J10 Unclassified (PLAFF releases info for first time)

Originally posted by RichardPrice

Originally posted by Hockeyguy567

The Chinese don't have the technology to compete with the US, yet.

And the Abrams is the best tank in the world.

[edit on 21-2-2005 by Hockeyguy567]

Uhmm the ChallengerII is generally accepted as the best Main Battle Tank in the world.

Actually no, it's usually a toss up between the Abrams and the Leo II, but I would go with Abrams because it has a better FCS.

this thread is not about tanks... please drop it... thank you

The pro-merrikan stuff is strong on some people

Let's see. Maybe the J-10 can engage "only" 4 targets at once because it can only carry 4 active radar-homing missiles, unlike the 6 in the F-14? Well, the Gripen can too carry 4 ARH missile only, but it will give the F-15C a run for its money at BVR and WVR combat. Does this make the Gripen worst than the Eagle? NO.

Quit being blind fanboys.

F-22s can carry only 6 missles,and Su-27s can carry 8 missles,so in conclusion Su-27s are better than F-22s

Originally posted by W4rl0rD
F-22s can carry only 6 missles,and Su-27s can carry 8 missles,so in conclusion Su-27s are better than F-22s

I HOPE by the smiley at the end of that post you are saying that as a joke. Su-27 would be at the bottom of the ocean with ALL 8 missles still attached if it went up against the F22. I could carry 20 missiles, but if I cant see my target, let alone fire on it, they may as well be 20 wind chimes.

Originally posted by DeathAngel BR
The pro-merrikan stuff is strong on some people

Let's see. Maybe the J-10 can engage "only" 4 targets at once because it can only carry 4 active radar-homing missiles, unlike the 6 in the F-14? Well, the Gripen can too carry 4 ARH missile only, but it will give the F-15C a run for its money at BVR and WVR combat. Does this make the Gripen worst than the Eagle? NO.

Quit being blind fanboys.

Who is counting missiles? As best as I can read, you are the first to make any refference to the quantity of missles carried vs capability.

And please whats with the "pro-merrikan" remark? Are you trying to say "Pro-American"? That a sad attempt at an insult against anothers national origin? I fail to find any reply on this thread that insults anothers country using distastefull refferences.

Last I recall we are comparing fighter planes, not insulting other posters countries. Deathangel, could you please keep this thread about the planes and not your personal agenda to slander AMERICANS? Your anti American agenda is not for this forum about aircraft. Please take it elswhere.

The J-10 is not the all great aircraft you are saying its. It was developed with help from scientists and engineers from the Israeli Lavi project back in the 80s. China also purchased a F-16 from Pakistan. It is a fighter coming out behind the times. In not too long the 5th generation F-35 will be coming out.

Originally posted by skippytjc

Originally posted by DeathAngel BR
The pro-merrikan stuff is strong on some people

Let's see. Maybe the J-10 can engage "only" 4 targets at once because it can only carry 4 active radar-homing missiles, unlike the 6 in the F-14? Well, the Gripen can too carry 4 ARH missile only, but it will give the F-15C a run for its money at BVR and WVR combat. Does this make the Gripen worst than the Eagle? NO.

Quit being blind fanboys.

Who is counting missiles? As best as I can read, you are the first to make any refference to the quantity of missles carried vs capability.

And please whats with the "pro-merrikan" remark? Are you trying to say "Pro-American"? That a sad attempt at an insult against anothers national origin? I fail to find any reply on this thread that insults anothers country using distastefull refferences.

Last I recall we are comparing fighter planes, not insulting other posters countries. Deathangel, could you please keep this thread about the planes and not your personal agenda to slander AMERICANS? Your anti American agenda is not for this forum about aircraft. Please take it elswhere.

LMAO.

Obviously you completely ignored all the pro-merrikan posts. Yes, merrikans right here are saying EXACTLY this: "F-14 can carry 6 Phoenix missiles!!!11! so it's betterer than that chinese junk!!11!" or "F-15C can carry 8 AMRAAMs!!!1! so it pwnz that chinese piece of crap!!!11"

Puh-leese. It's a known fact that (pro-)merrikans will say their aircrafts own anything others countries can come up with. If the J-10 really does use RAM, then it's time for all the anti-everything merrikans drop those ghey "our aircrafts are betterer" lines.


EDIT: Now, how come I am anti-USA and those who posted anti-chinese crap are not... anti-chinese? Funny.

[edit on 23/2/2005 by DeathAngel BR]

Originally posted by skippytjc
Who is counting missiles? As best as I can read, you are the first to make any refference to the quantity of missles carried vs capability.

And please whats with the "pro-merrikan" remark? Are you trying to say "Pro-American"? That a sad attempt at an insult against anothers national origin? I fail to find any reply on this thread that insults anothers country using distastefull refferences.

Last I recall we are comparing fighter planes, not insulting other posters countries. Deathangel, could you please keep this thread about the planes and not your personal agenda to slander AMERICANS? Your anti American agenda is not for this forum about aircraft. Please take it elswhere.

Your pro-american aganeda is quite "sad" too.. The statements yo umake
"at the bottom of the Sea with all missiles attached"
etc etc.. are more insulting than "merrikkan"..please note and refrain from such statements and the "insulting" you observe will also stop..

Originally posted by Daedalus3

Originally posted by skippytjc
Who is counting missiles? As best as I can read, you are the first to make any refference to the quantity of missles carried vs capability.

And please whats with the "pro-merrikan" remark? Are you trying to say "Pro-American"? That a sad attempt at an insult against anothers national origin? I fail to find any reply on this thread that insults anothers country using distastefull refferences.

Last I recall we are comparing fighter planes, not insulting other posters countries. Deathangel, could you please keep this thread about the planes and not your personal agenda to slander AMERICANS? Your anti American agenda is not for this forum about aircraft. Please take it elswhere.

Your pro-american aganeda is quite "sad" too.. The statements yo umake
"at the bottom of the Sea with all missiles attached"
etc etc.. are more insulting than "merrikkan"..please note and refrain from such statements and the "insulting" you observe will also stop..

You may add Brazil and Ukraine to that sig of yours.

I find the term "merrikan" or however you choose to spell it, a deliberate attempt at an insult, with the intent to personally insult me. Personal or hateful remarks are against the TOS of this website. Making points about a nations aircraft, no matter how abrupt, is not an insult to a person and you guys clearly have a hard time seeing the difference and have chosen to make things personal.

You guys clearly have an personal agenda to insult Americans due to your jealousy over the US's and other nations superior aircraft.

The next author to post a reply on this thread making any derogatory statements with the intent to insult will get reported as a personal attack against me and my fellow Americans. Your "merrikans" remark isn’t any better than any other racial slur and I take it as such. You are warned.


Oh, and BTW: My wife is Chinese, my son is half Chinese, and her entire family is of course, Chinese. And that still doesn’t change the fact that the J10 is totally incapable of competing with most of Russia's and the West’s fighters.

Its a fair copy of an F16. That’s it. Nothing more.




[edit on 23-2-2005 by skippytjc]

Originally posted by skippytjc-stupid-merrikan
I find the term "merrikan" or however you choose to spell it, a deliberate attempt at an insult, with the intent to personally insult me. Personal or hateful remarks are against the TOS of this website. Making points about a nations aircraft, no matter how abrupt, is not an insult to a person and you guys clearly have a hard time seeing the difference and have chosen to make things personal.

LMAO.

Originally posted by skippytjc-stupid-merrikan
You guys clearly have an personal agenda to insult Americans due to your jealousy over the US's and other nations superior aircraft.

What? Who the # is jealous of sucky US? You're on crack.
I rest my case. Stupid merrikan.

Originally posted by skippytjc-stupid-merrikan
The next author to post a reply on this thread making any derogatory statements with the intent to insult will get reported as a personal attack against me and my fellow Americans. Your "merrikans" remark isn’t any better than any other racial slur and I take it as such. You are warned.

Same to you, stupid merrikan.

That's what you'll be called from now on.

Originally posted by skippytjc-stupid-merrikan
Oh, and BTW: My wife is Chinese, my son is half Chinese, and her entire family is of course, Chinese.

They should be ashamed of you.

Originally posted by skippytjc-stupid-merrikan
And that still doesn’t change the fact that the J10 is totally incapable of competing with most of Russia's and the West’s fighters.

Its a fair copy of an F16. That’s it. Nothing more.

Ignorance is truely bliss.

So I say the F-22 is a piece of junk compared to the Su35, although it can supercruise and has TVC.

You're an idiot.




I just HAD to post this pic:



[edit on 23/2/2005 by DeathAngel BR]

You may add Brazil and Ukraine to that sig of yours.

That is absolutely correct, Russia, India, China and Brazil are looking into becoming an alliance much like NATO, Ukraine and other eastern block countries might join them too.

The Phoenix is indeed retired, this was posted on www.globalsecurity.org

2004
February 25 – Fighter Squadrons VF-11 and VF-143, flying F-14B Tomcats, launched from USS George Washington's (CVN 73) flight deck during a routine deployment supporting Operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom to conduct an historic missile shoot. The Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 7 aircraft fired 17 live Phoenix missiles onto a range over the Arabian Sea in two separate waves.

July 15 – Last AIM-54 was shot by VF-213 Cag-8; Pilot- LCDR Mark Tankersley and RIO- LTJG Scott Timmester.

Source

Sorry, the F-14D will retire soon, the Phoenix is already retired.

The J-14 looks much more impressing than this Lavi clone, even if the J-10 is a Lavi clone, it's a clone of Israeli technology, the country that makes excellent weapons and equipment.

Originally posted by DeathAngel BR

You're an idiot.

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[edit on 23-2-2005 by skippytjc]

I really wish that people would stop being so abusive to each other...

Originally posted by skippytjc-stupid-merrikan

Originally posted by DeathAngel BR

You're an idiot.

TOS:

"2.) You will not behave in an abusive and/or hateful manner, and will not harass, threaten, nor attack anyone.

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[edit on 23-2-2005 by skippytjc]

Hmmmm you're still an idiot.

Keep going. Each instance is one step closer to a ban for you Gabriel

You're closer to getting skull #ed than me ever getting banned, stupid merrikan. I'm not afraid of you, nor is anyone if that's what you think. Moron.

LOL. Keep going

And the point on posting that sig pic of mine is?

You proved to everyone you're completely retarded already, no need to keep demonstrating how #ed up you are, stupid merrikan.