Not another imigration thread!!!!

a reply to: Alien Abduct

We should make working in Mexico more profitable than working the US then all the illegals will leave voluntarily or not come at all.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
We already know what is not working, and that’s what we are doing now. How about what you think WILL work?

This was not directed at me but I have an idea. Instead of looking at all these immigrants as criminals why not make it easier for them to be in the States legally? Have them in "provisionally". Then process them without all this rancor.

If we do that without locking down the border tighter than a horses ass in fly season then it won’t work.

We can give every illegal in this country amnesty but if we don’t lock down the border we will have the same problem we have today in just a few years.

Locking down the border is a pipe dream. The cost severely outweighs the benefit. It's not going to happen...even under Trump. So be proactive. Take these people as they come and allow them temporary status. Amnesty only works for those already in the country. I say do it. Then have an avenue to what I've said above. If you don't treat these people as criminals they will be more apt to declare themselves. Problem solved. And yes I know there will be criminals that won't identify themselves. So what. Same as now BUT the mass majority will.

a reply to: intrepid

not a pipe dream

power to the people

give texans the right and we will secure our border within weeks.

all with volunteers if necessary

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: JoshuaCox
a reply to: network dude

Please define a criminal??

Criminal- someone who breaks laws.

Laws- rules set by a countries people to fix problems that were important enough to warrant official action.

Those are the definitions as I understand them, feel free to post what you think they mean, and we might find out why you think like you do.

ha!
LOL

Perhaps you should study a bit

I think you are tracking the source of much confusion now.

so you have a good supply of hot air, and very little stored in the integrity department?

I studied, you insinuated I was wrong. Explain how, or you could admit you were just blowing smoke out your ass.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
We already know what is not working, and that’s what we are doing now. How about what you think WILL work?

This was not directed at me but I have an idea. Instead of looking at all these immigrants as criminals why not make it easier for them to be in the States legally? Have them in "provisionally". Then process them without all this rancor.

If we do that without locking down the border tighter than a horses ass in fly season then it won’t work.

We can give every illegal in this country amnesty but if we don’t lock down the border we will have the same problem we have today in just a few years.

Locking down the border is a pipe dream. The cost severely outweighs the benefit. It's not going to happen...even under Trump. So be proactive. Take these people as they come and allow them temporary status. Amnesty only works for those already in the country. I say do it. Then have an avenue to what I've said above. If you don't treat these people as criminals they will be more apt to declare themselves. Problem solved. And yes I know there will be criminals that won't identify themselves. So what. Same as now BUT the mass majority will.

Does Canada have open borders?

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Alien Abduct

Why do anything at all. We should embrace the immigrants and make them citizens. It will grow the economy. We are all from the same planet.

Do you really believe that? Think about it. You open the border and a mass of people stream across. What then? Do they just stand there happy they made it? You could offer them a place in your home to sleep and you can feed them but that probably doesn't fit your model. We could insist that the government to do that but where are the resources going to come from to house, feed and clothes hundreds of thousands of people?

Our money and effort is better spent to fix Mexico. Who knows, life could get so good there in a few years, Americans will be trying to sneak across the border into Mexico.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
We already know what is not working, and that’s what we are doing now. How about what you think WILL work?

This was not directed at me but I have an idea. Instead of looking at all these immigrants as criminals why not make it easier for them to be in the States legally? Have them in "provisionally". Then process them without all this rancor.

If we do that without locking down the border tighter than a horses ass in fly season then it won’t work.

We can give every illegal in this country amnesty but if we don’t lock down the border we will have the same problem we have today in just a few years.

Locking down the border is a pipe dream. The cost severely outweighs the benefit. It's not going to happen...even under Trump. So be proactive. Take these people as they come and allow them temporary status. Amnesty only works for those already in the country. I say do it. Then have an avenue to what I've said above. If you don't treat these people as criminals they will be more apt to declare themselves. Problem solved. And yes I know there will be criminals that won't identify themselves. So what. Same as now BUT the mass majority will.

Does Canada have open borders?

To the States, yes. You better have your passport if you want to go home though.

a reply to: howtonhawky

Right, so the southern border states would pick up the cost for the nation, or refuse to.

Maybe that's why the Supreme Court made it a federal function.

originally posted by: LogicalGraphitti


Our money and effort is better spent to fix Mexico. Who knows, life could get so good there in a few years, Americans will be trying to sneak across the border into Mexico.

I think they have some security on their side as well. I don't believe Mexico has open borders.

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: howtonhawky

Right, so the southern border states would pick up the cost for the nation, or refuse to.

Maybe that's why the Supreme Court made it a federal function.

that is a nonsensical reason to submit ones power to the feds

the supreme court ignored the constitution

i would contribute to texas border fund and help with security in trade for less income tax.

making excuses for the nwo

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
We already know what is not working, and that’s what we are doing now. How about what you think WILL work?

This was not directed at me but I have an idea. Instead of looking at all these immigrants as criminals why not make it easier for them to be in the States legally? Have them in "provisionally". Then process them without all this rancor.

If we do that without locking down the border tighter than a horses ass in fly season then it won’t work.

We can give every illegal in this country amnesty but if we don’t lock down the border we will have the same problem we have today in just a few years.

Locking down the border is a pipe dream. The cost severely outweighs the benefit. It's not going to happen...even under Trump. So be proactive. Take these people as they come and allow them temporary status. Amnesty only works for those already in the country. I say do it. Then have an avenue to what I've said above. If you don't treat these people as criminals they will be more apt to declare themselves. Problem solved. And yes I know there will be criminals that won't identify themselves. So what. Same as now BUT the mass majority will.

Does Canada have open borders?

To the States, yes. You better have your passport if you want to go home though.

so a van load of terrorists can just drive through? I thought they checked for drugs and guns and junk.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
We already know what is not working, and that’s what we are doing now. How about what you think WILL work?

This was not directed at me but I have an idea. Instead of looking at all these immigrants as criminals why not make it easier for them to be in the States legally? Have them in "provisionally". Then process them without all this rancor.

If we do that without locking down the border tighter than a horses ass in fly season then it won’t work.

We can give every illegal in this country amnesty but if we don’t lock down the border we will have the same problem we have today in just a few years.

Locking down the border is a pipe dream. The cost severely outweighs the benefit. It's not going to happen...even under Trump. So be proactive. Take these people as they come and allow them temporary status. Amnesty only works for those already in the country. I say do it. Then have an avenue to what I've said above. If you don't treat these people as criminals they will be more apt to declare themselves. Problem solved. And yes I know there will be criminals that won't identify themselves. So what. Same as now BUT the mass majority will.

Does Canada have open borders?

To the States, yes. You better have your passport if you want to go home though.

Or get in, they do ID you, just so happens they recognize American issued IDs.

I wouldn't recommend trying to get in if you've had a DUI though.

Crazy we're not the only country with rules. Mind blowing really.

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
We already know what is not working, and that’s what we are doing now. How about what you think WILL work?

This was not directed at me but I have an idea. Instead of looking at all these immigrants as criminals why not make it easier for them to be in the States legally? Have them in "provisionally". Then process them without all this rancor.

If we do that without locking down the border tighter than a horses ass in fly season then it won’t work.

We can give every illegal in this country amnesty but if we don’t lock down the border we will have the same problem we have today in just a few years.

Locking down the border is a pipe dream. The cost severely outweighs the benefit. It's not going to happen...even under Trump. So be proactive. Take these people as they come and allow them temporary status. Amnesty only works for those already in the country. I say do it. Then have an avenue to what I've said above. If you don't treat these people as criminals they will be more apt to declare themselves. Problem solved. And yes I know there will be criminals that won't identify themselves. So what. Same as now BUT the mass majority will.

Does Canada have open borders?

To the States, yes. You better have your passport if you want to go home though.

so a van load of terrorists can just drive through? I thought they checked for drugs and guns and junk.

And undeclared firearms. I'm not seeing your point. Open borders doesn't mean "Come one, come all."

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: howtonhawky

Right, so the southern border states would pick up the cost for the nation, or refuse to.

Maybe that's why the Supreme Court made it a federal function.

that is a nonsensical reason to submit ones power to the feds

the supreme court ignored the constitution

i would contribute to texas border fund and help with security in trade for less income tax.

making excuses for the nwo

Yea, no. Your argument doesn't hold water. And the states still decide how many immigrants they want.

If your state wants more, here's how you get more. Have an employer hire an immigrant, they get a green card, they are legally here.

Its really that simple. No one is restricting legal immigration.

originally posted by: network dude
a reply to: olaru12

I agree. That would limit the resources for those wanting to come here for a better living.
What would you do to enforce that?

You can never stop it 100%, but if the punishment for corporations hiring illegals were actually punishments and not slaps on the wrist, then I'd imagine the number of corporations hiring illegals would drop.

Throw some execs in prison.
Stop handing out small fines.

originally posted by: olaru12
a reply to: network dude

No jobs from the corporate oligarchy, addicted to cheap labor, and the immigration problem would go away.

Elephant in the room eh?

End the war on drugs too.

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: network dude

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
We already know what is not working, and that’s what we are doing now. How about what you think WILL work?

This was not directed at me but I have an idea. Instead of looking at all these immigrants as criminals why not make it easier for them to be in the States legally? Have them in "provisionally". Then process them without all this rancor.

If we do that without locking down the border tighter than a horses ass in fly season then it won’t work.

We can give every illegal in this country amnesty but if we don’t lock down the border we will have the same problem we have today in just a few years.

Locking down the border is a pipe dream. The cost severely outweighs the benefit. It's not going to happen...even under Trump. So be proactive. Take these people as they come and allow them temporary status. Amnesty only works for those already in the country. I say do it. Then have an avenue to what I've said above. If you don't treat these people as criminals they will be more apt to declare themselves. Problem solved. And yes I know there will be criminals that won't identify themselves. So what. Same as now BUT the mass majority will.

Does Canada have open borders?

To the States, yes. You better have your passport if you want to go home though.

so a van load of terrorists can just drive through? I thought they checked for drugs and guns and junk.

And undeclared firearms. I'm not seeing your point. Open borders doesn't mean "Come one, come all."

Um..what does "open borders" mean to you?

originally posted by: CriticalStinker

originally posted by: howtonhawky

originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: howtonhawky

Right, so the southern border states would pick up the cost for the nation, or refuse to.

Maybe that's why the Supreme Court made it a federal function.

that is a nonsensical reason to submit ones power to the feds

the supreme court ignored the constitution

i would contribute to texas border fund and help with security in trade for less income tax.

making excuses for the nwo

Yea, no. Your argument doesn't hold water. And the states still decide how many immigrants they want.

If your state wants more, here's how you get more. Have an employer hire an immigrant, they get a green card, they are legally here.

Its really that simple. No one is restricting legal immigration.

ignorance is indeed restricting such

you are full of #

Since the ports of entry are closed to asylum seekers until further notice that means the feds are restricting immigration legal immigration. They do it all unconstitutionally

My goodness i implore you to direct your crap in another direction pretty please

originally posted by: dfnj2015
a reply to: Alien Abduct

We should make working in Mexico more profitable than working the US then all the illegals will leave voluntarily or not come at all.

We as in the United States? That sounds like a Mexico problem to me does it not?

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: intrepid

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
We already know what is not working, and that’s what we are doing now. How about what you think WILL work?

This was not directed at me but I have an idea. Instead of looking at all these immigrants as criminals why not make it easier for them to be in the States legally? Have them in "provisionally". Then process them without all this rancor.

If we do that without locking down the border tighter than a horses ass in fly season then it won’t work.

We can give every illegal in this country amnesty but if we don’t lock down the border we will have the same problem we have today in just a few years.

Locking down the border is a pipe dream. The cost severely outweighs the benefit. It's not going to happen...even under Trump. So be proactive. Take these people as they come and allow them temporary status. Amnesty only works for those already in the country. I say do it. Then have an avenue to what I've said above. If you don't treat these people as criminals they will be more apt to declare themselves. Problem solved. And yes I know there will be criminals that won't identify themselves. So what. Same as now BUT the mass majority will.

Dude that doesn’t solve squat. Why even have a border if we aren’t going to enforce it? There is only two ways to do the border thing, either enforce the border or don’t have a border.

Of course we can secure the border!