Communism Killed 100 Million People in 20th Century. Underestimate no doubt

a reply to: ketsuko

Well, no, because I am not a communist, which I have repeated on here millions of times.

Is communism a utopic collectivist ideal? yes, which is why anarchists have always been enemies of communists/communism

but, that being said, the majority of people have this Americanised red-scare version of Communism that they repeat like the herd they are.

and are constantly tossing around ignorant statements such as "The State has the power" etc

Most people do not even know what true communism is.

To borrow a line from elsewhere ...

Ideas don't kill people ... people kill people.

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Human beings in general have slaughtered each other en masse since the dawn of time. Millions upon millions have died in countless wars so much so that it appears we could be due.....for another "population correction"

a reply to: Ohanka

Except racism has killed people that is why Nazi Germany failed. Here comes America because of KKK.

a reply to: alldaylong

is that your Communist cop out ''Bombs and bullets killed more'' ?,,lets blaim inanimate objects, not the Communists

a reply to: ozb1777

Let's blame the Christians for killing everyone in the name of "God" and converting people to their religion or death...

By that account, Christians are worse than "Communists" so people should denounce "God"

how many deaths is this "God" Responsible for? for that matter, how many deaths is any God/Gods/Goddess/Goddesses responsible for...

a reply to: XAnarchistX

No communism still killed more partly because there was more people. Remember we didn't get a billion people on the planet until 1800s.

So even tragedies killed thousands instead of hundreds of thousands, the more people the more people you can lose. Then the there's the fact that Moa and Stalin were even more cruel then imagined.

a reply to: dragonridr

If you believe in the religion, God/Gods/Goddess/Goddesses are responsible for all deaths, and continue to be responsible for them

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: ketsuko

You do understand that Communist ideology is the abolishment of the State...

Communism calls for the abolishment of State, Government, Class, Monetary systems etc

Which is why it will never work. As has been proven time and time again, someone ALWAYS WANTS TO BE THE RULER. Then people start dying in the name of sustaining the communism.

a reply to: XAnarchistX

That's because you don't listen.

I get your candyland version of communism which is the Monty Python version, but even in the Monty Python version, there was a government of sorts.



People do not perfectly work for everyone else and perfectly share without some rules and boundaries imposed on the whole, and those rules and boundaries are toothless without some manner of enforcement. That is your government.

Even the smallest human social units - families - have rules, boundaries, and enforcement in order to be functional.

about Stalin impudent and disgusting lie. this Trotsky (Bronstein) killed from 1917 to 1929 more than 60,000,000 Russian goyim. photos of the crimes of the regime of the Trotsky (American citizen) after decades were allegedly given for the atrocities of Stalin and Hitler. under the guise of fighting bloody Communists (in fact in a cooperative), Russia underwent international intervention by the troops of the United States of England and other countries. just as now the United States of America, England, Israel is tormenting Syria in battle with terrorists, and in fact together with them they kill the goyim of Syria

It is interesting how fascism and communism are at exact opposite ends of the political spectrum, but leaders of these regimes use the exact same methods to achieve their goals. Examples could include control of media, violence, intimidation, propaganda extreme nationalism ... etc.

Life under both these types of regimes is the same for the people in these societies even though their leaders are at exact opposite extreme ends of the political spectrum.

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: 727Sky

Not a Commie but if you are gonna do a numbers game, then you have to consider capitalism when the action of a single man and his want for rubber killed an estimated 10 mil in five yrs.

The Man Who Killed 10 Million People & Personified Everything That Is Wrong With Colonialism
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This was just one geographical area on one continent, done in the name of capitalism, so yes commies have a lot to answer for, but so do the Laissez-faire capitalist.

This sort of thing is not what folks would rather have than the madness that has been an historical feature of Red states. Both are equal in madness. And it doesn't need to be either/or. Even at this, a strange feature of communist praxis has been to kill and enslave their owe countrymen and tribe. They really wrote the book on mass starvation as a political and purging tool. In this case the "party" if not the man confiscating privet land and even after the results were demonstrable, "intellectuals" in the west presented the great communist minds as alternatives to all options and broadened the definitions to include all things as opposition to the unification of the workers of the world.

a reply to: 727Sky

i think that people fed propaganda in any country arnt supposed to be aware of the fact ther being manipulated because the it wouldnt work. with that in mind if u take a baby born in the valleys of the kush mountains and raise in south london he would only become wot he knows . a product of his eviroment.. iv not got the awnser for this problem but mabey a insight from a non biased opinion on how americas slogan of equal oppentunity is not just about finacial or political but moraly humain. im a uk citizen watching the worl fall apart from a distance in silence .........

originally posted by: Logarock

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: 727Sky

uk citizen reply...... They really wrote the book on mass starvation as a political and purging tool.


during the great push west to kind the populations mind off ov a second cival war or insurgency like jesse james at that time to purge the native population from a certain area,wich at the time was legally awarded to native americans by the prseident was then slaughted for mining gold.... to stop a native american insurgency we brought the bison buffalo ther main food source to the brink of extinction so know ur history before talking of things that are more complex then our simple replys

a reply to: Logarock
I agree somewhat, Mao was as is Kim family dynasty were incompetent in their great leap forward, and their ham fisted style of leadership killed millions through starvation, however Polpot was just being genocidal, the subtle difference would be intent...yeah I know the outcome, meant very little to the victims.. speaking of which, Vietnam and Cuba didn't have those problems after the end of hostilities, although life would suck in comparison to the west.

a reply to: ketsuko

No, you don't listen, communism has never been implemented, it would be one thing if your debate was 'communism will never work' but your (and many) arguments are based on some red-scare Americanised propaganda of "totalitarian state power" when communism is the abolishment of State.



and again, I am not a communist

a reply to: 727Sky

was it really communism or was it in reality just some really #in sick people !
that just so happened to assign to communism as an ideology

Peaceful monk

Buddha

Buddha pest -distraction from Jesus

Budapest.

I went to Thailand. They put drinks on all the Buddha's like Buddha drinks from it. I measured the liquid in the glasses. The liquid never moved! He isn't taking their offerings to Buddha. They sell gold Buddha temples. I saw a yard covered with gold Buddha temples for sale so people could put in their front yard. Big Buddha on the hill seen for miles....covered in gold.

And yet Buddha taught a life to be devoted apart from prideful possession gathering. Spiritual unity of the people. Pure idiocy to make the Buddha statues anything other than white marble rather than gold considering what Buddha taught.