Communism Killed 100 Million People in 20th Century. Underestimate no doubt

a reply to: Annee

What about House chamber control? How often has that changed parties recently?

a reply to: ketsuko

The Gun boat diplomacy, forcing nations to fork over their agro business to American private enterprises or else!!.. not the local social reforms..eg don't let lil Timmy replace daddy at the end of his shift in the coal mines.

a reply to: 727Sky

Great reminder 727

Communism and socialism are things to defeat/crush, not to spectate or debate with. And unlike many of the spineless EU nations, are never something you offer seats in government or even government jobs to

...and look at Venezuela. The socialist sections of their military (loyal to their illegitimate dictator) hijack trucks of water, force Citizens to drive around and deliver water to regime loyalists.

Why haven't we "deposed" (aka hanged) Maduro yet? Of course Venezuela isn't our problem, but the United States should make it a point to continue fighting the war against communism/socialism around the world. Send in the US Marines!

How many died in the name of capitalism and imperialism? How many African slaves and Native Americans in the new world, how many Indians in India, how many Aborigines in Australia? How many Africans in Africa? How about all the middle easterners that have been droned and bombed for the last 30 years?

a reply to: Metallicus

Well, no, no it is not...

Learn about Communist ideology and not the Red-scare Americanised brainwashing they teach you

*not a communist*

a reply to: ketsuko

I wonder if it even ever got that far - for the good of the state?

I doubt most communist leaders of major communist countries were thinking like that; though some may have in smaller countries.

Just to balance this "number" with the numbers killed by capitalism I'll offer...

guerrillaontologies.com...

The above article is not only a listing of Capitalist Killings but a factual critique of the major sources tallying up Communist Killings.

Religion has killed more than communism that has killed more than socialism that has killed more than capitalism that has killed more than. . . . . .


Instead of adding up "kills" like a "John Wick" movie, how about we focus on what system offers the most sustainable freedoms!

originally posted by: nOraKat
a reply to: ketsuko

I wonder if it even ever got that far - for the good of the state?

I doubt most communist leaders of major communist countries were thinking like that; though some may have in smaller countries.

The government *is* the state. The state is not the people. The people exist merely to service the state.

I wonder where you got all your priorities wrong?

The people will be cared for only inasmuch as they are needed to service the state. This can be seen in Ezekial Emmanual's bell curve equation that health care expenditures should follow, for example, which prioritized the young, healthy "producers" over the very young and very old who are either living before their usefulness to the state or after their usefulness to it can be seen as an example.

originally posted by: Kkintekk
a reply to: 727Sky


I bet the article was written by Imperialism friends …. I live in Norway and the whole Scandinavia is under the same rules AKA Social Democratic “communism to you”. Ever heard of any Scandinavian country caused wars, famine, god forbids killing and devastating other countries since the Viking time?


Where, Imperialism doing their stupid stuff for at least 1500 years till now (start with the Britain).

It seems that the site this OP is quoting is something called The Epoch Times, which, according to media bias is "privately held" (a capitalist equity company most likely) ....

would not comment on how The Epoch Times is funded because he says “the owners prefer to remain private,”

.....

The Epoch Times is founded by John Tang and a group of Chinese-American Falun Gong practitioners.

So we have capitalists (secret) and religion.

Over all they rate The Epoch Times:

Overall, we rate The Epoch Times Right-Center Biased and high for factual reporting about USA news, and biased regarding news about China.

mediabiasfactcheck.com...

It seems fairly clear that there is an Anti-China agenda here - to what extent it's hard to see.

originally posted by: dragonridr

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: 727Sky

Not a Commie but if you are gonna do a numbers game, then you have to consider capitalism when the action of a single man and his want for rubber killed an estimated 10 mil in five yrs.

The Man Who Killed 10 Million People & Personified Everything That Is Wrong With Colonialism
thelogicalindian.com...=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s

This was just one geographical area on one continent, done in the name of capitalism, so yes commies have a lot to answer for, but so do the Laissez-faire capitalist.

Thats not capitalism that is imperialism where a king owns the country. For example even in Britain today money is payed to the crown.

And this isn't the first time imperialism cost deaths. Problem is their is different forms and they dont have a common thread other then a monarch os in charge. Monarchys are only as good as the king in charge. Some were great others caused suffering.

Imperialism is the cruel offspring of Capitalism. They are one and the same.

a reply to: ketsuko

You do understand that Communist ideology is the abolishment of the State...

Communism calls for the abolishment of State, Government, Class, Monetary systems etc

We will never truly know how many people died in communist China, Soviet Union and all the smaller communist countries. It's mind boggling.

originally posted by: 727Sky

originally posted by: Spider879
a reply to: 727Sky

Not a Commie but if you are gonna do a numbers game, then you have to consider capitalism when the action of a single man and his want for rubber killed an estimated 10 mil in five yrs.

The Man Who Killed 10 Million People & Personified Everything That Is Wrong With Colonialism
thelogicalindian.com...=https://www.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s

This was just one geographical area on one continent, done in the name of capitalism, so yes commies have a lot to answer for, but so do the Laissez-faire capitalist.

*****Colonialism is one of history’s greatest evils. It decimated local populations, enslaved millions, destroyed cultures, created divisions and fissures which, years later, exploded into civil wars, partitions, and economic chaos.*****

And a direct result of Capitalism's need for endless resources and ever expanding markets. You cannot separate the two.

originally posted by: 727Sky
OK how about an elected Communist leader and his government.. I am speaking of China present day.

Muslims forced to drink alcohol and eat pork in China’s ‘re-education’ camps, former inmate claims
Muslims were detained for re-education by China‘s government and made to eat pork and drink alcohol, according to a former internment camp inmate.

Omir Bekali, one among perhaps a million people reportedly arrested and held in mass re-education camps, said he was detained without trial or access to a lawyer and forced to disavow his beliefs while praising the Communist Party.

Mr Bekali, a Kazakh citizen, said he contemplated suicide after 20 days in the facility – which itself followed seven months in a prison.

Since spring last year authorities in Xinjiang region have confined tens or even hundreds of thousands of Muslims in the camps, including some foreign nationals. One estimate put the figure at a million or more.

A US commission called it the “the largest mass incarceration of a minority population in the world today” while a leading historian called it “cultural cleansing”.

I wonder how long before people in the west go to reeducation camps before prison ? Rumblings in Europe already, No ? Gotta be careful of what you say or be declared a person who produces hate speech and who must be dealt with...

China has everyone beat in the control of actions and thought ...they even rate their citizens with a score. Gotta love their ways of doing things because there is no one to stop them..

Only party members have a say.

originally posted by: Kkintekk
a reply to: Lab4Us



I guess you have forgotten Red scare and McCarthyism ………


Little brush up will help….

Red scare…. en.wikipedia.org...

McCarthyism.... AKA Red scare version 2..... en.wikipedia.org...




Are you people wishing these nasty things happen again..?

You people? The Constitutionalists? Pretty sure Constitutionalists would be against Communism and Socialism and not for the debacles you provided. Examples not really needed as I went to school before the Socialist brain washing began, when we actually had to learn things. Constitutionalists generally believe in less government and the freedoms provided in the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights (as written, not as interpreted by liberal judges).

originally posted by: FyreByrd
Just to balance this "number" with the numbers killed by capitalism I'll offer...

guerrillaontologies.com...

The above article is not only a listing of Capitalist Killings but a factual critique of the major sources tallying up Communist Killings.

The writer of that site must be really limber for all the streeeeeeetching and reeeeeaaaching that was done.

What about gods and religious freedoms an expressions? It right behind the mosquito.

Communism sounds like a great idea, but it terrible at theory.

a reply to: conspiracy nut

Chinese Cultural Revolution & Great Leap Forward = minimum low end estimate 30 million, common estimates 80 million, high end estimates 120 million deaths - majority starved to death, minority persecuted and tortured to death (estimates between 500k and 10 million).

In only 4 years of Great Leap and of Cultural Revolution, 14 years combined.

Russian Famine 1921-1922 - estimated 5 million deaths by starvation.
Ukrainian (Russian) Famine 1931-32- minimum estimate 6 million, high end estimate 8 million deaths by starvation.

In only 4 years.

The facts do not support Marxist ideologies - Socialism or Communism. They ignore many human and economic principles and laws. They also ignore Pareto Distribution which has been observed in nature as a normalcy.

Venezuela is not just crumbling due to debt load, their system is flawed. Watch the Vice video covering how the gov't removed the productive people from the state owned oil company and then the US gas companies started rejecting shipments for not meeting contracted quality requirements.

originally posted by: XAnarchistX
a reply to: ketsuko

You do understand that Communist ideology is the abolishment of the State...

Communism calls for the abolishment of State, Government, Class, Monetary systems etc

Yes, which is why your version of communsim is a unicorn. I can never, ever exist in reality. Have fun in your fantasy realms though.