There's the Theory of Evolution and the Interpretation of Evolution

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: turbonium1

Neighbour. You don't seem to understand how the wordtheoryis applied in science.

Viz

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.

Please at least try to be scientifically literate when you are flinging feces at something. Otherwise you look like an uneducated primate

There are virtually countless scientific theories, and all of them are valid, you think?

You seriously believe that?


Theories don't prove anything, that's why they're called 'theories'.

Some theories are never proven, while others will be found proven, same way.


Evolution theory is not proven to exist, and suggesting it's proven is utterly absurd.

Theories are by definition a collection of facts that form a bigger fact.

A hypothesis is by definition a proposed solution that has not been tested and therefore remains unconfirmed.

A myth is by definition a collection of hypotheses, many of them tested and falsified and the rest untestable, therefore indefinitely unconfirmed. Hence "faith".

This stuff is standard curriculum.

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: turbonium1

Neighbour. You don't seem to understand how the wordtheoryis applied in science.

Viz

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.

Please at least try to be scientifically literate when you are flinging feces at something. Otherwise you look like an uneducated primate

There are virtually countless scientific theories, and all of them are valid, you think?

You seriously believe that?


Theories don't prove anything, that's why they're called 'theories'.

Some theories are never proven, while others will be found proven, same way.


Evolution theory is not proven to exist, and suggesting it's proven is utterly absurd.

Theories are by definition a collection of facts that form a bigger fact.

A hypothesis is by definition a proposed solution that has not been tested and therefore remains unconfirmed.

A myth is by definition a collection of hypotheses, many of them tested and falsified and the rest untestable, therefore indefinitely unconfirmed. Hence "faith".

This stuff is standard curriculum.

Theories can be based on facts, ideas, or suppositions, etc. A single theory can have a fact, an idea, and a supposition, all at the very same time!

By definition, a theory CANNOT be absolutely fact-based, since it's not a fact, only a theory.


Anyone can have a theory, on something. Many different theories have been on the very same thing, as well.

Evolution is a theory which is NOT based on facts, btw.

What would make you think every species has evolved from some earlier, different sort of species? And always will evolve into another species?

The evidence clearly shows it is the very opposite, actually.

Do you deny the evidence is there, and if so, what is the reason(s) for your denying it?

Prove anything which was/is created at random.

Prove anything was/is created by humans.


Compare the two cases, now...


Creation is not random, by any sort of comparison to intelligent creation....


Why do you suggest that the most complex, intricate, scientific mystery of all time, is created in a random crockpot?


Are you serious??


Do you expect some metals, rubber, etc. could become automobiles, by random chance, over millions of years, too?


Nobody has ever created life, so it was obviously done by 'random' luck, then!!


Science says so.

originally posted by: turbonium1
Why do you suggest that the most complex, intricate, scientific mystery of all time, is created in a random crockpot?

Careful now, you're setting up the argument described at 0:20:

a reply to: turbonium1

Again you are missing the point.

Scientific theories, have supporting evidence. There are screeds of pieces of evidence supporting evolution. Creation? Zip, Zero. Nada.

Stop using the word in the wrong manner. Science has a specific meaning. I have given it. If you can't get that, that is your problem not mine.

a reply to: turbonium1

No, try again. There are 1000s of papers, with easily verifiable facts out there. Further more, they include ones written by devout christians, and people of other religions e (such as I)

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: TzarChasm

originally posted by: turbonium1

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: turbonium1

Neighbour. You don't seem to understand how the wordtheoryis applied in science.

Viz

A scientific theory is a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world, based on a body of facts that have been repeatedly confirmed through observation and experiment. Such fact-supported theories are not "guesses" but reliable accounts of the real world.

Please at least try to be scientifically literate when you are flinging feces at something. Otherwise you look like an uneducated primate

There are virtually countless scientific theories, and all of them are valid, you think?

You seriously believe that?


Theories don't prove anything, that's why they're called 'theories'.

Some theories are never proven, while others will be found proven, same way.


Evolution theory is not proven to exist, and suggesting it's proven is utterly absurd.

Theories are by definition a collection of facts that form a bigger fact.

A hypothesis is by definition a proposed solution that has not been tested and therefore remains unconfirmed.

A myth is by definition a collection of hypotheses, many of them tested and falsified and the rest untestable, therefore indefinitely unconfirmed. Hence "faith".

This stuff is standard curriculum.

Theories can be based on facts, ideas, or suppositions, etc. A single theory can have a fact, an idea, and a supposition, all at the very same time!

By definition, a theory CANNOT be absolutely fact-based, since it's not a fact, only a theory.


Anyone can have a theory, on something. Many different theories have been on the very same thing, as well.

you are arguing semantics at this point. do us a favor and test the theory of gravity from a plane travelling at 30,000 ft in the air. you probably wont need a parachute, because its just a theory. maybe intelligent design will catch you.

a reply to: TzarChasm

Also we know more about evolution than gravity. So if this muppet is going to argue that "its just a theory" that jumping out of a plane is pretty safe right?

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: TzarChasm

Also we know more about evolution than gravity. So if this muppet is going to argue that "its just a theory" that jumping out of a plane is pretty safe right?

the theory of intelligent design should protect any dedicated experimenters from terminal velocity impact

take that, science

a reply to: Noinden

Well according to turbo he should have no issues just flapping his arms on the way down...

a reply to: Akragon

He will spontaneously get the ability to fly? Perhaps throw himself at the ground and miss?

a reply to: Noinden

Well he stated specifically that theres NOTHING holding us down... thats why birds can fly

gravity is just a myth

So... he should be ok

a reply to: Akragon

Sure, I see no risk whatsoever.He is a prime candidate for homeopathy too

a reply to: Noinden

not to mention the Darwin Award

a reply to: Akragon

Yeah a creationist getting one of those is rather Ironic no?

originally posted by: Noinden
a reply to: turbonium1

Again you are missing the point.

Scientific theories, have supporting evidence. There are screeds of pieces of evidence supporting evolution. Creation? Zip, Zero. Nada.

Stop using the word in the wrong manner. Science has a specific meaning. I have given it. If you can't get that, that is your problem not mine.

A scientific theory is an explanation of an aspect of the natural world that can be repeatedly tested, in accordance with the scientific method, using a predefined protocol of observation and experiment.[1][2] Established scientific theories have withstood rigorous scrutiny and embody scientific knowledge.[3]

en.wikipedia.org...

The first problem is calling evolution a "scientific theory", without actually being one....

And that is not enough to be actually a proven fact - or it would not still be called a theory, it would be called a fact!!

I'm aware that 'evolution' is called a "scientific theory", by some. It is even taught in our schools as if it were a 'science', like biology, physics, or chemistry!! It is not even a scientific theory.

Look at the definition of a 'scientific theory'....

Is evolution repeatedly tested, in accordance with the scientific method? Not a chance.

Has evolution withstood scientific scrutiny? It's never been scrutinized, for a very good reason!


It has no scientific basis, or close to it.

originally posted by: TzarChasm
you are arguing semantics at this point. do us a favor and test the theory of gravity from a plane travelling at 30,000 ft in the air. you probably wont need a parachute, because its just a theory. maybe intelligent design will catch you.

We are not pulled down, merely falling to Earth. Density. Mass.

A bird would never fly above Earth if such a force really existed.

All forces must offer resistance against any opposing force(s), in some way - that's how forces work, in the first place!

Birds would struggle to fly, against an opposing force that pulls objects down....


That's how we know if a force exists, obviously.


It is the lack of ANY RESISTANCE to opposing force(s) which proves it doesn't exist!

a reply to: turbonium1

And yet for the hundredth time... You don't consider something called "lift"

Or air pressure... which is the reason why YOU can not flap your arms and fly away

Get an education higher then fifth grade dude...

seriously...

The service troll is now on the creationism forum? Figures. This is sad.