation will be unavoidable.

As long as there is no limit on the amout of currency one can hoard inflation is unavoidable.

Both of these situation necessitate the printing of more currency, which devalues the currency and causes inflation.

Currency is only a useful tool if it continues to move through society. As long as the wealthy are allowed to hoard the tool the machine will break.

Can you walk me through your reasoning on how usury CAUSES inflation & how hording CAUSES inflation please?

There is one one thing that causes inflation across all classes of assets at the same time. Care to venture a guess?

a reply to: ClovenSky

yeah printing money and raising taxes are the 2 biggest causes of inflation currently

a reply to: ClovenSky

If you don't understand you can research for yourself. It's basic math.

a reply to: ClovenSky

Ugh, hoarding causing it is simple. The more money that leaves circulation the less money is out there for people to make ends meet. As a result more funds are printed to fill this void, which causes everyone to have more money for a short bit. Then prices rise to take advantage of this new influx of cash, which like the last gets hoarded overseas creating the same void, which is then filled with printed money, wash and repeat. Or well some more complex version of this, as real economics has more variables.

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: schuyler

If everyone wants three years experience, then there's no where for anyone to get that three years experience. Is like these places failed at basic logic and reasoning. Nothing better than working for companies where they are clearly run by barely functional morons.

And that is not an attitude to be tolerated. Fact is there are more job openings than candidates. That the profile doesn't fit your own experience or qualifications doesn't change that. You're cherry picking because you see that job all the time. Obviously, the employer is either patient or does not really care if he fills the job. It is not true that "everyone" wants three years of experience. My major point is that the job openings do not match the job seekers, so we're actually not in disagreement on that. We have way too many unqualified people seeking jobs and way too many openings seeking qualified people who do not exist. If I want to hire a mining geologist, and English major is not going to be trainable to do that job in any reasonable amount of time. Well-paying jobs for people educated in any scientific, engineering, or medical field are plentiful. Job seekers who are qualified for little more than the minimum wage are also plentiful. The conclusion here is that our overall workforce is not sufficiently well educated to perform in the jobs we need filled. That's NOT the employers' fault. Whether we blame the educational system itself or the unfortunate fact that the average IQ really is 100, I don't know. I do know that an average IQ of 100 is not going to be able to fill a position for a chemical engineer.

But, living in the fiction that "equality of opportunity equals equality of achievement," every person with an IQ of 100 figures it must be someone else's fault he doesn't have a well-paying job. It doesn't enter into his mind that he may be too stupid to hack it.